Drugs in other sports and the media.
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But theyre very different situations.KingstonGraham wrote:Gweeds wrote:It’s like a cycling equivalent of Godwin’s Law
No matter the discussion at hand, at some point Vino’sGhost will mention Wiggins and the TDF.
It's more like Tourettes. Much like every time I see Vino'sGhost has posted about not liking dopers, I try to mention Valverde. I just can't help it.
See?
your claim is much like the Trump supporters claiming all politicians lie and break the law so its ok.0 -
Vino'sGhost wrote:
But theyre very different situations.KingstonGraham wrote:Gweeds wrote:It’s like a cycling equivalent of Godwin’s Law
No matter the discussion at hand, at some point Vino’sGhost will mention Wiggins and the TDF.
It's more like Tourettes. Much like every time I see Vino'sGhost has posted about not liking dopers, I try to mention Valverde. I just can't help it.
See?
your claim is much like the Trump supporters claiming all politicians lie and break the law so its ok.
What claim?0 -
And just like Armstrong he’s had his balls cut off.0
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Vino'sGhost wrote:RichN95 wrote:
I would say that there's a difference between 'performance enhancing', which improves a person's peak performance, and 'performance enabling', which allows a person to perform to their normal level (or close to it).Jimmocrates wrote:If it wasn't to enhance his performance,what possible other reason would you have for injecting steroids before champions league final?
Steroids would have reduced inflammation and joint pain.Especially in a 30+ yr old.
Nice to see he views this as "standard medical treatment" though.
Making out it's commonplace in his team/competitors doesn't make it sound any better
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46330624
Pro sport isn't healthy. Injuries are frequent and normal and often persistent. In some sports no-one's ever fully fit. Now the likes of football and rugby may have become too reliant on pain killers, but at least they can have a mature conversation about, unlike cycling and its current state of hysteria about any basic medical remedy.
Except of course that performance enabling has the effect of performance enhancing and even if it were the case that Performance enabling were acceptable the reality is that people would use it as an avenue to cheat, at best its a grey area ppen to abuse.
Like wiggins did when he cheated himself to tdf victory.
Are we handing Wiggins “cheated” TDF win to Froome then?0 -
Poor comment, lance was a wank but making jokes about his cancer is uncalled forVino'sGhost wrote:And just like Armstrong he’s had his balls cut off.0 -
Topper harley wrote:
Poor comment, lance was a rub but making jokes about his cancer is uncalled forVino'sGhost wrote:And just like Armstrong he’s had his balls cut off.
You should have a go at that Juan Pelota guy.0 -
Interestingly, salbutamol (Ventolin) has been shown to limit growth in children. The research didn't extend to cows.0
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KingstonGraham wrote:Topper harley wrote:
Poor comment, lance was a rub but making jokes about his cancer is uncalled forVino'sGhost wrote:And just like Armstrong he’s had his balls cut off.
You should have a go at that Juan Pelota guy.
LOLOLOL gives nice frothy head though0 -
That giant cow is quite something.
News story of the week for me.0 -
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Vino'sGhost wrote:
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:Vino'sGhost wrote:
I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Well, if they don't do something having given them a "second chance" then WADA will lose all credibility, no doubt leading to aggressive pursuit of others to show how tough they are etc.0 -
Surely the FAs extensive drug testing regime, would already have caught this unknown player for them... ?
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awavey wrote:Surely the FAs extensive drug testing regime, would already have caught this unknown player for them... ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46757165
Wouldn't be a doping offence though - bit weird that it would be the FA that takes action.0 -
KingstonGraham wrote:awavey wrote:Surely the FAs extensive drug testing regime, would already have caught this unknown player for them... ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46757165
Wouldn't be a doping offence though - bit weird that it would be the FA that takes action.
absolutely, though the article does highlight there is a blanket ban on recreational drug use in English football, and first offences carry a penalty of a 0-3 month ban, but the point is the FA have repeatedly cited the fact that they are able to "catch" the non doping offence/recreational drug users, and their low numbers of positives, as evidence that their doping offence/performance drug testing scheme is entirely adequate.0 -
i cant even remember the laast PED case for a profesional footballer in the uk. Clearly they have no problem, like tennis.
Maybe they hide in their panic rooms till the testers go away.0 -
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ping-tests
clean Olympics... not clean shocker.0 -
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West HamTwitter: @RichN950 -
He deserves it for either being dense enough to believe in that snake oil bullsh1t they're peddling, or complicit in trying to pimp it out to the ignorant massesRichN95 wrote:
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West HamFat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.0 -
Cruff wrote:
He deserves it for either being dense enough to believe in that snake oil bullsh1t they're peddling, or complicit in trying to pimp it out to the ignorant massesRichN95 wrote:
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West Ham
the woman in the picture looks proper durty0 -
All part of the schitck to sell magic beans. Just the latest version of a wet t shirt model selling carsVino'sGhost wrote:Cruff wrote:
He deserves it for either being dense enough to believe in that snake oil bullsh1t they're peddling, or complicit in trying to pimp it out to the ignorant massesRichN95 wrote:
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West Ham
the woman in the picture looks proper durtyFat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.0 -
Cruff wrote:
All part of the schitck to sell magic beans. Just the latest version of a wet t shirt model selling carsVino'sGhost wrote:Cruff wrote:
He deserves it for either being dense enough to believe in that snake oil bullsh1t they're peddling, or complicit in trying to pimp it out to the ignorant massesRichN95 wrote:
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West Ham
the woman in the picture looks proper durty
Works for me
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Vino'sGhost wrote:Cruff wrote:
All part of the schitck to sell magic beans. Just the latest version of a wet t shirt model selling carsVino'sGhost wrote:Cruff wrote:
He deserves it for either being dense enough to believe in that snake oil bullsh1t they're peddling, or complicit in trying to pimp it out to the ignorant massesRichN95 wrote:
Looking back at this, I feel that Nasri was basically framed and very hard done by.Ben6899 wrote:Samir Nasri looking at a 6month suspension for hydration therapy, while playing at City: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43189672
He only got caught because he's thick enough to pose for a photo.
This opinion has nothing to do with him playing well at West Ham
the woman in the picture looks proper durty
Works for me
Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.0 -
Good grief. A cycling related article by Dan Roan which does not throw in some irrelevant drug gossip. Dan, Dan, are you feeling ok hun?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/470776440 -
I hope Verity has enough sense to turn them down.
but this is an interesting case that popped up this week
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/mot ... 54751.html
the only, so presumably first, motorsport participant that UKAD have ever sanctioned, and they gave him an 8 year ban, which again seems to be a first for the length of the ban, for refusing/evading a drugs test,though he had a previous 2 year ban for cocaine/diuretics.
Paul Bird is probably better known not as a rally driver, but as team owner of Paul Bird Motorsport who run a successful British Superbike team.0 -
World-class athletes push themselves beyond normal limits and transform their bodies through training and diet. But in the wake of various scandals across the world of sport, we know pharmaceuticals can also play a role.
Doping is considered a form of cheating, but should it be? And with the arrival of ‘smart drugs’, this is no longer only a worry for sports. Can we ensure a level playing field, in sports and beyond, or will the advances in drug development always outpace regulation? We explore the philosophy behind all things doping, competing, and cheating.
John William Devine is Lecturer in Sports Ethics and Integrity at Swansea University.
Vanessa Heggie is Lecturer in the History of Medicine at the University of Birmingham
David Papineau is Professor of Philosophy at KCL.
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Nordic World Ski Championships: Five athletes arrested over doping, from the BBC no less...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-sports/473903400
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