Richmond Park, roundabouts and that f*cking Dynamo
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Keyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments
I previously knew nothing of this and, in the circumstances, regret playing along and apologise for any offence caused.0 -
I was going to ask that very thing as a bit of mischief. I do agreee with your reasoning though.okgo wrote:pps I'm well aware I did 9 laps of the park the other week for any smartarse who is going to dig that up, but it was a Tuesday and it was wet on the roads and I didn't want to get muddy
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OK, point taken about the grammar. But my initial post was trying to make this point:DonDaddyD wrote:steppingherring wrote:Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.
I see, I hope you are proud of yourself for that.
The website has been over my grammar time and again. There is no correlation to my written grammar and my overall intelligence. It really is a moot point and comments at this stage are extremely low and pathetic.
(And) no vermin, there is no link between the above and the word 'f*cking' in my title. Just in case you are attempting to use it to strengthen your point.
You're in Richmond park, you see antisocial cycling and it's London Dynamos. Did you expect it to be, say, Brighton Mitre? Anfield BC? The fact that they are a big club and in your area means that when you see wrongdoing by people in club kit, it's far more likely that you'll see Dynamos than anyone else.
Fair point and had they not been in club kit I'd probably still post and created a titled it: 'Richmond Park, roundabouts and them f*cking cyclists'.
The point for me wasn't that its 'always Dynamos' - I'm not sure that's written in my first post. My point was that what they did was dangerous. Sure naming the club makes the thread more pointed but if each and everyone of their members doesn't like the bad publicity then perhaps each individual member should take more care with their actions when flying the clubs colours?
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Keyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments
It's news to me for one (I don't read every post in every thread), maybe some more thought might need to be gievn before starting threads like this then0 -
Apologies, couldn't help myself. Certainly never mean to cause offence when posting.Keyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments0 -
You had the opportunity to demostrate that you have some decency and you still manage to fail.Paul E wrote:Keyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments
It's news to me for one (I don't read every post in every thread), maybe some more thought might need to be gievn before starting threads like this thenFood Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:
You had the opportunity to demostrate that you have some decency and you still manage to fail.Paul E wrote:Keyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments
It's news to me for one (I don't read every post in every thread), maybe some more thought might need to be gievn before starting threads like this then
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Not sure if you've got your tongue firmly in your cheek but it is a valid point. However, criticising spelling is usually a sign that people have run out of things to argue about in a thread and it's a last ditch attempt to keep it aliveKeyser__Soze wrote:I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments
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So the ad hominem attacks stopped what was an interesting debate again?
Yeesh.
For my take on it:
Dynamo riders were riding illegally (without due care and ignoring road signs) and unsafely
Don reacted correctly at the time
He was right to post about this as it was a relevant and (as stated) interesting topic
His choice of language was poor
Moving on
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vermin wrote:dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
Because it's not Birkenhead Park.
I don't ride around Birkenhead, because I have North Wales on my doorstep and the lanes of Cheshire a short ride away.
Perhaps if a Londoner moved up here they would feel right at home in Birkenhead park for all I know.
So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?0 -
dodgy wrote:So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
It's a nigh-on seven mile lap, with no traffic lights and only five roundabouts (which if you go anti-clockwise you're rarely if ever turning across traffic) and no large vehicles such as lorries. Don't get many similar places in London "Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
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Keyser__Soze wrote:dodgy wrote:So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
It's a nigh-on seven mile lap, with no traffic lights and only five roundabouts and no large vehicles such as lorries. Don't get many similar places in London
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Keyser__Soze wrote:dodgy wrote:So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
It's a nigh-on seven mile lap, with no traffic lights and only five roundabouts and no large vehicles such as lorries. Don't get many similar places in London
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dodgy wrote:vermin wrote:dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
Because it's not Birkenhead Park.
I don't ride around Birkenhead, because I have North Wales on my doorstep and the lanes of Cheshire a short ride away.
Perhaps if a Londoner moved up here they would feel right at home in Birkenhead park for all I know.
So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
Time. I can get to RP and do 3 laps and be home again in not much more than 1 hour 10 mins. To get out to country lanes takes at least 45 mins or so and involves lots of traffic lights etc. So for a quick training ride, especially pre-work in the Summer, RP is great. I can also imagine that if you have kids, are on call etc and need to be able to get home quickly then RP is great. I can't manage more than 3 laps without getting bored and will almost always head further afield for a long ride.- 2023 Vielo V+1
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My thoughts are that in this instance mr DDD is well withing his rights and perhaps by acting accordingly stopped a Dynamo chap (Or chaps) being splashed across his bonnet.
I get the feeling had this been other members (Including the Langauge) posting this the response would be different. DDD can be a spanner from time to time however he can come across as rather brash... That is just him it seems from the Internet dealings I have had from him.
What does baffle me is the attack on him froma Dynamo member taking a lot of things out of context and twisting words to suit his defence (Understandable it is his club...) when if the situation happened as stated is clearly the Dynamo blokes in the wrong.
I do not live in London. I have however been to RP several times and I can see chainganging there is going to end in tears. It did make my chuckle when vermin kind of suggested others should put up with it for the greater good!!!
As per above I do not come from London however from my time on this forum I know who the London Dynamos are and most of the stuff I have read have been complaints. But I guess with a big club this is bound to happen....0 -
dodgy wrote:vermin wrote:dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
Because it's not Birkenhead Park.
I don't ride around Birkenhead, because I have North Wales on my doorstep and the lanes of Cheshire a short ride away.
Perhaps if a Londoner moved up here they would feel right at home in Birkenhead park for all I know.
So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
+1. It's handy if you fancy a bit of an extended commute, but for proper weekend rides or training, it hardly seems ideal. Maybe I don't get up early enough, but from memory, it pretty much as busy as surrounding roads, but with an added 20mph speed limit.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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We don't know if any of this happened. Contacting the club would make more sense than whining about it here:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"0 -
rjsterry wrote:dodgy wrote:vermin wrote:dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
Because it's not Birkenhead Park.
I don't ride around Birkenhead, because I have North Wales on my doorstep and the lanes of Cheshire a short ride away.
Perhaps if a Londoner moved up here they would feel right at home in Birkenhead park for all I know.
So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
+1. It's handy if you fancy a bit of an extended commute, but for proper training, it hardly seems ideal. Maybe I don't get up early enough, but from memory, it pretty much as busy as surrounding roads, but with an added 20mph speed limit.
If you rise early enough you can get a lap or 2 in before the park is open to cars. Early summer mornings -pre traffic can be lovely.* Certainly works as a venue for a percentage of one's training.
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Kieran_Burns wrote:Dynamo riders were riding illegally (without due care and ignoring road signs) and unsafely
Don reacted correctly at the time
He was right to post about this as it was a relevant and (as stated) interesting topic
His choice of language was poor
Moving on
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mybreakfastconsisted wrote:We don't know if any of this happened. Contacting the club would make more sense than whining about it here:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"
I dunno. Posting here got a response from club members which is more than I've ever got attempting to contact them directly.Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
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That would also apply for every van/taxi/bus/lorry we hear about on this forum, and yet we're able to muster a lot more sympathy when it's one of these alleged antagonistsmybreakfastconsisted wrote:We don't know if any of this happened. Contacting the club would make more sense than whining about it here:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"0 -
mybreakfastconsisted wrote:We don't know if any of this happened. Contacting the club would make more sense than whining about it here:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"
Bit late to this one 'Weetabix', not sure how much your trolling is going to contribute. But to bite, I don't generally get annoyed by other road users using the road. I do get frustrated when their actions are directly dangerous to me - the level of frustration varies depending on the severity of their action. Nice try to take what I said out of context.
If you haven't then prove where I said or indicated that my position is the following:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"
If you cannot then bow out.
As for my credibility. I'm not going to argue that its only my account. I have no reason to lie.Food Chain number = 4
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Easy thing to do, next time do not stop if they have to slow down then that is their problem fella.
If they are cranking it out at 25mph+ and they ride into you then they should be more observant.
Also people seem to be losing site of that fact that DDD actually bothered to stop and allow them to carry on their way... Perhaps if they had raised a hand or used some sign to show they appreciated him slowing he might not have made this post? Manners cost nothing?0 -
Only time I ever had an issue with one of their members, I sent a constructive and non-inflammatory email to an address on their website, and got a prompt and constructive response. If I hadn't received a response I'd probably have probably assumed the email address was broken and followed it up with one of the members...Asprilla wrote:Posting here got a response from club members which is more than I've ever got attempting to contact them directly.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
Asprilla wrote:mybreakfastconsisted wrote:We don't know if any of this happened. Contacting the club would make more sense than whining about it here:
"Person who takes a vehicle onto the roads annoyed when others do same"
I dunno. Posting here got a response from club members which is more than I've ever got attempting to contact them directly.
It wasn't exactly constructive though, was it?0 -
Petersham Road had a 20mph limit before the Park did, effectively encouraging people to drive through the Park. That was ridiculous.rjsterry wrote:...but from memory, it pretty much as busy as surrounding roads, but with an added 20mph speed limit.0 -
Il Principe wrote:rjsterry wrote:dodgy wrote:vermin wrote:dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
Because it's not Birkenhead Park.
I don't ride around Birkenhead, because I have North Wales on my doorstep and the lanes of Cheshire a short ride away.
Perhaps if a Londoner moved up here they would feel right at home in Birkenhead park for all I know.
So again, why do experienced grown men and women cyclists ride around a park? What's the attraction? Surely you can get to some interesting terrain from London?
+1. It's handy if you fancy a bit of an extended commute, but for proper training, it hardly seems ideal. Maybe I don't get up early enough, but from memory, it pretty much as busy as surrounding roads, but with an added 20mph speed limit.
If you rise early enough you can get a lap or 2 in before the park is open to cars. Early summer mornings -pre traffic can be lovely.* Certainly works as a venue for a percentage of one's training.
*actually ignore that, it's horrible, I wouldn't try it if I were you.
Arf. If I lived nearby, maybe, but it's 8 miles through suburban south London, whereas Box Hill is 14 miles away, mostly through open countryside.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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And you can do as many laps as you like round Little Switzerland and up Box (IIRC about 8 miles). As many as I like is about one.rjsterry wrote:Arf. If I lived nearby, maybe, but it's 8 miles through suburban south London, whereas Box Hill is 14 miles away, mostly through open countryside.0
