Richmond Park, roundabouts and that f*cking Dynamo
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Its the only club I've seen that does a large number of rides in Richmond Park. Most of the conflict I've heard about with LD has been there. That, combined with their size just means they're more visible than other London clubs imo. KW rides start somewhere in Kingston and they usually head straight out to the hills.spasypaddy wrote:What i do find amusing is that Dynamo are the biggest club in London probably by some distance, however there are 4 or 5 other very big clubs who don't get anywhere near the level of flack that Dynamo do. Why is this?
Personally I don't have a problem with LD. They can come across as a bit distant and arrogant, and they ride at speed in RP, but then most other "serious" amateur road cyclists are like that, the effect is just amplified when they're in a larger group.0 -
They also seem to be the only club whos members insist on living in their kit... which probably doesnt helpnotsoblue wrote:
Its the only club I've seen that does a large number of rides in Richmond Park. Most of the conflict I've heard about with LD has been there. That, combined with their size just means they're more visible than other London clubs imo. KW rides start somewhere in Kingston and they usually head straight out to the hills.spasypaddy wrote:What i do find amusing is that Dynamo are the biggest club in London probably by some distance, however there are 4 or 5 other very big clubs who don't get anywhere near the level of flack that Dynamo do. Why is this?
Personally I don't have a problem with LD. They can come across as a bit distant and arrogant, and they ride at speed in RP, but then most other "serious" amateur road cyclists are like that, the effect is just amplified when they're in a larger group.BMC TM01 - FCN 0
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Why is it that Addison Lee get more flack than other minicab firms? Because there are a shedload of them and they have the name on the back in big writing. Whether AL are worse than other cab firms, we can't honestly tell.spasypaddy wrote:...
What i do find amusing is that Dynamo are the biggest club in London probably by some distance, however there are 4 or 5 other very big clubs who don't get anywhere near the level of flack that Dynamo do. Why is this?0 -
i give them all the same flack personally. I only have respect for proper black cab driversSteppenHerring wrote:Why is it that Addison Lee get more flack than other minicab firms? Because there are a shedload of them and they have the name on the back in big writing. Whether AL are worse than other cab firms, we can't honestly tell.BMC TM01 - FCN 0
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Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.Food Chain number = 4
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i give them all the same flack personally. I only have respect for proper black cab driversSteppenHerring wrote:Why is it that Addison Lee get more flack than other minicab firms? Because there are a shedload of them and they have the name on the back in big writing. Whether AL are worse than other cab firms, we can't honestly tell.
Me too.
My spidey sense tingle alot more when they are about..."If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."
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notsoblue wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:
But that's the point, it won't be me. I've been riding most of my life from their speed the size of the group and previous experience of Richardmond Park and London Dynamos had me prepared that they won't stop.notsoblue wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:However, seeing as this is the wall of obnoixous-pompousity I'm faced with I won't be stopping next time. Then you can tell me where I've gone wrong and whether typing the word f*cking on here is worse.
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What it will be is an innocent driver - driving to the rules as he has been taught - and wiping a chaingang out because they're supposed to stop and they won't for whatever 'its our park logic' they adhere to.
But at least they'll get your point, finally, won't they?
Bloody cyclists.
No not all are 'bloody cyclists', but I do wonder when they will get the point. As a cyclist I often wish that London's most visible cycling fratenity (given the feverish devotion some of their members demonstrate) understood the perception their actions carry and understood the responsiblity they shoulder when wearing the clubs shirt. They should observe road rules and set an example not just for their club but for cyclists in general. Nope, what we often get is an 'It's our park' attitude...Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Good point well made.DonDaddyD wrote:This is why there is often an issue between motorists and cyclists. No common ground can be found.
If someone who's both a cycling enthusiast and a motorist can't find it within himself to cut some cyclists a bit of slack, it's optimistic to expect any favours from motorists who don't cycle...
I'm not excusing the actions of this particular group of Dynorods, but what's wrong with cutting people a bit of slack?Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.DonDaddyD wrote:Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.0 -
The grammar's fine (assuming there are only 2 London cab firms).SteppenHerring wrote:
Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.DonDaddyD wrote:Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
I'm not so sure. To me it must refer to a comparison between the activities of two separate firms, but confining the analysis of their relative performance to their activities within London.TGOTB wrote:
The grammar's fine (assuming there are only 2 London cab firms).SteppenHerring wrote:
Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.DonDaddyD wrote:Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.0 -
steppingherring wrote:Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.
I see, I hope you are proud of yourself for that.
The website has been over my grammar time and again. There is no correlation to my written grammar and my overall intelligence. It really is a moot point and comments at this stage are extremely low and pathetic.
(And) no vermin, there is no link between the above and the word 'f*cking' in my title. Just in case you are attempting to use it to strengthen your point.Food Chain number = 4
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TGOTB wrote:
The grammar's fine (assuming there are only 2 London cab firms).SteppenHerring wrote:
Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.DonDaddyD wrote:Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.
That grammer is like what I have been taught!0 -
Maybe the cyclist in DDD caused his subconscious mind to hang back a bit when he saw them coming, this they took as an invitation to carry on. Then the conscious car driving DDD saw them and braked to avoid an accident, not realising his subconscious had already applied the brakes. This was taken by his conscious self as spidey-senses knowing what was going to happen. So, the war on Britains roads is actually taking place in the heads of cyclists that also drive.TGOTB wrote:
Good point well made.DonDaddyD wrote:This is why there is often an issue between motorists and cyclists. No common ground can be found.
If someone who's both a cycling enthusiast and a motorist can't find it within himself to cut some cyclists a bit of slack, it's optimistic to expect any favours from motorists who don't cycle...
I'm not excusing the actions of this particular group of Dynorods, but what's wrong with cutting people a bit of slack?
I realise that this is almost certainly nothing like what has happened, but as the thread is so long I figured I'd join in.0 -
You're absolutely right, I stand corrected...vermin wrote:
I'm not so sure. To me it must refer to a comparison between the activities of two separate firms, but confining the analysis of their relative performance to their activities within London.TGOTB wrote:
The grammar's fine (assuming there are only 2 London cab firms).SteppenHerring wrote:
Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.DonDaddyD wrote:Addison Lee is the worse cab firm in London.Pannier, 120rpm.0 -
Veronese68 wrote:
Maybe the cyclist in DDD caused his subconscious mind to hang back a bit when he saw them coming, this they took as an invitation to carry on. Then the conscious car driving DDD saw them and braked to avoid an accident, not realising his subconscious had already applied the brakes. This was taken by his conscious self as spidey-senses knowing what was going to happen. So, the war on Britains roads is actually taking place in the heads of cyclists that also drive.TGOTB wrote:
Good point well made.DonDaddyD wrote:This is why there is often an issue between motorists and cyclists. No common ground can be found.
If someone who's both a cycling enthusiast and a motorist can't find it within himself to cut some cyclists a bit of slack, it's optimistic to expect any favours from motorists who don't cycle...
I'm not excusing the actions of this particular group of Dynorods, but what's wrong with cutting people a bit of slack?
I realise that this is almost certainly nothing like what has happened, but as the thread is so long I figured I'd join in.0 -
Calling RC to the tread for some policing
As the thread has gone OT..."If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."
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DonDaddyD wrote:steppingherring wrote:Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.
I see, I hope you are proud of yourself for that.
The website has been over my grammar time and again. There is no correlation to my written grammar and my overall intelligence. It really is a moot point and comments at this stage are extremely low and pathetic.
(And) no vermin, there is no link between the above and the word 'f*cking' in my title. Just in case you are attempting to use it to strengthen your point.
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I think your closer to the truth than you realise.Veronese68 wrote:
Maybe the cyclist in DDD caused his subconscious mind to hang back a bit when he saw them coming, this they took as an invitation to carry on. Then the conscious car driving DDD saw them and braked to avoid an accident, not realising his subconscious had already applied the brakes. This was taken by his conscious self as spidey-senses knowing what was going to happen. So, the war on Britains roads is actually taking place in the heads of cyclists that also drive.TGOTB wrote:
Good point well made.DonDaddyD wrote:This is why there is often an issue between motorists and cyclists. No common ground can be found.
If someone who's both a cycling enthusiast and a motorist can't find it within himself to cut some cyclists a bit of slack, it's optimistic to expect any favours from motorists who don't cycle...
I'm not excusing the actions of this particular group of Dynorods, but what's wrong with cutting people a bit of slack?
I realise that this is almost certainly nothing like what has happened, but as the thread is so long I figured I'd join in.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?0
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I think your closer to the truth than you realise.Veronese68 wrote:
Maybe the cyclist in DDD caused his subconscious mind to hang back a bit when he saw them coming, this they took as an invitation to carry on. Then the conscious car driving DDD saw them and braked to avoid an accident, not realising his subconscious had already applied the brakes. This was taken by his conscious self as spidey-senses knowing what was going to happen. So, the war on Britains roads is actually taking place in the heads of cyclists that also drive.TGOTB wrote:
Good point well made.DonDaddyD wrote:This is why there is often an issue between motorists and cyclists. No common ground can be found.
If someone who's both a cycling enthusiast and a motorist can't find it within himself to cut some cyclists a bit of slack, it's optimistic to expect any favours from motorists who don't cycle...
I'm not excusing the actions of this particular group of Dynorods, but what's wrong with cutting people a bit of slack?
I realise that this is almost certainly nothing like what has happened, but as the thread is so long I figured I'd join in.
Sorry couldn't resist.0 -
OK, point taken about the grammar. But my initial post was trying to make this point:DonDaddyD wrote:steppingherring wrote:Well, with statistics and grammar like that, I'm convinced.
I see, I hope you are proud of yourself for that.
The website has been over my grammar time and again. There is no correlation to my written grammar and my overall intelligence. It really is a moot point and comments at this stage are extremely low and pathetic.
(And) no vermin, there is no link between the above and the word 'f*cking' in my title. Just in case you are attempting to use it to strengthen your point.
You're in Richmond park, you see antisocial cycling and it's London Dynamos. Did you expect it to be, say, Brighton Mitre? Anfield BC? The fact that they are a big club and in your area means that when you see wrongdoing by people in club kit, it's far more likely that you'll see Dynamos than anyone else.
The same point applies about Addison Lee. Because there are a lot of them and they are readily identifiable, most of the minicabs you observe behaving badly will be AL.
Saying all that, I've only been to Richmond Park a couple of times and running multiple chaingangs around it on a Saturday morning does seem a little ... aggressive.0 -
I must admit I struggle to find time to get out on my bike just for myself. If I do going round the park is easy because it's only a couple of minutes away from me. Having said that when there are a lot of people around it's not very nice at all and I avoid it like the plague.dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?0 -
dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?
I've asked that question many times. One particular dynamo does the same ride most weekends, starts in north London, does a few laps of regents park, does the Saturday morning laps, then goes home, ends up being about 60 miles, about as dull as you could possibly imagine.
The only reason I will use the park is if I need to be close to home so I can cut short at any time, or when the weather is a bit ropy for the same reason as above, and because there is no mud or rocks in the park. Its totally shite cycling there at the weekend, so I try to only do it during the week. Obviously the only other time I go in there is for 1 or 3 lap challenge which you can't get in the hills
As someone said, KW (who are probably actually quite close to LD in terms of size we have getting towards 600 members now) rides go straight out of London, but then we are based in Kingston and as such most of our members live near there, LD are not based anywhere, so I suppose given their members could be from all over London, it wouldn't make sense to have their club run start in Surbiton like ours does!
p.s. Dynamo do have rides that go out and about as I've seen them when out myself, but seems to be far less than KW do...
pps I'm well aware I did 9 laps of the park the other week for any smartarse who is going to dig that up, but it was a Tuesday and it was wet on the roads and I didn't want to get muddy
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I'm disappointed that this thread has descended into criticising spelling, particularly of someone who has previously stated they have dyslexia. Other posters should be aware of the symptoms and effects of dyslexia (poor spelling is a resultant side-effect of the reading problems), namely that dyslexics often find it difficult or slow to read or comprehend text and process information and have difficulty structuring arguments. Please can posters take this into account when replying. It is a genuine disability.Everyone is different but most people with dyslexia are likely to have difficulties with some of the following:
Reading, Spelling, Writing, Speed of processing information, Organisational skills, Short-term memory, Motor co-ordination, Numeracy
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take longer to complete reading
fail to notice spelling errors
find it difficult to structure arguments"Mummy Mummy, when will I grow up?"
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Because its conveniently close and its a known quantity that you can measure your training progress. I avoid it at peak times during the weekend though (Mainly because I want to speed. There, I've said it.)dodgy wrote:Why do grown men and women who are experienced cyclists do laps of a park on a weekend?0
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