Drugs in other sports and the media.
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Nearly crashed the car listening to Radio 5 yesterday around lunchtime. They had a panel of sportspeople on discussing various subjects one of which was doping. One of the panel was a wheelchair tennis player who said something along the lines that she was lucky to be involved in a sport that isn't affected and basically suggested doping wouldn't be much help in a skill based sport like tennis.0
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Nearly crashed the car listening to Radio 5 yesterday around lunchtime. They had a panel of sportspeople on discussing various subjects one of which was doping. One of the panel was a wheelchair tennis player who said something along the lines that she was lucky to be involved in a sport that isn't affected and basically suggested doping wouldn't be much help in a skill based sport like tennis.
I hope they have checked her wheelchair for a hidden motor.
To be fair though Pross, Brendan Foster was waxing lyrical about Mo last night, and there's absolutely no way he has doped.
Now, either BF hasn't read the news, ever, or he is just a bit thick. Looking forward to the next raft of Mo coming out very shortly.0 -
It's wheelchair tennis though. It's all motorised doping for them. I know the technology exists, a couple of women in my office have them.Nearly crashed the car listening to Radio 5 yesterday around lunchtime. They had a panel of sportspeople on discussing various subjects one of which was doping. One of the panel was a wheelchair tennis player who said something along the lines that she was lucky to be involved in a sport that isn't affected and basically suggested doping wouldn't be much help in a skill based sport like tennis.
Edit: damn you Joel. Beat me to it.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Does the thing para athletes were accused of in 2012 count as doping? Apparently causing injury to limbs that have no feeling to stimulate adrenaline?0
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Does Cetirizine have any performance enhancing effects?
Does cortisone?
Well, if you have tendinitis in, say, your knee and can hardly walk without pain, me thinks you will be seeking a shot of said Cortisone and within a couple of days you will most likely be walking a whole lot better. That's performance enhancing to me.0 -
BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208Leaked IAAF doping files reveal 'extraordinary extent of cheating'
Athletics is facing a new crisis after fresh allegations of suspected doping emerged following a leak of test data.
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.0 -
BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208Leaked IAAF doping files reveal 'extraordinary extent of cheating'
Athletics is facing a new crisis after fresh allegations of suspected doping emerged following a leak of test data.
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.
Only 1/3?0 -
BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208Leaked IAAF doping files reveal 'extraordinary extent of cheating'
Athletics is facing a new crisis after fresh allegations of suspected doping emerged following a leak of test data.
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.
Only 1/3?
Trust brain of britain to comment first.0 -
Slightly OT but I watched a good Docu film on Netflix tonight called Bigger Stronger Faster, which is about steroid abuse in body building/wrestling. It is made by one of three brothers all of whom became body builders and all of whom took steroids. It's an interesting insight into what most of us what call dopers. The only cycling mentioned is Floyd, pre-letter, so it's quite amusing to watch him squirming for the 2 mins or so he is on.
If you re on netflix it's free so give it a whirl on a quiet nightWe're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Strange that it's all anonymous yet they say bokt and Farah are on the clear.0
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BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208Leaked IAAF doping files reveal 'extraordinary extent of cheating'
Athletics is facing a new crisis after fresh allegations of suspected doping emerged following a leak of test data.
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.
Also says:
"A top UK athlete is among seven Britons with suspicious blood scores"
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Strange that it's all anonymous yet they say bokt and Farah are on the clear.
They have the same management as there has obviously been some legal stuff that has gone on as any reporting on the Salaza doping accusations also has at least a sentence saying no suggestion of Farah being involved.
Looks like there is some restriction in place where they cannot throw around allegations or implication unlike for cyclists0 -
It's an interesting read. That it covers such a length of time makes it difficult to know how to process it or what to do with it.
But at least we now know for 100% FACT that Mo is clean. It's just a Times cover-up for Sky though. Those are just a couple of things I've learned from twitter this morning.0 -
But at least we now know for 100% FACT that Mo is clean.
That is a joke isn't it? Twitter is good for this.
If you want to learn nothing, from f***** idiots, faster than you'll learn it elsewhere, use twitter.0 -
Yes, there are strong rumours as to who the top British athlete is and she's been mentioned here before.
The British athlete’s off-score was 40% higher on the day of the race than in a test taken two days before the race (so I'm told) but the IAAF didn't follow it up.
This is also interesting, ARD Russia follow-up.
http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Reportage-Dokumentation/Geheimsache-Doping-engl-Version/Das-Erste/Video?documentId=29857186&bcastId=7992800 -
BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208Leaked IAAF doping files reveal 'extraordinary extent of cheating'
Athletics is facing a new crisis after fresh allegations of suspected doping emerged following a leak of test data.
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.
Only 1/3?
Trust brain of britain to comment first.
Bear in mind that 1/3 is only blood doping...nothing else.0 -
Well there are rumours, but they all seem to be based on the "fact" that she was on the suspicious list last time, therefore it must definitely be her with the high off-scores. Then lots of people repeating it.
The timing seems off for it to be her. "Several years later the athlete was investigated by the IAAF". I don't know. Seems unfair to guess based on so little.0 -
Walsh wrote a bit in The Sunday Times yesterday, and the point they're trying to make (I think) is that the IAAF is making the same mistakes that the UCI made through the 90s.
They did name some names, the Russians in the 1500m in World Championships 2005 and the guy that won the 8 & 1500 the same year (can't remember his name off the top of my head - the guy from Bahrain).
Need to read the rest of it later, but it's disappointing to see the IAAF taking absolutely no action when they know that people are risking their health.
At least the 50% health check was SOMETHING to try and check unhealthy EPO use0 -
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Top swimming coach John Leonard says his sport is riddled with doping. 'More cheats than ever.' Link in German:
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/sportpolitik/doping/john-leonard-spricht-ueber-doping-im-schwimmsport-13731452.htmlContador is the Greatest0 -
Yes, there are strong rumours as to who the top British athlete is and she's been mentioned here before.
I think you've alluded to it being Radcliffe?
she sure has a massive pair of balls, if so
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What the doping brigade that Joel so loves to listen to and be part of, singularly fail to even consider for one moment is that if it is indeed GB's finest ever female long-distance runner, pregnancy is known to shoot levels through the roof.
Too convenient to think about, obvs.
Thats the only post I'll write on this particular subject. And to add that the likes of @theraceradio needs to have a word with himself0 -
Yes, there are strong rumours as to who the top British athlete is and she's been mentioned here before.
I think you've alluded to it being Radcliffe?
she sure has a massive pair of balls, if so
Don't think it's her. Thinking a shorter distance event. Female athlete who only does well in major champs and has previous for missing out of competition tests would be my guess...Giant Trance X 2010
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Yes, there are strong rumours as to who the top British athlete is and she's been mentioned here before.
I think you've alluded to it being Radcliffe?
she sure has a massive pair of balls, if so
They're saying it's someone who's been investigated before. And there is someone who has been in 'trouble' previously, so I don't think it's Radcliffe.
Edit: what he said ^It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19671184#p19671184]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:Walsh wrote a bit in The Sunday Times yesterday, and the point they're trying to make (I think) is that the IAAF is making the same mistakes that the UCI made through the 90s.
They did name some names, the Russians in the 1500m in World Championships 2005 and the guy that won the 8 & 1500 the same year (can't remember his name off the top of my head - the guy from Bahrain).
Need to read the rest of it later, but it's disappointing to see the IAAF taking absolutely no action when they know that people are risking their health.
At least the 50% health check was SOMETHING to try and check unhealthy EPO use
Walsh's piece was a good one. He made similar points after the first ARD doco (he was, I think, also the only journo for a major British newspaper who got an interview with Vitaly Stepanov).
I just made the comment on Twitter that Cycling was the canary in the coal mine but all other sports governing bodies just covered their ears.
I remember Richard Moore saying that the vibe in the media room at the 2013 World Athletics Champs felt like cycling in 2006.0 -
So the Tour of Portugal is going on right now (Dan Freibe has been mentioning it a few times). Apparently the leaders up one mountain were putting out over 6.5 w/kg for close on 20mins. These numbers could be entirely wrong though.Contador is the Greatest0
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19671251#p19671251]Richmond Racer 2[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19671184#p19671184]TakeTheHighRoad[/url] wrote:Walsh wrote a bit in The Sunday Times yesterday, and the point they're trying to make (I think) is that the IAAF is making the same mistakes that the UCI made through the 90s.
They did name some names, the Russians in the 1500m in World Championships 2005 and the guy that won the 8 & 1500 the same year (can't remember his name off the top of my head - the guy from Bahrain).
Need to read the rest of it later, but it's disappointing to see the IAAF taking absolutely no action when they know that people are risking their health.
At least the 50% health check was SOMETHING to try and check unhealthy EPO use
Walsh's piece was a good one. He made similar points after the first ARD doco (he was, I think, also the only journo for a major British newspaper who got an interview with Vitaly Stepanov).
I just made the comment on Twitter that Cycling was the canary in the coal mine but all other sports governing bodies just covered their ears.
I remember Richard Moore saying that the vibe in the media room at the 2013 World Athletics Champs felt like cycling in 2006.
Silly question, but what exactly did he mean by the bit in bold?Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
If only there was a way I could get to see that Walsh article?! 0:-)
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In the last 24 hours I've read people naming a sprinter, a middle distance runner and a long distance runner which suggests most people are just guessing.
I did learn one thing that surprised me, that the sprinter named was doing altitude training in South Africa. And there was me thinking it was only distance runners that helped.0 -
i think the below taken from BBC Sport tells you all you need to know about how much knowledge the IAAf had. Has a ring of Sepp Blatter about it
"Outgoing IAAF president Lamine Diack said suggestions his organisation had been negligent in the drug-testing of athletes was "laughable".
The 82-year-old also told the IOC it was a campaign to redistribute medals.
"I believe that the IAAF has always shown that it is absolutely aware that it cannot allow doubts about the performances accomplished by athletes," he said.
"Behind all this is a desire to redistribute medals, take care of this.""Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
