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Coe in the frame again.... Oh dear, what a shame.“You may think that; I couldn’t possibly comment!”
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Coe in the frame again.... Oh dear, what a shame.
Link/reference please?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Although Ryan Shawcross and Jon Walters still did their best to impress the visiting Eddie Jones
What yer sayin' like?
Maybe they were juiced up.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Coe in the frame again.... Oh dear, what a shame.
Link/reference please?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34908237
it's alleged (and there is supporting email evidence, apparently) that he whispered in Diack's ear to get the 2021 World Championships awarded to Eugene, Oregon (home of Nike, who Coe is a paid shill for) without a bidding process.0 -
Coe is an ex politician and he has seemingly been able to walk on water...seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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In summary, he oiled the machine on behalf of Nike, as we suspected.
As well as ignoring doping scandals and IAAF duties for however many years.
The bloke is a toad.0 -
Meh. Welcome to politics. People don't get into high places without people backing them and it's hardly surprising that they may look kindly on them later on. And even if Coe gave up his current Nike contract (as he should) he's still had a near 40 year relationship with them. That doesn't just disappear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34908237
it's alleged (and there is supporting email evidence, apparently) that he whispered in Diack's ear to get the 2021 World Championships awarded to Eugene, Oregon (home of Nike, who Coe is a paid shill for) without a bidding process.
Besides, the USA has never had a Worlds before and (whether you like it or not) Nike have been a huge backer of athletics through good times and bad. So Eugene (which holds a Diamond League event) seems a pretty reasonable choice to me. It's not a FIFA/Qatar type situation.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Meh. Welcome to politics. People don't get into high places without people backing them and it's hardly surprising that they may look kindly on them later on. And even if Coe gave up his current Nike contract (as he should) he's still had a near 40 year relationship with them. That doesn't just disappear.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/34908237
it's alleged (and there is supporting email evidence, apparently) that he whispered in Diack's ear to get the 2021 World Championships awarded to Eugene, Oregon (home of Nike, who Coe is a paid shill for) without a bidding process.
Besides, the USA has never had a Worlds before and (whether you like it or not) Nike have been a huge backer of athletics through good times and bad. So Eugene (which holds a Diamond League event) seems a pretty reasonable choice to me. It's not a FIFA/Qatar type situation.
I see your point and that's all very well but there should be a democratic process of selection and Gothenberg has missed out on at least a fair chance.
Lets have the 2017 world road race championships near the Sidi factory or the Colnago factory shall we? Whilst I appreciate the fact that sport requires finance, these companies are in it to make a profit - that's the bottom line. Look how quickly sponsors pull out of cycling when they have had their 15 minutes and extracted what they want out of it.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
although when the World Championships went to Osaka in 2007 the same thing happened.
What was the alternative, give a load of bribes from both cities to the IAAF members and then whoever had the best bribes wins ?0 -
What was the alternative, give a load of bribes from both cities to the IAAF members and then whoever had the best bribes wins ?
I may have missed your point but there should be no bribery. Eugene as stated, is a Diamond League venue and had every chance to get a WC, same as Gothenburg. Given the finite number of venues, surely all of the suitable venues would be given an opportunity to hold a WC event under a fair system?
If individuals within governing organisations benefit financially and politically from bribery, then it is wrong. Looks like Coe was doing a return favour for Nike. I hope the Swedes kick up merry hell about this.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
What was the alternative, give a load of bribes from both cities to the IAAF members and then whoever had the best bribes wins ?
I may have missed your point but there should be no bribery. Eugene as stated, is a Diamond League venue and had every chance to get a WC, same as Gothenburg. Given the finite number of venues, surely all of the suitable venues would be given an opportunity to hold a WC event under a fair system?
If individuals within governing organisations benefit financially and politically from bribery, then it is wrong. Looks like Coe was doing a return favour for Nike. I hope the Swedes kick up merry hell about this.
^This. It's not politics, it's bribery. And a governing body is there to be impartial.
I'm looking forward to the 'wow' that Pound says is in the second report.0 -
it's either bribary and no bidding process or both cities bribe the IAAF and only one of them wins.
In an ideal world both cities should submit a bid and not have to deal in back handers, gifts to the visiting delegates from the IAAF etc etc0 -
Well he's not working for Nike any more, apparently.:
Lord Coe: IAAF president ends association with Nike - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/349389530 -
The first time Nike have said someone's bad for their image???0
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I noticed that they were "...working 18 hours a day to steady the ship". Does that require pro-plus or an amphetamine, for example?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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Perhaps the "ship" being referred to is actually Nike?I noticed that they were "...working 18 hours a day to steady the ship". Does that require pro-plus or an amphetamine, for example?
Cor - who'd be a multinational corporation, eh!? One minute you get busted for employing child labour in sweat-shops, then 2 of your most globally recognised ambassadors (Woods and Armstrong) gets busted for being bast@rds... Next thing you know, another ambassador gets to squat over the IAAF throne: but then, lo and behold, he gets crow-barred from his bung...
On the plus side, you've got an extra £100K knocking about; but that's as nowt compared the potential countless millions lost through Coe's position of influence being flagged.0 -
Perhaps the "ship" being referred to is actually Nike?I noticed that they were "...working 18 hours a day to steady the ship". Does that require pro-plus or an amphetamine, for example?
Cor - who'd be a multinational corporation, eh!? One minute you get busted for employing child labour in sweat-shops, then 2 of your most globally recognised ambassadors (Woods and Armstrong) gets busted for being bast@rds... Next thing you know, another ambassador gets to squat over the IAAF throne: but then, lo and behold, he gets crow-barred from his bung...
On the plus side, you've got an extra £100K knocking about; but that's as nowt compared the potential countless millions lost through Coe's position of influence being flagged.
^This. A slightly better company than Union Carbide.
Just do ......
Fill in the blank.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
You forgot about the one who murdered his wife through the bathroom door0
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The list grows.
Child labour/sweat shops
Tiger Woods
Lance Dopestrong
Lord Coe
Blade Runner.
Any additions?
Weak point, I know but is there any correlation between Nike and the pressure they place on individuals/organisations to fulfil contracts and obligations or is it simply a matter of recruiting who is perceived to be at the pinnacle of any given discipline, regardless of other factors or plain bad luck?
Even the glorious, untouchable Apple corporation have been pulled for poor working conditions in far eastern work places.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
The list grows.
Child labour/sweat shops
Tiger Woods
Lance Dopestrong
Lord Coe
Blade Runner.
Any additions?
Justin Gatlin. The one who's been banned twice for doping.
But I say this whilst sitting here, wearing a pair of Nike Air trainers... :oops:It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
The list grows.
Child labour/sweat shops
Tiger Woods
Lance Dopestrong
Lord Coe
Blade Runner.
Any additions?
Justin Gatlin. The one who's been banned twice for doping.
But I say this whilst sitting here, wearing a pair of Nike Air trainers... :oops:
You haven't been busted yet. I don't think sausages are on the banned list.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
You forgot about the one who murdered his wife through the bathroom door
they weren't married...0 -
You forgot about the one who murdered his wife through the bathroom door
they weren't married...
She was asking for it then!Trail fun - Transition Bandit
Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
Allround - Cotic Solaris0 -
The list grows.
Child labour/sweat shops
Tiger Woods
Lance Dopestrong
Lord Coe
Blade Runner.
Any additions?
Weak point, I know but is there any correlation between Nike and the pressure they place on individuals/organisations to fulfil contracts and obligations or is it simply a matter of recruiting who is perceived to be at the pinnacle of any given discipline, regardless of other factors or plain bad luck?
Even the glorious, untouchable Apple corporation have been pulled for poor working conditions in far eastern work places.
USATF signed a - wait for it - 23 year contract with Nike, from 2017-2040
http://www.usatf.org/News/USATF-and-NIKE-Inc--sign-long-term-partnership.aspx
There is tale after tale from out of the US on ways in which Nike are running US Track and Field. the governing body just sold the reigns and handed them over to Nike.0 -
I guess it is no different to SKY and the MCC or Sky and British Cycling but 23 years?!seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I fully expect the USA to go with a USA company, they could hardly go with Adidas.
I would expect Germany to be with Adidas too. Has either nation ever signed with anyone else0 -
I fully expect the USA to go with a USA company, they could hardly go with Adidas.
I would expect Germany to be with Adidas too. Has either nation ever signed with anyone else
Adidas, nearly bankrupted by the Germans, saved by the French.
I struggle with both of the "big two". They hardly score well on any kind of ethical business model.
https://www.cleanclothes.org/livingwage/tailoredwages/tailored-wages-position/nike-profile.pdf/view
https://www.cleanclothes.org/livingwage/tailoredwages/tailored-wages-position/adidas-profile.pdf/viewTrail fun - Transition Bandit
Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur/Cube Agree C62 Disc
Allround - Cotic Solaris0 -
Adidas also sponsor the IAAF themselves. Currently mid way through an 11 year contract.I fully expect the USA to go with a USA company, they could hardly go with Adidas.
I would expect Germany to be with Adidas too. Has either nation ever signed with anyone elseTwitter: @RichN950 -
The list grows.
Child labour/sweat shops
Tiger Woods
Lance Dopestrong
Lord Coe
Blade Runner.
Any additions?
Justin Gatlin. The one who's been banned twice for doping.
But I say this whilst sitting here, wearing a pair of Nike Air trainers... :oops:
Salazar, Rupp, Farah and Project Oregon
AllegedlyIt's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
I guess it is no different to SKY and the MCC or Sky and British Cycling but 23 years?!
Yeah. That's the thing.
There are a heap of stories of things such as Nike personnel getting actively involved trackside in lobbying USATF officials re Nike-sponsored athletes. There was a pretty infamous incident in the Womens 3000m US Nats last year involving one of Salazar's athletes which saw Salazar, supported by Nike reps, lobbying officials to disqualify the runner who'd beaten his athlete. Officials managed to disregard their own rule book at first by ruling on behalf of a Salazar appeal against his initial appeal that had gone the wrong way for him. 2 days later USATF reversed their decision yet again, thanks to the uproar that had followed.0
