Drugs in other sports and the media.

Pross

I'm hoping this sort of retrospective testing will help seriously reduce doping. The fear that you will be found out a few years down the line, lose your medals and potentially be sued by sponsors etc. for any financial gains you made from your cheating is probably the biggest deterrent.

joelsim

They only tested those who are still competing. Surely a 7% hit rate should open it up to testing all samples.

Rumours of at least 38 more from London from 250 retests.

Given that most strength/speed doping is steroids in training...

Oh dear. Imagine if one is the fastest man on earth or someone who needs nothing more than Quorn.

mechanism

Speaking of the fastest man on earth, somewhat belated and probably already discussed, I recently finished Richard Moore's The Bolt Supremacy: Inside Jamaica’s Sprint Factory. It's a great read and well balanced.

Shadowrider

fooballer fails HGH test, finds he has a tumor, but will keep playing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36329937

stagehopper

Shadowrider wrote:

fooballer fails HGH test, finds he has a tumor, but will keep playing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36329937

Think this has happened before where failure of the test was not indicative of doping but of cancer - can't remember who now.

lostboysaint

Alan Stubbs?

shinyhelmut

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/20/russian-athletes-likely-test-positive-2008-sports-minister

In other news; Pope admits to catholicism, bear faeces found in arboreal enviroment.....

joelsim

14 of the 31 positives reported to be Russkies.

Chicherova is the first name dropped. Gold medalist at London 2012 too.

dolan_driver

Is anyone surprised by this?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/ ... 54448.html

What a fooking joke.

DD.

Mad_Malx

Agree with you DD.

so uefa makes up its own rules about what doping is and isn't allowed. Good reason to throw football out of olympics?

sherer

so players are using this, so instead of investigating what is being masked or how it is used, to remove the drug from the banned list. Problem solved, nothing to see here.

Makes you wonder why this wasn't hushed up in the first place

joelsim

Seppelt and the PE teacher will be publishing a press release in a couple of weeks. The image they've used suggests they have some info. And I'm guessing it is about cycling rather than new plans for the school gymnasium.

https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/7 ... 3756780545

cruff

Joelsim wrote:

Seppelt and the PE teacher will be publishing a press release in a couple of weeks. The image they've used suggests they have some info. And I'm guessing it is about cycling rather than new plans for the school gymnasium.

https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/7 ... 3756780545

Oh noes! They have USB STICKS and everything!

No_Ta_Doctor

zebulebu wrote:

Joelsim wrote:

Seppelt and the PE teacher will be publishing a press release in a couple of weeks. The image they've used suggests they have some info. And I'm guessing it is about cycling rather than new plans for the school gymnasium.

https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/7 ... 3756780545

Oh noes! They have USB STICKS and everything!

Nooooo, not the USB sticks!


Can't be that major, they're releasing this in two weeks time. The Tour doesn't start until July.

ocdupalais

They're getting the band back together?


Ross Tucker on ukulele?

salsiccia1

Sharapova banned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/36482288

Shocked at this. Thought she'd just get 6 months or similar.

joelsim

Salsiccia1 wrote:

Sharapova banned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/36482288

Shocked at this. Thought she'd just get 6 months or similar.

She's appealing.

In the legal sense.

Mad_Malx

I am surprised by this. And she would of got away with it if she hadn't used the ignorance defence.

joelsim

New ARD doc tonight which links Mutko to cover ups.

A spokesman for the Russkies has suggested that all comment will be treated as libel.

Must be awful when the whole world thinks you are dirty cheats.

Vino'sGhost

Salsiccia1 wrote:

Sharapova banned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/36482288

Shocked at this. Thought she'd just get 6 months or similar.

She shot herself in the foot by admitting shed continued to take it.

r0bh

The reasoned decision is a good read: http://www.itftennis.com/media/231178/231178.pdf

Mad_Malx

^certainly is.

She also underwent MRI scans and ECG tests and examination by a number of specialists during this period, particularly in 2015. To none of the medical practitioners or specialists who treated her over 3 years did she disclose the fact that she was taking Mildronate. Her explanation in evidence is that none of them had asked what medication she was taking

It is remarkable that in the documents disclosed by the player the only documents which refer to Mildronate are documents from Dr. Skalny between 2006 and 2010. There is no document after 2010 in the player’s records which relates to her use of Mildronate. Nor was the use of Mildronate disclosed to the anti-doping authorities on any of the doping control forms which Ms Sharapova signed in 2014 and 2015

Turfle

Yet they go on to say they accept she didn't deliberately contravene anti-doping rules. Confusing.

Turfle

It may be that she genuinely believed that Mildronate had some general beneficial effect on her health but the manner in which the medication was taken, its concealment from the anti-doping authorities, her failure to disclose it even to her own team, and the lack of any medical justification must inevitably lead to the conclusion that she took Mildronate for the purpose of enhancing her performance.

The ITF accepts that the player did not engage in conduct that she knew constituted an antidoping rule violation. The basis of that concession is that she would not have continued to take Mildronate after 1 January 2016 if she had known that its active ingredient was on the Prohibited List, because she would inevitably be tested at the Australian Open 4

I remain confused

r0bh

Conclusion
104. The contravention of the anti-doping rules was not intentional as Ms Sharapova did not
appreciate that Mildronate contained a substance prohibited from 1 January 2016. However
she does bear sole responsibility for the contravention, and very significant fault, in failing
to take any steps to check whether the continued use of this medicine was permissible. If she
had not concealed her use of Mildronate from the anti-doping authorities, members of her
own support team and the doctors whom she consulted, but had sought advice, then the
contravention would have been avoided. She is the sole author of her own misfortune.

ManOfKent

Turfle wrote:

It may be that she genuinely believed that Mildronate had some general beneficial effect on her health but the manner in which the medication was taken, its concealment from the anti-doping authorities, her failure to disclose it even to her own team, and the lack of any medical justification must inevitably lead to the conclusion that she took Mildronate for the purpose of enhancing her performance.

The ITF accepts that the player did not engage in conduct that she knew constituted an antidoping rule violation. The basis of that concession is that she would not have continued to take Mildronate after 1 January 2016 if she had known that its active ingredient was on the Prohibited List, because she would inevitably be tested at the Australian Open 4

I remain confused

Presumably they mean that she knowingly took it as a performance enhancer rather than for genuine medical reasons, but didn't realise it was banned.

Pross

ManOfKent wrote:

Turfle wrote:

It may be that she genuinely believed that Mildronate had some general beneficial effect on her health but the manner in which the medication was taken, its concealment from the anti-doping authorities, her failure to disclose it even to her own team, and the lack of any medical justification must inevitably lead to the conclusion that she took Mildronate for the purpose of enhancing her performance.

The ITF accepts that the player did not engage in conduct that she knew constituted an antidoping rule violation. The basis of that concession is that she would not have continued to take Mildronate after 1 January 2016 if she had known that its active ingredient was on the Prohibited List, because she would inevitably be tested at the Australian Open 4

I remain confused

Presumably they mean that she knowingly took it as a performance enhancer rather than for genuine medical reasons, but didn't realise it was banned.

That's my reading of it.

Turfle

It's the last line that has me confused. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but to me it says they concede she wouldn't deliberately take a prohibited substance because well it would be madness to deliberately take a prohibited substance. It renders obsolete the whole idea of drug testing.

pinno

Turfle wrote:

It's the last line that has me confused. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but to me it says they concede she wouldn't deliberately take a prohibited substance because well it would be madness to deliberately take a prohibited substance. It renders obsolete the whole idea of drug testing.

Which if you think about it, is totally contrary as she got a 2 year ban.

sherer

Interesting comments on her facebook pge, most people just dont think she would take a PED and just believe whatever an athlete says.

If she genuingly needed this then why not have an independant doctor examine her and confirm it