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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/the-s ... er-season/

    Haven't time to read it properly but at first glance it doesn't seem like the same person.

    Reads more like a list of rumours we already know with some swearing for colour and authenticity
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/the-secret-pro-transfer-season/

    Haven't time to read it properly but at first glance it doesn't seem like the same person.

    Reads more like a list of rumours we already know with some swearing for colour and authenticity

    Not sure if it's someone else, but word on the street is that Qhubeka announced most of the stuff he's reporting as rumors about them bloody ages ago.
    Cervelo and Brian Smith were news a month ago.
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  • DL1987
    DL1987 Posts: 204
    Interesting to hear his thoughts on JTL. I'm sure there's someone somewhere who'll take the Froome on the hunt for blood comment literally too.
  • Not much actual insight this time, as you say, just a lot of rumours already out there presented as fact.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    The EBH Alonso rumour might explain the Oleg rant though. Sounds like the team might be ready to roll and EBH ditch Tinkoff for a place on that squad instead.

    Nice to see a pro sharing an opinion of Sagan that many of us suspected i.e. incredibly strong but no race brain.
  • mr_poll
    mr_poll Posts: 1,547
    Any more thoughts on who it might be - more hints, raced in the tour and had an off in the first few days (then again as did most) - Was it Gerrans that Cav brought down?
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    mr_poll wrote:
    Any more thoughts on who it might be - more hints, raced in the tour and had an off in the first few days (then again as did most) - Was it Gerrans that Cav brought down?
    Yes, but Gerrans withdrew before the end which isn't mentioned there. It'd be trivial to throw in comments like that to mislead people about the actual identity of this person though, I wouldn't rely on them too much to narrow things down.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    He also suggests he got taken out by the over-enthusiastic supporters rather than another rider. Bound to be chucking some bluffs in there if he's genuine. I've got suspicions it is a journalist who is passing on the bits they hear by pretending to be in the peloton.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Pross wrote:
    The EBH Alonso rumour might explain the Oleg rant though. Sounds like the team might be ready to roll and EBH ditch Tinkoff for a place on that squad instead.

    Nice to see a pro sharing an opinion of Sagan that many of us suspected i.e. incredibly strong but no race brain.

    He also says Riis is a master tactitian which I have been saying for years.

    His comments about Sagan are a bit much. Probably just jealous or uneducated so cannot express his thoughts without abusing Sagan and calling his DS a moron. Probably an aussie.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I don't think he was abusing Sagan so much, more like he was saying that he's such a good rider he should win more big races but that his tactics let him down. Presumably the tactics are dictated by the DS especially in the big races with race radio so either he is ignoring what he is told or the DS isn't giving very good advice. Given how poor Canondale have been I suspect it is the latter combined with possibly a bit too much confidence / eagerness in Sagan. He needs to be prepared to lose in order to win whereas he just wants to go all out for the win and ends up working himself out of contention.
  • SCR Pedro
    SCR Pedro Posts: 912
    It's a bit sensationalist, isn't it? There is little content that any observer of pro cycling wouldn't already know or suspect. It may be the case that cyclingtips are just so concerned with covering their asses, that anything of substance is edited out.
    I also agree that calling Sagan a dumbass is OTT. In the TdF, he tried everything to get a stage victory, late attacks, breaks, sprints, etc. It just happened to be that he was marked throughout the three weeks.
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  • SCR Pedro wrote:
    It's a bit sensationalist, isn't it? There is little content that any observer of pro cycling wouldn't already know or suspect. It may be the case that cyclingtips are just so concerned with covering their asses, that anything of substance is edited out.
    I also agree that calling Sagan a dumbass is OTT. In the TdF, he tried everything to get a stage victory, late attacks, breaks, sprints, etc. It just happened to be that he was marked throughout the three weeks.
    I felt he was almost showing off going up Jenkin Road - as if he felt that stage was in the bag.

    For someone who is expected to win, he's usually very visible before the finale - so I'd agree with the secret pro (and many others)
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    He may not have won a stage in the Tour but he sure as hell looked mightily impressive, dumbass or not. If all he is missing is tactics then au revoir everyone else.

    Going to TSB is not a bad move for him at all, a much stronger supporting cast. He's hardly going to be fighting for the same stages as Contador.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    The comment that Sagan's radio was just relaying "Metallica at 11" says the same but better.


    Interesting Oleg is slagging of EBH. He made a couple of swipes at Sagan before that signing was confirmed.

    He really doesn't give a f***
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  • johnboy183
    johnboy183 Posts: 832
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/the-secret-pro-transfer-season/

    Haven't time to read it properly but at first glance it doesn't seem like the same person.

    Reads more like a list of rumours we already know with some swearing for colour and authenticity

    Link not working today & can't find it directly on site.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    johnboy183 wrote:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/the-secret-pro-transfer-season/

    Haven't time to read it properly but at first glance it doesn't seem like the same person.

    Reads more like a list of rumours we already know with some swearing for colour and authenticity

    Link not working today & can't find it directly on site.
    That's interesting... wonder if it's just a technical issue or if something in there provoked a takedown request!

    Anyway here's the Google cached version
  • johnboy183
    johnboy183 Posts: 832
    Thanks
  • Sjaak
    Sjaak Posts: 99
    Link: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/08/the-s ... er-season/

    The Secret Pro – transfer season by The Secret Pro - August 18, 2014

    It's been a while since we've heard from The Secret Pro but he's found some time to put pen to paper after the Tour de France. In this issue, he talks about the transfer season, team rumours, and other candid thoughts about the pro peloton.



    It’s been quite a while between drinks, but I’ve found some time to put another piece together, giving you the scoop on what’s happening inside the professional peloton.

    The Tour de France went okay for me except for a crash in the first week that gave me a niggling injury for the next two weeks. The crowds in Yorkshire were incredible, but a little too enthusiastic at times which made things dangerous, as I found out. But compared with the north of France where the crowds were thin and blasé, and where it pissed rain for days on end, I can’t complain.

    Now that we’re into the second half of the year, all the riders are talking about transfers and who’s going where. For a start it looks like Theo Bos is going to MTN-Qhubeka. The word on the street is that the team is bolstering its squad and that Brian Smith (who used to run Cervelo Test Team) is coming on board and has brought on Cervelo to the team next season. Expect big things from MTN-Qhubeka and don’t be surprised to see them at the TdF next season and at WorldTour level in 2016. They’ve also signed some other big name riders who you’ll hear about shortly.

    Fernando Alonso’s team has been very flakey all year but then out of the blue there’s been some activity. At this point it’s impossible that Alonso will make his own team from scratch. Realistically the only possibility is that they’ll take over Cannondale’s license. I’ve heard that all the riders under contract and the Cannondale bike sponsorship will go to Garmin, then the infrastructure (license, trucks, service course, etc) would go to Alonso (if he pulls it off). CSG (Cannondale Sports Group) in the US has taken over the WorldTour license from the Italian management company, so the whole thing’s a little convoluted to me.

    Alonso wants to put this team together but apparently his manager and his father think it’ll take his eye off the ball with his F1 driving. The gossip is that all he’s really done is put his name to the project and lined up a couple Middle Eastern investors. They said they’d put in a percentage of the money but the whole project went pear-shaped when it came out that all Alonso wanted to do was to put his name beside it. He’s making out that he’s the saviour of cycling, but he’s not actually putting a penny into the project.

    Nobody that I’ve heard of has signed with this Alonso team, but it’s always a chicken and egg scenario. They need the license first. The only way I could see them getting a license is if they took over Cannondale’s WorldTour license, but they’d still need to meet the requirements for the bank guarantee. I’m sure they’d get a time extension after the deadlines to meet the requirements and have a certain number of riders signed.

    News came out last week that Edvald Boasson Hagen is leaving Sky and from what I hear he’s in talks with Alonso. But then it’s also rumoured that he’s signed with Tinkoff-Saxo. This would be a good move for him, but from what I know Tinkoff-Saxo is already full up, so I can’t see it happening. One thing I do know is that Ivan Basso is definitely going to Tinkoff-Saxo.

    Speaking of Tinkoff-Saxo, Oleg Tinkoff isn’t always as crazy as he makes himself sound on Twitter (well, aside from his weekend escapades). I’ve met him before and yeah he’s eccentric, but he’s obviously quite a smart guy. What sets him apart is that he simply doesn’t give a sh*t what anyone thinks about him.

    Peter Sagan would be far better off being on a team that’s solely based around him, rather than joining Tinkoff-Saxo and having to share the limelight with Alberto Contador. But having said that, nobody would pay as much as Tinkov would.

    Let’s face it though: Sagan isn’t a master tactician. He’s a bit of a dumb-ass. But now he’ll have Bjarne Riis in his ear telling him what to do. Whoever has been shouting race tactics at him so far is a bit of a moron. Sagan’s just so strong that he’s able to win anyway. Riis is one of the best tacticians going around, so it’ll be a good move for him.

    This whole Rohan Dennis mid-season transfer situation is bizarre. Dennis has a bit of a reputation for being pretty volatile — when things aren’t going his way he’s known to tell everyone to go and get f***ed.

    I reckon what probably happened with the transfer was that he wasn’t getting along with people at Garmin-Sharp, and because he had a contract with BMC next year anyway, Vaughters was happy for him to go so he didn’t have to pay him for four months. JV has a reputation for being a tight-ass with his money.

    It’s been interesting watching the Roman Kreuziger case unfold. The whole thing stinks if you ask me. If he had done something wrong years ago, why didn’t they stop him then? Oleg Tinkov has a very good point — the UCI should have told Tinkoff-Saxo that Kreuziger was under suspicion before they signed him. It’s unbelievable. If Tinkov is paying Kreuziger all this money, the UCI should compensate him. I don’t know if Kreuziger has been doing anything dodgy or not, but I’ve seen many instances where the bio-passport system got it wrong.

    One case that the biological passport did get right was Jonathan Tiernan-Locke. When he popped back into the scene I just took one look at the way he was riding and I knew 100% that he was loaded up to the eyeballs. He had basically been off the bike for five years and had a reputation for bouncing off the walls of the nightclubs during that time.

    Then he comes back on a sh*thouse team and is riding off the front against the best riders in the world, and putting minutes into them. Had he ever done that before? I didn’t need to look at any bio passport when he came back — I just knew because of the way he was annihilating everyone else in the races that he was up to his eyeballs on EPO.

    Nobody at this year’s Tour stood out to me like that. I think you can safely say that the majority of peloton is clean now. There are always grey areas and people will try to push the limits, but I don’t think anyone can get away with flat out cheating anymore. Even Nibali winning by eight minutes — if Contador and Froome were there it would have been a battle of seconds. That’s not to take anything away from Nibali — he was super impressive, particularly on the cobbles of stage 5 when he rode away from Sagan and Cancellara.

    Of course the Vuelta isn’t far away now and with the way Chris Horner is riding now, I think he will definitely be on the podium. But Froome is out training like a madman and is looking for blood. I didn’t think Contador would start, but last week he announced that he is. Glad I’m not racing the Vuelta – it’s going to be a stronger line-up than the TdF!

    It’s a nervous time for many riders including myself during this stressful contract period. I am planning on racing straight through until the end-of-season Classics and giving it everything I’ve got to make sure I get a good deal for 2015!

    Until next time,

    The Secret Pro
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    A big dig at Astana and digs at Bertie and Rogers too.

    A great piece. With this, Kennaugh, Henderson, Panzer and others coming out recently it shows there is some hope.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    I'm more convinced that it's written by one or more journalists.
    The gossip they can't write in column.
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  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    Whoever it is doesn't love Garmin/Vaughters - had a dig at Vaughters being tight with money re the Rohan Dennis transfer, now Steele Van Hoff.

    I guess it is an Australian site so this blog is aimed at their readers
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    The Secret Pro nuts nutter Bouhanni.
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  • Interesting read that one.

    Will keep a closer eye on Ramunas Navardauskas now. When he won that stage last year it was pretty damn impressive.

    Also surprised to see him say some riders fear Oleg Tinkoff.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    No shock here about Bouhanni
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Also surprised to see him say some riders fear Oleg Tinkoff.

    Have you ever worked with Russians who have a lot of money?

    Terrifying.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    sjmclean wrote:
    No shock here about Bouhanni

    Amen to that.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784

    Also surprised to see him say some riders fear Oleg Tinkoff.

    Having heard what Tyler Hamilton had to say about him, I'm not surprised at all.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Next installement is out:
    http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/05/the-s ... -and-more/

    It is not very good.
    He is a big fan of Greg Henderson and a hater on Astana.
    He doesn't mention Alaphilippe.
    The only interesting thing is that he says Stefan Kung is '...is pure class. You sit behind him on a bike and he looks as though he is made for cycling; a true athlete'
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