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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    plectrum wrote:
    As for Wiggins - the end is nigh - he's 33 and i'm not sure he can win anything of note going forward. I don't know when his contract is up but I can't see it being renewed in a team leader guise.
    End of this season, I believe – unless he's already secretly signed an extension. So, that would give him 2 main chances to prove he is worth another big contract.
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  • plectrum
    plectrum Posts: 225
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    plectrum wrote:
    As for Wiggins - the end is nigh - he's 33 and i'm not sure he can win anything of note going forward. I don't know when his contract is up but I can't see it being renewed in a team leader guise.
    End of this season, I believe – unless he's already secretly signed an extension. So, that would give him 2 main chances to prove he is worth another big contract.

    Interesting as he would be a very useful team rider - essential in TTT, great as a sprint lead out and one of the best at setting a brutal pace.
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.

    looking for the positive, he could in a later stage do what happened today & romp away late in a planned move for the stage win after help out Wiggins/Uran
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    edited May 2013
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    plectrum wrote:
    As for Wiggins - the end is nigh - he's 33 and i'm not sure he can win anything of note going forward. I don't know when his contract is up but I can't see it being renewed in a team leader guise.
    End of this season, I believe – unless he's already secretly signed an extension. So, that would give him 2 main chances to prove he is worth another big contract.


    I think his contract was renegotiated after the Tour win. But tbh I suspect it will be Wiggins decision rather than Sky's re how long he ends up staying i.e. when he retires. Let's not forget that at the moment he's their only GT winner, and still their most prolific stage race winner.

    And this Giro podium is not yet settled, however strong Nibz and Evans look at the moment (or Uran's ride today)
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.

    looking for the positive, he could in a later stage do what happened today & romp away late in a planned move for the stage win after help out Wiggins/Uran


    Absolutely.
  • Paul 8v
    Paul 8v Posts: 5,458
    Doobz wrote:
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    I nearly wet myself when I saw that, and then I felt bad that he might have rolled a couple of hundred metres down the mountain!

    Although my flat screen is bloody heavy I was just about ready to throw it out the window if that prat says "Where is Wiggins" again, he just says it over and over again, the two of them even had a moment counting riders, sounded like it was broadcast from a home for dementia...

    I think that is it for Wiggins now possibly, he seemed to remember how to descend but for hot how to climb, I was hoping he would come back and smash it today but skys plan of tiring out Nibali seems to have backfired spectacularly
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  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.

    looking for the positive, he could in a later stage do what happened today & romp away late in a planned move for the stage win after help out Wiggins/Uran


    Absolutely.

    Quick question & slightly tongue in cheek but could they not do this on a few days? That would really get spice things up, just send a strong rider who is down on GC up the road for the win & limit your GC guys losses too. I know a little dream but it would certainly be proper entertainment.
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.

    looking for the positive, he could in a later stage do what happened today & romp away late in a planned move for the stage win after help out Wiggins/Uran


    Absolutely.

    Quick question & slightly tongue in cheek but could they not do this on a few days? That would really get spice things up, just send a strong rider who is down on GC up the road for the win & limit your GC guys losses too. I know a little dream but it would certainly be proper entertainment.


    Not sure I understand how that's different from what we're saying? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
  • danlikesbikes
    danlikesbikes Posts: 3,898
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Danlikesbikes wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Shame for Henao losing time. Still fancy him for a stage win though.

    looking for the positive, he could in a later stage do what happened today & romp away late in a planned move for the stage win after help out Wiggins/Uran


    Absolutely.

    Quick question & slightly tongue in cheek but could they not do this on a few days? That would really get spice things up, just send a strong rider who is down on GC up the road for the win & limit your GC guys losses too. I know a little dream but it would certainly be proper entertainment.


    Not sure I understand how that's different from what we're saying? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

    Sorry just re-read my post DOH not quite what I meant - can we not suggest that tomorrow they send Henao up the road for the stage win. Then on a later stage another rider from the team goes up the road etc, etc
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Paul 8v wrote:
    I think that is it for Wiggins now possibly, he seemed to remember how to descend but for hot how to climb, I was hoping he would come back and smash it today but skys plan of tiring out Nibali seems to have backfired spectacularly
    The only hope now for Wiggins is that he proves stronger over the long game and does not weaken as much as the other GC riders in the end stages.

    Can't see past Nibs though now to be honest.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    It is brilliant reading this rubbish when you have nt seen the stage because you were out cycling.

    Man, If only the world really did only contain Black and White and a bike rider could only be the best rider ever ever or the devil incarnate/total fail

    To sum up, Nibs in on the same Stormer this Tour that Wiggo was on in the summer of 2012. Well ridden Nibali, well ridden Evans, well ridden Uran - That is all
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ddraver wrote:
    It is brilliant reading this rubbish when you have nt seen the stage because you were out cycling.

    Man, If only the world really did only contain Black and White and a bike rider could only be the best rider ever ever or the devil incarnate/total fail

    To sum up, Nibs in on the same Stormer this Tour that Wiggo was on in the summer of 2012. Well ridden Nibali, well ridden Evans, well ridden Uran - That is all


    That's about the sum of it. Nibz has the look this season (T-A, Trentino, here) of Wiggo last year.
  • Squaggles
    Squaggles Posts: 875
    I think Ryder might struggle to win the Giro again this year now , I know I'm going out on a limb there
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  • PeteinSQ
    PeteinSQ Posts: 2,292
    I felt it was the steepness of today's climbs that did for Wiggins more than anything else. He just doesn't seemed well suited to the efforts required on climbs that are quite a bit steeper than anything you typically find in the TdF. I think he'll do a good TT when the next one comes around but then Nibali has already demonstrated that he has worked them out.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    To be honest Sky may have done themselves a disservice today. Wiggins lost time to the main people that matter even if he took some time out of people who are outside bets. Uran took a small amount out of the people that count which is good but Uran is not a GT winner even in his prime. Henao was a good bet but has had to sacrifice for Wiggins then today if Sky's payroll hadnt ridden for 55km Henao would have had fresher legs and would still be in reasonable contention. I doubt Nibali would have put Astana on the front to bring back Rodriguez and so we would have had it slower until someway up the final climb. Oh well, thank goodness the Giro is not a route like the Tour.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Cracker of a stage. Loved it.

    David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 3h
    Overall I would say good day for Wiggins, a finish like that taxes him but when he was dropped he rode well to limit losses. Long way to go.

    What was that about embedded journalists losing credibility?
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    frenchfighter wrote:
    To be honest Sky may have done themselves a disservice today. Wiggins lost time to the main people that matter even if he took some time out of people who are outside bets. Uran took a small amount out of the people that count which is good but Uran is not a GT winner even in his prime. Henao was a good bet but has had to sacrifice for Wiggins then today if Sky's payroll hadnt ridden for 55km Henao would have had fresher legs and would still be in reasonable contention. I doubt Nibali would have put Astana on the front to bring back Rodriguez and so we would have had it slower until someway up the final climb. Oh well, thank goodness the Giro is not a route like the Tour.

    The result of Sky's move today was to isolate their own leader.

    But, sometimes you have to roll the dice...
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  • Richmond Racer
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    TailWindHome wrote:
    Cracker of a stage. Loved it.

    David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 3h
    Overall I would say good day for Wiggins, a finish like that taxes him but when he was dropped he rode well to limit losses. Long way to go.

    What was that about embedded journalists losing credibility?



    The team and Wiggins expected him to lose time today, according to a journo or two Wiggins spoke to before the stage, according to trusty Twitter. In Walsh's defence as an embedded journo, he seems privy to the team tactics each day - hence some of his tweets.

    And colour me surprised...Wiggins gave a pretty relaxed post stage interview
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-w ... osing-time
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Cracker of a stage. Loved it.

    David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 3h
    Overall I would say good day for Wiggins, a finish like that taxes him but when he was dropped he rode well to limit losses. Long way to go.

    What was that about embedded journalists losing credibility?



    The team and Wiggins expected him to lose time today, according to a journo or two Wiggins spoke to before the stage, according to trusty Twitter. In Walsh's defence as an embedded journo, he seems privy to the team tactics each day - hence some of his tweets.

    And colour me surprised...Wiggins gave a pretty relaxed post stage interview
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-w ... osing-time


    He was behind and now is further behind. That can't be considered a good day. For Walsh to suggest so seems silly.



    Here's a question. If he/Sky expected to lose time, why did Uran attack?
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  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    Spotted this on Facebook and seems the Tour of California has got the POLAR opposite problem at the moment. :shock:

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    plectrum wrote:
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    plectrum wrote:
    As for Wiggins - the end is nigh - he's 33 and i'm not sure he can win anything of note going forward. I don't know when his contract is up but I can't see it being renewed in a team leader guise.
    End of this season, I believe – unless he's already secretly signed an extension. So, that would give him 2 main chances to prove he is worth another big contract.

    Interesting as he would be a very useful team rider - essential in TTT, great as a sprint lead out and one of the best at setting a brutal pace.

    WTF? This is the person who won the biggest bike race in world last season together with an unprecedented series of wins in the biggest one week stage races and you are suggesting his team won't renew his contract unless it is in the role of super domestique and lead out man to the team's world class sprinter. You have to be trolling, if not I'm worried about your sanity!
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Cracker of a stage. Loved it.

    David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 3h
    Overall I would say good day for Wiggins, a finish like that taxes him but when he was dropped he rode well to limit losses. Long way to go.

    What was that about embedded journalists losing credibility?



    The team and Wiggins expected him to lose time today, according to a journo or two Wiggins spoke to before the stage, according to trusty Twitter. In Walsh's defence as an embedded journo, he seems privy to the team tactics each day - hence some of his tweets.

    And colour me surprised...Wiggins gave a pretty relaxed post stage interview
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-w ... osing-time


    He was behind and now is further behind. That can't be considered a good day. For Walsh to suggest so seems silly.



    Here's a question. If he/Sky expected to lose time, why did Uran attack?


    Hoping to wear out whoever Nibz had with him, and forcing him to chase himself and be worn out in turn, presumably?
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Cracker of a stage. Loved it.

    David Walsh ‏@DavidWalshST 3h
    Overall I would say good day for Wiggins, a finish like that taxes him but when he was dropped he rode well to limit losses. Long way to go.

    What was that about embedded journalists losing credibility?



    The team and Wiggins expected him to lose time today, according to a journo or two Wiggins spoke to before the stage, according to trusty Twitter. In Walsh's defence as an embedded journo, he seems privy to the team tactics each day - hence some of his tweets.

    And colour me surprised...Wiggins gave a pretty relaxed post stage interview
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/video-w ... osing-time


    He was behind and now is further behind. That can't be considered a good day. For Walsh to suggest so seems silly.



    Here's a question. If he/Sky expected to lose time, why did Uran attack?


    Hoping to wear out whoever Nibz had with him, and forcing him to chase himself and be worn out in turn, presumably?


    Well it worked - shame it was Wiggins.... :wink:
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Indeed, TWH, indeed

    Wiggo, Nibbles...easy to confuse... :)
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Pross wrote:
    plectrum wrote:
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    plectrum wrote:
    As for Wiggins - the end is nigh - he's 33 and i'm not sure he can win anything of note going forward. I don't know when his contract is up but I can't see it being renewed in a team leader guise.
    End of this season, I believe – unless he's already secretly signed an extension. So, that would give him 2 main chances to prove he is worth another big contract.

    Interesting as he would be a very useful team rider - essential in TTT, great as a sprint lead out and one of the best at setting a brutal pace.

    WTF? This is the person who won the biggest bike race in world last season together with an unprecedented series of wins in the biggest one week stage races and you are suggesting his team won't renew his contract unless it is in the role of super domestique and lead out man to the team's world class sprinter. You have to be trolling, if not I'm worried about your sanity!



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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    plectrum wrote:
    The VS ride was impressive but a real one off, the Ryder win was meaningless in the grand scheme of GTS (alot like Wiggins 2012 is fairly meaningless long term) - so they are left with Talansky and Martin... I'm not really sure what Talansky's future is but I can't really see him becoming a GC contendor and so you are left with Martin.
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    This reads like a pastiche of the 'what have the Romans ever done for us' bit out of Life of Brian. Congratulations.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,462
    Are people forgetting that the whole point of a GT is that it is about recovery and the ability to be consistent over 3 weeks? 2 minutes isn't really a big margin at all in GT terms. One bad day in the mountains can cost 5 minutes or more (just look at Ryder today, no one would have expected that last week). Obviously Wiggins would have hoped to be much closer if not leading at this stage but there is still a lot of opportunity for Nibs or Cadel to have their bad days. I think people seem to have forgotten it wasn't always the case that a rider took the lead on the first TT or MTF and held it until the end.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ooh, forget to say felicitaciones to Uran Uran and Betancur...

    (though Betancur might be getting a tad hacked off with 2nd place by now :wink: )

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