Drugs in other sports and the media.
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I guess that depends on the source of the stats.
Qué? Government spending reports tend to be more reliable than IAAF press releases. They need to be reasonably accurate for the bankers, ironically.
Er, that is spend.
Not income.
Nor profit.
Not sure what the confusion is here. I know it's spending. Hence the reference to other things that money could have been spent on (e.g. infrastructure)....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Ellen Hoog. [Insert nodding, smiling smiley].seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Anyone know the final Olympic bill? Are those 2800 homes built from the Olympic village 'affordable'? Is there life in Peckham?
I'm afraid that the tidal wave that hit cycling when the LA revelations came to light does not for me reflect the reaction to doping in Athletics. Or is it just me?
Sorry to piddle on yer chips OCDuPa.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
WADA go ballistic in some weird sport played by sheep ranchers.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/12/essendon-drugs-verdict-34-players-guilty-of-doping-charges-and-banned-for-a-year
Although, I thought 2 years was standard"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I guess that depends on the source of the stats.
Qué? Government spending reports tend to be more reliable than IAAF press releases. They need to be reasonably accurate for the bankers, ironically.
Er, that is spend.
Not income.
Nor profit.
Not sure what the confusion is here. I know it's spending. Hence the reference to other things that money could have been spent on (e.g. infrastructure).
It's a little disingenuous to tally up spend without including any ROI.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777755#p19777755]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:WADA go ballistic in some weird sport played by sheep ranchers.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/12/essendon-drugs-verdict-34-players-guilty-of-doping-charges-and-banned-for-a-year
Although, I thought 2 years was standard
"The 34 players concerned are sanctioned with a period of ineligibility of two years, commencing on 31 March 2015, with credit given for any individual period of ineligibility already served. Thus, most of the suspensions will come to an end in November 2016.”0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777802#p19777802]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777755#p19777755]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:WADA go ballistic in some weird sport played by sheep ranchers.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/12/essendon-drugs-verdict-34-players-guilty-of-doping-charges-and-banned-for-a-year
Although, I thought 2 years was standard
"The 34 players concerned are sanctioned with a period of ineligibility of two years, commencing on 31 March 2015, with credit given for any individual period of ineligibility already served. Thus, most of the suspensions will come to an end in November 2016.”
Former Essendon coach James Hird
“I am shocked by this decision. I firmly believe the players do not deserve this finding. They do not deserve to face a 12-month suspension from the sport. This is a miscarriage of justice for 34 young men.”
AFL Players Association CEO Paul Marsh
“We have maintained our position that the players have done nothing wrong. Nothing today has changed our view. The players took all reasonable steps to assure themselves that what they were being given was compliant with the Wada code. They [the players] are the victims, not the perpetrators. They deserve our sympathy, not our scorn.”
Pretty bleak0 -
Are those 2800 homes built from the Olympic village 'affordable'?
I know 3 people who live there and are in their mid-late twenties doing reasonably normal income jobs, I get the impression it's moderately affordable compared to other parts of London.0 -
Are those 2800 homes built from the Olympic village 'affordable'?
I know 3 people who live there and are in their mid-late twenties doing reasonably normal income jobs, I get the impression it's moderately affordable compared to other parts of London.
That's not what the govt means by affordable. "Affordable Housing" is the new term for social housing i.e. subsidised housing (owned or rented) for those otherwise unable to access housing in the current market.0 -
I guess that depends on the source of the stats.
Qué? Government spending reports tend to be more reliable than IAAF press releases. They need to be reasonably accurate for the bankers, ironically.
Er, that is spend.
Not income.
Nor profit.
Not sure what the confusion is here. I know it's spending. Hence the reference to other things that money could have been spent on (e.g. infrastructure).
It's a little disingenuous to tally up spend without including any ROI.
^This.
If they had dropped the money in bunches of £50 notes down a drain, then your analysis of the spend is correct Maca.
But they didn't.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777802#p19777802]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777755#p19777755]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:WADA go ballistic in some weird sport played by sheep ranchers.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/12/essendon-drugs-verdict-34-players-guilty-of-doping-charges-and-banned-for-a-year
Although, I thought 2 years was standard
"The 34 players concerned are sanctioned with a period of ineligibility of two years, commencing on 31 March 2015, with credit given for any individual period of ineligibility already served. Thus, most of the suspensions will come to an end in November 2016.”
Former Essendon coach James Hird
“I am shocked by this decision. I firmly believe the players do not deserve this finding. They do not deserve to face a 12-month suspension from the sport. This is a miscarriage of justice for 34 young men.”
AFL Players Association CEO Paul Marsh
“We have maintained our position that the players have done nothing wrong. Nothing today has changed our view. The players took all reasonable steps to assure themselves that what they were being given was compliant with the Wada code. They [the players] are the victims, not the perpetrators. They deserve our sympathy, not our scorn.”
Pretty bleak
Hird is bloody fortunate he's not serving a ban too. He's a hero in AFL, so everyone gives him a free pass.
As for the squeals...bs, I'm afraid. Stephen Dank admitted to the media on a number of occasions that he'd given the players TB4, and professed surprise, well, disgust actually, when told it was on the banned list.
The players tripped over themselves in their testimonies, prevaricating, according to the decision.
And...athletes liability. Compounded by implausible, and then conflicting, denials0 -
If they had dropped the money in bunches of £50 notes down a drain, then your analysis of the spend is correct Maca.
If they had done that then a lot of the money would have returned to the government in the form of duty on White Lightning purchased by tramps.
Circular flow of income
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If they had dropped the money in bunches of £50 notes down a drain, then your analysis of the spend is correct Maca.
If they had done that then a lot of the money would have returned to the government in the form of duty on White Lightning purchased by tramps.
Circular flow of income
They drink Bollinger round Stratford way.0 -
It's a little disingenuous to tally up spend without including any ROI.
That's true. It's a bit difficult to find reliable "Legacy" figures. It's gone a little quiet on that front since Coe sold his Management Consultancy (LoLs) for a few mil....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
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It's a little disingenuous to tally up spend without including any ROI.
That's true. It's a bit difficult to find reliable "Legacy" figures. It's gone a little quiet on that front since Coe sold his Management Consultancy (LoLs) for a few mil.
Show me on this bear where the bad management consultant touched you."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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If they had dropped the money in bunches of £50 notes down a drain, then your analysis of the spend is correct Maca.
But they didn't.
It's disingenuous to suggest I'm saying all of the spending was wasted. I'm not. I'm sure the Qataris will enjoy their Olympic village, and the regeneration of wasteland in the area is most welcome. Meanwhile that spending was unavailable for other worthy projects.
Given the enormous sums of public money involved, I'm suggesting there should be some accountability for:
'"First of all I have no worries about the reputation of the Games as we have a zero-tolerance policy to drug abuse in sport and during the Games we will provide all the infrastructure the IOC needs to carry out its testing process in the competition," Coe told reporters at the conclusion of the IOC's penultimate Coordination Commission visit.'
http://uk.reuters.com/article/olympics-london-ioc-idUKL5E7L726C20111007
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London Olympics were sabotaged by Russia’s doping, report says
We'll have to wait for further leaks from thick Seb's 'advisors' to find out if there were ethically dubious business dealings to accompany the doping cover-ups. The potential scandal is much more corrosive to public life than a few games records....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777943#p19777943]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:It's a little disingenuous to tally up spend without including any ROI.
That's true. It's a bit difficult to find reliable "Legacy" figures. It's gone a little quiet on that front since Coe sold his Management Consultancy (LoLs) for a few mil.
Show me on this bear where the bad management consultant touched you.
Oh SNAP!0 -
If they had dropped the money in bunches of £50 notes down a drain, then your analysis of the spend is correct Maca.
But they didn't.
It's disingenuous to suggest I'm saying all of the spending was wasted. I'm not. I'm sure the Qataris will enjoy their Olympic village, and the regeneration of wasteland in the area is most welcome. Meanwhile that spending was unavailable for other worthy projects.
Given the enormous sums of public money involved, I'm suggesting there should be some accountability for:
'"First of all I have no worries about the reputation of the Games as we have a zero-tolerance policy to drug abuse in sport and during the Games we will provide all the infrastructure the IOC needs to carry out its testing process in the competition," Coe told reporters at the conclusion of the IOC's penultimate Coordination Commission visit.'
http://uk.reuters.com/article/olympics-london-ioc-idUKL5E7L726C20111007
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London Olympics were sabotaged by Russia’s doping, report says
We'll have to wait for further leaks from thick Seb's 'advisors' to find out if there were ethically dubious business dealings to accompany the doping cover-ups. The potential scandal is much more corrosive to public life than a few games records.
You have no evidence whatsoever of ethically dubious business dealings but you're going to throw it about anyway because you don't like the politics of the guy who headed up the organisation?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Whatever you think about Coe, and even discounting the regeneration, any boosts to tourism, the boost to the UK/London brand, the fantastic facilities available, the free water fountains for kids onsite, the Olympics were absolutely magical for a month.
That Saturday was one of the best days of sport I've ever experienced, if not the best.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19777943#p19777943]disgruntledgoat[/url] wrote:Show me on this bear where the bad management consultant touched you.
I need a trigger warning. I didn't actually know that's how Coe described his company, but I'm not surprised....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Whatever you think about Coe, and even discounting the regeneration, any boosts to tourism, the boost to the UK/London brand, the fantastic facilities available, the free water fountains for kids onsite, the Olympics were absolutely magical for a month.
That Saturday was one of the best days of sport I've ever experienced, if not the best.
Yep. Fantastic time. Loved it.0 -
I note that Rich hasn't denied being a leading practitioner of Celtic shamanism.
I suggest Macca books a long weekend with him, to participate in psilocybin based rituals to drive the management consultant devils from him. But just say no to anything involving sheep.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
I note that Rich hasn't denied being a leading practitioner of Celtic shamanism.
I suggest Macca books a long weekend with him, to participate in psilocybin based rituals to drive the management consultant devils from him. But just say no to anything involving sheep.
Hallucinogenics and sheep: Good weekend.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
I note that Rich hasn't denied being a leading practitioner of Celtic shamanism.
I suggest Macca books a long weekend with him, to participate in psilocybin based rituals to drive the management consultant devils from him. But just say no to anything involving sheep.
Hallucinogenics and sheep: Good weekend.
Flashback, Pinno? 8)0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19778231#p19778231]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:I note that Rich hasn't denied being a leading practitioner of Celtic shamanism.
I suggest Macca books a long weekend with him, to participate in psilocybin based rituals to drive the management consultant devils from him. But just say no to anything involving sheep.
Hallucinogenics and sheep: Good weekend.
Flashback, Pinno? 8)
I'm part Welsh, it's in the blood.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
They're going to need a new human shield.The second part of the Wada report into doping in Russia and attempted cover-ups at the IAAF will conclude that there was no way members of the world athletics governing body’s council, which included the current president Sebastian Coe, could have been unaware of the extent of doping and non-enforcement of the rules in track and field, according to the Associated Press.
It's looking increasingly likely that Coe's role is to take the fall for some colossal London 2012 scandal. If it was bid rigging under Blair, we'd know by now......a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Yesterday Coe said that the Exec Board and Anti-Doping were kept completely separate and that he didn't have a single conversation about doping until he became President.
I guess we'll see later on. Seems somewhat misguided/incredible/incredulous [delete as applicable] to never have had a conversation about doping.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/14/sebastian-coe-iaaf-wada-report-lamine-diack-putin0 -
Boris Johnson and Sebastian Coe: the real Olympic heroes? (AFP Photo / Ben Stansall) / AFP
https://www.rt.com/news/london-olympics-locog-media-015/ RT
...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Ok. Who brought the popcorn?0
