Drugs in other sports and the media.
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It would make sense to quickstep if you were doing that.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
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I am interest in how this actually works, since you obviously can't extract the same blood you put in... The blood you extract would have the same properties (ratio of old:young cells) as whatever was left in so I don't understand how removing some of it would fool the test.ddraver wrote:awavey wrote:Nordic World Ski Championships: Five athletes arrested over doping, from the BBC no less...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-sports/47390340
One of the Estonian's gave an interview
Interesting listen - https://fasterskier.com/fsarticle/nordi ... -tammjarv/
Very much still dealing with being caught, shades of David Millar about his reaction.
It's also interesting that the skiers appear to infuse on the morning of the race and then remove it afterwards in order not to trigger any bio-passport irregularities. Obviously this wouldn't work in the GT...0 -
Isn't one of the markers that they look for in the passport the number of young blood cells?
So if you infuse a bag, the body stops producing new red blood cells, so cheats would still use EPO in microdoses in order to stimulate red blood cell production and fool that aspect of the test.
Perhaps with the more sensitive EPO tests they can get a similar effect by bagging blood overnight (in that removing the blood stimulates production of new cells?)0 -
A bag of babies blood kept under the skin. Like "Withnail and I"....TimothyW wrote:Isn't one of the markers that they look for in the passport the number of young blood cells?
So if you infuse a bag, the body stops producing new red blood cells, so cheats would still use EPO in microdoses in order to stimulate red blood cell production and fool that aspect of the test.
Perhaps with the more sensitive EPO tests they can get a similar effect by bagging blood overnight (in that removing the blood stimulates production of new cells?)0 -
darkhairedlord wrote:
A bag of babies blood kept under the skin. Like "Withnail and I"....TimothyW wrote:Isn't one of the markers that they look for in the passport the number of young blood cells?
So if you infuse a bag, the body stops producing new red blood cells, so cheats would still use EPO in microdoses in order to stimulate red blood cell production and fool that aspect of the test.
Perhaps with the more sensitive EPO tests they can get a similar effect by bagging blood overnight (in that removing the blood stimulates production of new cells?)
Let’s hope they don’t like carrots too. Quality film0 -
ddraver wrote:My immediate thought was that there must be other blood chemistry markers that are tested...
Well yeah I get there must be more to it which is why I was interested. I don't understand how taking some blood out after the race helps.0 -
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What other major sports don't follow the WADA code? I assume boxing doesn't since this is voluntary testing"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0
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He’s not messing around; GW1516, HGH, EPO (allegedly)0
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gsk82 wrote:What other major sports don't follow the WADA code? I assume boxing doesn't since this is voluntary testing
Boxing has WBA, WBC and WBO, so no need for WADA, obviously."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Yeah it’s so much more believable when they blame a jack daniels.davieb78 wrote:0 -
gsk82 wrote:What other major sports don't follow the WADA code? I assume boxing doesn't since this is voluntary testing
netball ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/47583646 on the basis the WADA code surely must insist on at least one test in 5 years.
pretty dispiriting list of sports not bothering much with testing there too, appreciate UKAD have finite funds and concentrate on their "intelligence" led approach, but that feels like there are alot of gaps,and I read after the boat race, that they dont test competitors at any stage for the boat race, its just assumed a rower taking part, would have been to at least one rowing event where testing might be in place.
then you read stuff like this,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47954834
Snodgrass wasnt being tested, or refused a test, just decided to swear and be abusive towards the testers instead. 30k fine, probably not even a weeks wages for a premiership footballer.0 -
awavey wrote:gsk82 wrote:What other major sports don't follow the WADA code? I assume boxing doesn't since this is voluntary testing
netball ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/47583646 on the basis the WADA code surely must insist on at least one test in 5 years.
pretty dispiriting list of sports not bothering much with testing there too, appreciate UKAD have finite funds and concentrate on their "intelligence" led approach, but that feels like there are alot of gaps,and I read after the boat race, that they dont test competitors at any stage for the boat race, its just assumed a rower taking part, would have been to at least one rowing event where testing might be in place.
then you read stuff like this,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47954834
Snodgrass wasnt being tested, or refused a test, just decided to swear and be abusive towards the testers instead. 30k fine, probably not even a weeks wages for a premiership footballer.
I think athletics swimming and cycling are the only sports where wada means much.0 -
RFU publish their 2017-18 report boasting a whopping 739 tests in the professional game (that's Premiership, Championship and ladies premiership). https://www.englandrugby.com/news/2017-rfu-anti-doping-report-published/?fbclid=IwAR3NKurtZ-qbqyRZes6Nd5GURbP5NJYu3hluOCRLLFmEqfHihwBPH8EfH6g
Average Premiership squad size including academy players would be at least 55, 45 excluding academy and 12 teams.
So a top level pro-player is still only likely to face one test a year.....0 -
was interesting to note that the BBC didnt really bother going into details, mention any potential advantage these could offer a boxer, nor even question the fact he had failed a test.ShinyHelmut wrote:He’s not messing around; GW1516, HGH, EPO (allegedly)0 -
sherer wrote:
was interesting to note that the BBC didnt really bother going into details, mention any potential advantage these could offer a boxer, nor even question the fact he had failed a test.ShinyHelmut wrote:He’s not messing around; GW1516, HGH, EPO (allegedly)
Probably scared incase he punched their lights out
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davieb78 wrote:
6 months! As Anthony Joshua has pointed out most boxers go that long between fights anyway. It's not like the guy unintentionally took a banned substance in a hay fever cure.0 -
Pross wrote:davieb78 wrote:
6 months! As Anthony Joshua has pointed out most boxers go that long between fights anyway. It's not like the guy unintentionally took a banned substance in a hay fever cure.
Makes a mockery of it, but there are different expectations in different sports i guess.0 -
What happens in Rugby League? Thats always looked a bit, ahem...Dorset Boy wrote:RFU publish their 2017-18 report boasting a whopping 739 tests in the professional game (that's Premiership, Championship and ladies premiership). https://www.englandrugby.com/news/2017-rfu-anti-doping-report-published/?fbclid=IwAR3NKurtZ-qbqyRZes6Nd5GURbP5NJYu3hluOCRLLFmEqfHihwBPH8EfH6g
Average Premiership squad size including academy players would be at least 55, 45 excluding academy and 12 teams.
So a top level pro-player is still only likely to face one test a year.....0 -
What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-say0 -
Sh1t, I've got to submit my essay tomorrow. Mate, can I borrow your's. You know, the one about the Bahrain Grand Prix. I'll change some names and mix paragraphs about. No-one will notice.k1875 wrote:What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-sayTwitter: @RichN950 -
k1875 wrote:What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-say
do you reckon theyll turn up protesting at the British Grand Prix ? be like the mad priest from 2003, McLaren are majority owned by the same Bahrain group, hence the crossover sponsorship.
anyway surprised there wasnt more focus on this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2019/07/01/british-athletes-may-have-escaped-punishment-alleged-doping/0 -
awavey wrote:k1875 wrote:What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-say
do you reckon theyll turn up protesting at the British Grand Prix ? be like the mad priest from 2003, McLaren are majority owned by the same Bahrain group, hence the crossover sponsorship.
anyway surprised there wasnt more focus on this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2019/07/01/british-athletes-may-have-escaped-punishment-alleged-doping/
Give it time
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Alejandrosdog wrote:awavey wrote:k1875 wrote:What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-say
do you reckon theyll turn up protesting at the British Grand Prix ? be like the mad priest from 2003, McLaren are majority owned by the same Bahrain group, hence the crossover sponsorship.
anyway surprised there wasnt more focus on this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2019/07/01/british-athletes-may-have-escaped-punishment-alleged-doping/
Give it time
Basically anyone part of the dodgy Nike funded operation out of Oregon, middle distance stuff, usual teflon .0 -
darkhairedlord wrote:Alejandrosdog wrote:awavey wrote:k1875 wrote:What do you mean there's no doping story this year?!? It's 2 days til the tour starts, we always have a doping story ffs! F*** it, run that piece about Bahrain...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... igners-say
do you reckon theyll turn up protesting at the British Grand Prix ? be like the mad priest from 2003, McLaren are majority owned by the same Bahrain group, hence the crossover sponsorship.
anyway surprised there wasnt more focus on this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/athletics/2019/07/01/british-athletes-may-have-escaped-punishment-alleged-doping/
Give it time
Basically anyone part of the dodgy Nike funded operation out of Oregon, middle distance stuff, usual teflon .
That’s unfair, some people are def clean like Mo Farrah. That his training partners and coach are dodgy is irrelevant. He “don’t know nothing but Britain.” He was apparently standing up for Britain with Robbie Williams against large corporates not paying tax here. Right before exempting himself from tax paid on earnings here.
Then there’s the stuff in Africa.....0 -
Mo Farah def clean? You know this for sure of course? Not saying he isn't but these days I'm super sceptical which is crap but it's the way it is unfortunately.0
