The Scott CR1 SL Thread

indyp

meanredspider wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

mrs, you have fitted the forks?

I know this will be frowned upon, but I have to try and 'make' my 54 fit me, and as my saddle is going to be a long way up, I am thinking I am probably going to need to use spacers to give me as much height as I need at the stem.
Any idea roughly how much steerer sticks through beyond the frame?
And would I be correct in thinking the included spacers will not be sufficient on their own?

Never fitted a headset before, think I will get my lbs to do it...

Yes - though not cut the steerer yet - job for this morning. On the 52 I'm building, there's about 3" of "spare" steerer with all the spacers in place.

Fitting the headset isn't hard: fit the race forks, press/tap in the cups, an then you're pretty much done. Cutting the steerer is, I suppose, the one "risky" task. Need to be careful not to inhale the dust.

hmm maybe I could diy the headset afterall if it's just a case of push fit and doesn't require specialist tools. Oh and a vid would be a great help for us novices

jonny_trousers

Daniel B wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

mrs, you have fitted the forks?

I know this will be frowned upon, but I have to try and 'make' my 54 fit me, and as my saddle is going to be a long way up, I am thinking I am probably going to need to use spacers to give me as much height as I need at the stem.
Any idea roughly how much steerer sticks through beyond the frame?
And would I be correct in thinking the included spacers will not be sufficient on their own?

Never fitted a headset before, think I will get my lbs to do it...

Yes - though not cut the steerer yet - job for this morning. On the 52 I'm building, there's about 3" of "spare" steerer with all the spacers in place.

Fitting the headset isn't hard: fit the race forks, press/tap in the cups, an then you're pretty much done. Cutting the steerer is, I suppose, the one "risky" task. Need to be careful not to inhale the dust.

3" leaves quite a bit of room for maneouvre - thanks mrs.

Funnily enough I said those exact same words to my wife recently, when she was complaining.

dhope

Jonny_Trousers wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

3" leaves quite a bit of room for maneouvre - thanks mrs.

Funnily enough I said those exact same words to my wife recently, when she was complaining.

indyP wrote:

it's just a case of push fit and doesn't require specialist tools. Oh and a vid would be a great help for us novices

Fnar

markhewitt1978

Is the frame supplied with a bottom bracket or would I have to buy one?

turnstyle

Picked mine up from the depot today. Woo! Have to agree it's far better looking in real life than in the pics. I was just going to use it as a winter hack, but might actually get it built up properly.

I'm still quite new to cycling and I've only ever bought built up bikes before so got a few questions if anyone could answer for me...

1) I don't know much about bottom brackets - will Dura Ace 9000 be compatible with the BB91 bb?
2) Will any stem work with the headset it came with?
3) I've got a Felt F3 frame coming as a warranty claim soon. Would this frame better better/worse?
4) And probably the most important since i'll snap something if I try and build it myself - Can anyone recommend a LBS in West London who'd be able to build it up for me?

Thanks in advance and double thanks to whoever posted the link too!

Adam_G

Can anyone confirm what type of steerer bung this needs or if it comes with one?

And do we have any pictures of a built up one yet?

Ta!

Koncordski

The headset is included as is the expanding nut (bung?) and topcap with a few spacers aswell. Just add stem and bars.

luv2ride

Anyone noticed that Westbrook Cycles are now also doing the 2012 PRO frame set in black and red for the same price as the SL? Prefer the colour way of the Pro, but have ordered the SL as the more expensive frame set (so better value?). Anyone know what the main differences are between the frames? Different carbon layup and BB as far as I can make out. Is the geometry exactly the same, and would one be likely to be more comfy over rough roads than the other....?

http://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/frames ... 12-p194664

markhewitt1978

Well the Pro RRP is £1,300 as opposed to the RRP for the SL at £2,029, so should be better?

Frame and fork for the Pro is 150g heavier - not a massive amount but for the same cost, worth having?

Sharkyssurfers

well if i had the money which i do have but promised for something else i would of gone for a DI2 plasma!!

londoncommuter

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

markhewitt1978

londoncommuter wrote:

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

Aha, they had them in an hour ago .

keef66

Anyone else like me who ordered this week and still waiting to hear, I just got through to Westbrook on the phone (9th attempt!). Apparently the frames are expected from Scott tomorrow (Thurs) and will be despatched by 24h courier so should arrive Friday. Confirmatory email when despatched.

meanredspider

Well it's substantially complete - just bar tape and trimming cable and the like. Even with 105 components, RS10 wheels and touring pedals, it weighs in at 7kg near as dammit. Very good

markhewitt1978

londoncommuter wrote:

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

The CR1 Pro is still available for £499 all sizes...

Kieran_Burns

markhewitt1978 wrote:

londoncommuter wrote:

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

The CR1 Pro is still available for £499 all sizes...

It's people like you what cause unrest.

markhewitt1978

Kieran_Burns wrote:

markhewitt1978 wrote:

londoncommuter wrote:

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

The CR1 Pro is still available for £499 all sizes...

It's people like you what cause unrest.

The CR1 SL has been out of stock before so it might come back. Argh, I was planning to present the plan to the missus tonight and order tomorrow, but my plans are scuppered now. Probably just as well...

patrickf

markhewitt1978 wrote:

Kieran_Burns wrote:

markhewitt1978 wrote:

londoncommuter wrote:

Phew - they're finally out of 52cm. End of faffing about whether one of these would be any good.

The CR1 Pro is still available for £499 all sizes...

It's people like you what cause unrest.

The CR1 SL has been out of stock before so it might come back. Argh, I was planning to present the plan to the missus tonight and order tomorrow, but my plans are scuppered now. Probably just as well...

Good job too. I'm sure the mrs would have had a counter plan prepared. It's amazing how they always have other things they'd love to spend our bike fund on.

Don't advertise that there's spare money around

willy b

Is it a race to see who can build theirs up first? The winner gets 1 internet point.

Not that I even have one btw.

patrickf

Me neither. Interlink appear to be unable to find my delivery address. "Apparently" it's out again today but tracking hasn't updated at all so I'm guessing they've fobbed me off and haven't sent it out at all.

markhewitt1978

Argh I hate these short term sales things . You can't usually just jump into a purchase like this, but I know what will happen, a year down the line I'll end up buying a new bike anyway for full price, then a week later this offer will pop up again,argh

indyp

The thing-a-majig (lower race?) that's supposed to sit flatly on forks is about 1cm away from resting point so it'll have to be bashed on with proper tools by LBS after all

daniel_b

samsbike wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Daniel B wrote:

mrs, you have fitted the forks?

I know this will be frowned upon, but I have to try and 'make' my 54 fit me, and as my saddle is going to be a long way up, I am thinking I am probably going to need to use spacers to give me as much height as I need at the stem.
Any idea roughly how much steerer sticks through beyond the frame?
And would I be correct in thinking the included spacers will not be sufficient on their own?

Never fitted a headset before, think I will get my lbs to do it...

Yes - though not cut the steerer yet - job for this morning. On the 52 I'm building, there's about 3" of "spare" steerer with all the spacers in place.

Fitting the headset isn't hard: fit the race forks, press/tap in the cups, an then you're pretty much done. Cutting the steerer is, I suppose, the one "risky" task. Need to be careful not to inhale the dust.

3" leaves quite a bit of room for maneouvre - thanks mrs.

I would urge caution here. I think that with a carbon steerer you should only have around 5cm of stack above the headset. I realise the steerer is uncut (I have not received mine yet) therefore you will have some excess steerer. I dont think you can run the max steerer and a stem, although I am happy to be corrected.

Thanks Sam, anyone else comment on this?
I realise there are other ways to lift the bars such as flipping the stem, but would still be useful to know.
My Marin highway 1 that a previous owner converted to drop bars has a whole host of spacers, I would estimate probably 3" worth, and it has carbon forks- does carbon forks always mean carbon steerer, i'm assuming so....

patrickf

Daniel B wrote:

[does carbon forks always mean carbon steerer, i'm assuming so....

A lot of carbon forks have alloy steerers. My Trek 1.5 has CF forks with an alloy steerer.

londoncommuter

Don't know about Scott but Cervelo have a maximum amount of spacers:

WARNING: A maximum of 35 mm of spacers may be used
below the stem with any Cervélo fork. This is in addition to the
upper bearing ‘volcano cone’ cover which can measure up to
15 mm tall. Do not exceed 50 mm maximum total spacer height.

See page 4 of the attached (rather handy guide to cutting your steerer):

http://www.cervelo.com/media/docs/Cerve ... c091-0.pdf

dhope

Interesting... Flubit have come back with £485 for the CR1 SL.
In 56cm... so, that's intriguing...

pollys_bott

meanredspider wrote:

Fitting the headset isn't hard: fit the race forks, press/tap in the cups, an then you're pretty much done. Cutting the steerer is, I suppose, the one "risky" task. Need to be careful not to inhale the dust.

OK, I'm working nights so am sleep-deprived and not really with it; but I shouldn't have two different sized bearing races should I? I've got one sized 41 x 30.15 which fits nicely inside the cups, and one sized 46 x 34.1 which doesn't. Surely I should have two of the smaller ones??

meanredspider

Tah-dah!

spasypaddy

i really want one

indyp

Pollys Bott wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Fitting the headset isn't hard: fit the race forks, press/tap in the cups, an then you're pretty much done. Cutting the steerer is, I suppose, the one "risky" task. Need to be careful not to inhale the dust.

OK, I'm working nights so am sleep-deprived and not really with it; but I shouldn't have two different sized bearing races should I? I've got one sized 41 x 30.15 which fits nicely inside the cups, and one sized 46 x 34.1 which doesn't. Surely I should have two of the smaller ones??

The smaller one is the lower race, but there should be two of the larger cups one for each side of the headset (I think!).