Puerto trial

Richmond Racer

Quotes are TH's words:

"The biggest thing was performing the transfusions; also EPO, testosterone, other doping products from him"

"He would offer them (doping products) to me ... EPO, testosterone, HGH, insulin - that's it." (counting off products on his fingers)

"First (transfusion) one was March 2002" - WADA asks if Fuentes warned him of the risks, with written consent: "I didn't sign anything"

WADA asks if Fuentes gave him a medical exam to check his health before transfusions: "I believe he checked my hematocrit"

"The first was just one (blood bag). When asked if they extracted more than one bag at a time, he replies, "Uh, yeah"

Asks how many times he met Fuentes during 3-yr span: "Probably 15 times"

"I didn't take much of the growth hormones" that he prescribed

On effects of doping: "Insulin I tried one time and I did not like the way I felt, sweating, increasing heart rate, strange sensation"

"I had transfusion in July 2004 that gave me a bad fever and felt sick"

Transfusions were conducted in "apartments, hotel rooms" - two apartments in Madrid; 1 in Monaco; "many, many hotel rooms"

Blood was transported in a "portable cooler," in Madrid lab "they would check your hematocrit, or if you asked, they would do an analysis"

Always Fuentes for transfusions? "No" "Merino*, cannot remember the name of the mountain biker who passed away" (Alberto Leon) - confirms


(*Fuentes senile assistant)

WADA confirms if Leon carried out infusion: "He reinfused" - believe in "2002 during Tour de France" - Leon had no medical training

Confirms no doctor was present when Leon conducted the reinfusions: "no" - WADA asking Hamilton to clarify Fuentes, Merino, Leon

Richmond Racer

After transfusion: "You'd always feel a little different; no two times were alike; you body would always react to extraction or infusion"

Felt bad: "Worst reaction was 2004 TdF, a reinfusion, as far as I could tell, all the blood had been destroyed, it was not properly handled"

Andrew Hood ‏@EuroHoody
"Reason I knew that, 30-45mins later, my urine was black"

Confirms he paid for Fuentes' services himself: "around 25-30K euros per year, extra for the drugs - that was separate"

"In 2004, it was more, it was 50K, because of the new freezer, which we called 'Siberia'"

Hamilton said "me and other cyclists" had to help pay for the "new freezer" called "Siberia," mentioned "3 or 4" would help pay for freezer*

"As far as I knew, (Fuentes) worked with six or seven other cyclists" - "I paid in cash"



*Fuentes, the cheeky barsteward! (RR's words)

Richmond Racer

Hamilton v relaxed. Hair still looks like a bag of spanners though

*tuts disapprovingly*

LutherB

Great stuff RR & Sean Penn to play him in the movie

Doobz

Manolo Saiz' lawyer just revealed that they won't call Alberto Contador to testify after all

frenchfighter

And the Spanish police can't find Angel Vicioso.

Macaloon

LutherB wrote:

Great stuff RR & Sean Penn to play him in the movie

Richmond Racer

Curses....meetings just got in the way of decent trial monitoring and updating....

So...before I catch up on wot I missed...it seems that Hamilton signed off with a 'sorry I broke the rules' and a wave at the camera to everyone

:shock: :shock:

I swear, you couldnt make this stuff up

Richmond Racer

Re Vicioso going AWOL, 'The judge added that if the rider did not make himself available voluntarily that she would send security forces to bring him to court'

In other words, he's gone on a long solo breakaway

Garry H

Richmond Racer wrote:

Re Vicioso going AWOL, 'The judge added that if the rider did not make himself available voluntarily that she would send security forces to bring him to court'

In other words, he's going on a long solo breakaway

FTFY

bipedal

Seems like bertie knows a lost cause when he sees one...

jerry3571

Richmond Racer wrote:

Re Vicioso going AWOL, 'The judge added that if the rider did not make himself available voluntarily that she would send security forces to bring him to court'

In other words, he's gone on a long solo breakaway

Mr Vicious going AWOL!!!!

pat1cp

Who's up today ?.?.

Richmond Racer

pat1cp wrote:

Who's up today ?.?.

Hang on, Puerto Watch needs to down another coffee and a Pret brekker baguette before clocking on....

Richmond Racer

Right, firstly I think the peloton might have pulled back the breakaway Angel...just trying to confirm

Yday Hamilton named some ex-Phonak teammates incl Sevilla, Santiago Pérez, Enrique Gutiérrez, and ex-director Alvaro Pino, as companions on a trip to a Madrid hotel for transfusions by Fuentes and his merry band. Significant because it confirms strong links between Phonak and Fuentes (Andy Rhis? Hello?)

Macaloon

Richmond Racer wrote:

Hang on, Puerto Watch needs to down another coffee and a Pret brekker baguette before clocking on....

Let's go to work, RR.

ratsbeyfus

Macaloon wrote:

Richmond Racer wrote:

Hang on, Puerto Watch needs to down another coffee and a Pret brekker baguette before clocking on....

Let's go to work, RR.

Where are you getting the info from RR? Is the trial on the red button? Are you on the jury? Are you making it up? Why is Contador not needed any more? Answers on my desk please by lunchtime. Thanks.

Richmond Racer

I am the Judge and I will decide things on Twitter - after all, isnt that how all judgements are reached these days?

So...my interpretation of the Contador change is that the canary fancier's being protected from having to testify under oath and perjure himself in responding to particularly pesky questions

ratsbeyfus

Canary fancier eh? Someone better break the news gently to his girlfriend... she's gonna be clicking mad!

frenchfighter

I would prefer if Contador went in and said something. But then there is nothing he can say with regard Fuentes as he never worked with him. Not one person has yet said anything linking Contador.

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

inkyfingers

frenchfighter wrote:

I would prefer if Contador went in and said something. But then there is nothing he can say with regard Fuentes as he never worked with him. Not one person has yet said anything linking Contador.

Maybe not in this court case.

Richmond Racer

It seems that Katusha have suspended the Fallen Angel for failing to turn up yday

http://en.rsport.ru/other_sports/201302 ... 30086.html


“This really discredits our image."

Says Ekimov aka Rider XX of USADA report fame.

pat1cp

frenchfighter wrote:

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

Why's that ? Do you remember him racing ?

I would have thought he'd have ticked most of your boxes.

inkyfingers

pat1cp wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

Why's that ? Do you remember him racing ?

I would have thought he'd have ticked most of your boxes.

1. He's american
3. The more focus there is on Puerto, the more likely Bertie will get dragged back into it.

Richmond Racer

Boom!

pat1cp

inkyfingers wrote:

pat1cp wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

Why's that ? Do you remember him racing ?

I would have thought he'd have ticked most of your boxes.

1. He's american
3. The more focus there is on Puerto, the more likely Bertie will get dragged back into it.

OK, apart from that one.

jerry3571

pat1cp wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

Why's that ? Do you remember him racing ?

I would have thought he'd have ticked most of your boxes.

I'm surprised too. I thought that riding the Tour with a broken arm and wearing his teeth down through the pain was right up FF's street??



Maybe it's Tyler's haircut??


Maybe FF has seen this photo, nasty skinny! :shock:


I did remember an interview with him before he got caught for Naughties where he said Doping didn't seem that dangerous when you're hammering down a Mountain at 70mph. I thought that was pretty honest and maybe gave a small insight in to how things are seen inside Cycling. He also had a nice looking Wife and a nice Dog and lived in Girona which is a nice town. Hell, I like the man!

See, even Chuck Norris agrees!

bipedal

inkyfingers wrote:

pat1cp wrote:

frenchfighter wrote:

Hamilton. I do not like this chap.

Why's that ? Do you remember him racing ?

I would have thought he'd have ticked most of your boxes.

1. He's american
3. The more focus there is on Puerto, the more likely Bertie will get dragged back into it.

3. tyler broke the omertà (unlike FF's boy crushes)

jerry3571

I must admit, I don't mind the riders who have confessed; Miller, Jackshe, Hamilton. The riders who annoy me are the riders who deny any wrong doing when caught, then come back and carry on the same thinking we have forgotten they doped- Basso, AC, Valv, Vino. They seem to think that if they carry on regardless then the illusion still remains.
It's a bit like watching a Magician after you know how the trick is done.

It does amuse me that something must of changed in the testing which means that Basso can't do what he used to and AC can't make his attacks stick. I guess this maybe is some form of progress. :?

PS- I do like FF. I wish I could think that way about Cycling. :?

Richmond Racer

jerry3571 wrote:

I must admit, I don't mind the riders who have confessed; Miller, Jackshe, Hamilton. The riders who annoy me are the riders who deny any wrong doing when caught, then come back and carry on the same thinking we have forgotten they doped- Basso, AC, Valv, Vino. They seem to think that if they carry on regardless then the illusion still remains.
It's a bit like watching a Magician after you know how the trick is done.

It does amuse me that something must have changed in the testing which means that Basso can't do what he used to and AC can't make his attacks stick. I guess this maybe is some form of progress. :?

PS- I do like FF. I wish I could think that way about Cycling. :?

Though to be fair, Jerry, that's exactly what Hamilton did from the very first + at Athens onwards...he only found honesty when hauled in by the Feds in 2010 and after retirement as a rider.