Drugs in other sports and the media.

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  • darkhairedlord
    darkhairedlord Posts: 7,180
    RichN95 wrote:
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    Having said that, 5 tests in 7 weeks seems a bit targeted so maybe they've got some intel and are trying to hit the right window.
    They only fight once or twice a year. That's the period they'd be doping. They have considerable down time in between when doping would be mostly pointless.
    Unless it's recreational and he's getting nuttered on ketamine on a thursday night.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    RichN95 wrote:
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    Having said that, 5 tests in 7 weeks seems a bit targeted so maybe they've got some intel and are trying to hit the right window.
    They only fight once or twice a year. That's the period they'd be doping. They have considerable down time in between when doping would be mostly pointless.

    Isn't his complaint that he's in the middle of a training block now for a fight, and his sleep etc is getting disturbed by 6am knocks on the door? So if he was at it it would be now?
  • timothyw
    timothyw Posts: 2,482
    No shit. Very little point taking dope on the day of the fight...
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    Having said that, 5 tests in 7 weeks seems a bit targeted so maybe they've got some intel and are trying to hit the right window.
    They only fight once or twice a year. That's the period they'd be doping. They have considerable down time in between when doping would be mostly pointless.

    Isn't his complaint that he's in the middle of a training block now for a fight, and his sleep etc is getting disturbed by 6am knocks on the door? So if he was at it it would be now?
    Yes. My point was that he's getting tested a lot because of an upcoming fight not because of intel
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    ok get your point Rich.

    Either way he doesn't need to answer the door unless it's in his specified time window.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    awavey wrote:
    ah sorry got my wires slightly crossed :oops: the Cat 3 was a USADA test & ban, so not a BC member obviously and I dont know if their categories align with the UK, it is the CTT time trials they do test amateurs at for sure.

    though there was this guy https://road.cc/content/news/209429-ama ... doping-ban who claimed he had never raced got a visit from UKAD after a tip off when a package of testosterone& nandrolone he'd ordered was intercepted


    Ha what a plonker.

    I never gave a hoot about getting caught cheating when i was riding (at a very amateur level) because A they never tested and B i never knowingly took drugs either PED or social anyway . If i gave a positive it would have been from something i was eating or otc cold remedy or something and frankly if i had a cold i had a lemsip.

    thinking back i imagine the weekly kebab would have contained all sorts

    Quite why professional athletes bleat about being tested is beyond me.

    Hang on, are you saying you took medication to level the playing field if you had a cold? Hypocrite :lol:
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Pross wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    awavey wrote:
    ah sorry got my wires slightly crossed :oops: the Cat 3 was a USADA test & ban, so not a BC member obviously and I dont know if their categories align with the UK, it is the CTT time trials they do test amateurs at for sure.

    though there was this guy https://road.cc/content/news/209429-ama ... doping-ban who claimed he had never raced got a visit from UKAD after a tip off when a package of testosterone& nandrolone he'd ordered was intercepted


    Ha what a plonker.

    I never gave a hoot about getting caught cheating when i was riding (at a very amateur level) because A they never tested and B i never knowingly took drugs either PED or social anyway . If i gave a positive it would have been from something i was eating or otc cold remedy or something and frankly if i had a cold i had a lemsip.

    thinking back i imagine the weekly kebab would have contained all sorts

    Quite why professional athletes bleat about being tested is beyond me.

    Hang on, are you saying you took medication to level the playing field if you had a cold? Hypocrite :lol:


    :lol::lol::lol::lol: ah dam i need to re evaluate my life :)
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    gsk82 wrote:
    Usain Bolt is pissing and moaning on Instagram that he's been given notice that he could be drug tested. He says he's not even professional yet so why should he be tested. Pratt.
    I can see his point. He's a ex athlete who is just messing about playing some friendlies as a publicity stunt. I don't think he's intending to actually play proper games. And he probably doesn't realise that lowly nobodies get tested too.


    Rubbish, hes on a trial.
    As I was saying - publicity stunt to try and bring in some money

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    I actually thought he looked pretty good albeit I watched about 2 minutes of highlights.

    Anyway bit of a tangent but anyone see that Dan Roan has got himself in trouble for being recorded saying what most were probably thinking when it was revealed one of the Leicester City owners personal staff that died when his helicopter crashed was an ex Miss Universe contestant.
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  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I actually thought he looked pretty good albeit I watched about 2 minutes of highlights.

    Anyway bit of a tangent but anyone see that Dan Roan has got himself in trouble for being recorded saying what most were probably thinking when it was revealed one of the Leicester City owners personal staff that died when his helicopter crashed was an ex Miss Universe contestant.

    It will be the last thing she goes down on :lol:
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I actually thought he looked pretty good albeit I watched about 2 minutes of highlights.

    Andy Keogh compared his 1st touch to that of a trampoline.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    Dinyull wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I actually thought he looked pretty good albeit I watched about 2 minutes of highlights.

    Andy Keogh compared his 1st touch to that of a trampoline.

    Yes I saw that but as I say from the highlights he looked pretty good - pace, power, height, good leap, very direct. Obviously it's a couple of minutes from 90 but 2 goals is not a bad return.
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    DeVlaeminck wrote:

    Anyway bit of a tangent but anyone see that Dan Roan has got himself in trouble for being recorded saying what most were probably thinking when it was revealed one of the Leicester City owners personal staff that died when his helicopter crashed was an ex Miss Universe contestant.

    Roan following in the un-distinguished list of smug self satisfied pr4ts, with v little sports knowledge, who've held that 'Sports editor' post - Mihir Bose, David Bond.
  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,719
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:

    Anyway bit of a tangent but anyone see that Dan Roan has got himself in trouble for being recorded saying what most were probably thinking when it was revealed one of the Leicester City owners personal staff that died when his helicopter crashed was an ex Miss Universe contestant.

    Roan following in the un-distinguished list of smug self satisfied pr4ts, with v little sports knowledge, who've held that 'Sports editor' post - Mihir Bose, David Bond.
    Ah David Bond. The man who asked Cavendish at the 2012 Olympics if the GB team (who rode on the front for 200km+) failed because they were too tired after the Tour and might have been better off missing it. Even by his own standards Cavendish looked disgusted.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,699
    Dinyull wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    I actually thought he looked pretty good albeit I watched about 2 minutes of highlights.

    Andy Keogh compared his 1st touch to that of a trampoline.

    Again, I've only seen the highlights but he wasn't totally awful though was he. Yes, it's a gimmick but fair play to him...
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  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.

    Where there's sporting dirt, there's Dan Roan. Gutter-press scandal-monger.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    RichN95 wrote:
    YorkshireRaw wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:

    Anyway bit of a tangent but anyone see that Dan Roan has got himself in trouble for being recorded saying what most were probably thinking when it was revealed one of the Leicester City owners personal staff that died when his helicopter crashed was an ex Miss Universe contestant.

    Roan following in the un-distinguished list of smug self satisfied pr4ts, with v little sports knowledge, who've held that 'Sports editor' post - Mihir Bose, David Bond.
    Ah David Bond. The man who asked Cavendish at the 2012 Olympics if the GB team (who rode on the front for 200km+) failed because they were too tired after the Tour and might have been better off missing it. Even by his own standards Cavendish looked disgusted.

    The man had clearly never seen a cycling road race in his life - he referred to the Cav / Brit pack as being 'unable to keep up' with the break that went 50km out or whatever it was.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.

    Private conversation though, not his fault someone filmed it and released the film. Also I said as much as he was caught saying to my daughter earlier the same day too, I'm sure it had crossed the mind of most.
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    YorkshireRaw wrote:

    The man had clearly never seen a cycling road race in his life - he referred to the Cav / Brit pack as being 'unable to keep up' with the break that went 50km out or whatever it was.


    Reminds me of a runner friend of mine that got into cycling, rode the Marmotte and decided to enter an evening 3/4 road race with a couple of us. He went out the back in the neutralised zone - afterwards he said he thought we were all going off too fast and he was pacing himself so he'd catch and pass us later. Of course we lapped him at least once and this is on a road circuit.
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.

    Private conversation though, not his fault someone filmed it and released the film. Also I said as much as he was caught saying to my daughter earlier the same day too, I'm sure it had crossed the mind of most.

    Were you stood at the site of the incident where people had lost their lives, being paid to report on it (via one of the most regressive tax tools possible), and acting with total indiscretion in a public place where lots of cameras / mics were present?

    The bloke is a total tool - even if you think it, as a TV journo you don't say it.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.

    Private conversation though, not his fault someone filmed it and released the film. Also I said as much as he was caught saying to my daughter earlier the same day too, I'm sure it had crossed the mind of most.

    Private conversation, but still in public in earshot of a load of people who are upset over the deaths of the people concerned in a helicopter crash. I'd like to think I'd show better judgement than that, and I'm not BBC sports editor.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438
    It's fine, Dan didn't mean any offence :roll:

    https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1056973942458642432
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    DeVlaeminck wrote:
    jimmythecuckoo wrote:
    After some of the allegations that Dan Roan has thrown at cycling he needed to be whiter than white.

    In this incident he hasn't and he should probably resign as a result.

    Private conversation though, not his fault someone filmed it and released the film. Also I said as much as he was caught saying to my daughter earlier the same day too, I'm sure it had crossed the mind of most.

    Private conversation, but still in public in earshot of a load of people who are upset over the deaths of the people concerned in a helicopter crash. I'd like to think I'd show better judgement than that, and I'm not BBC sports editor.


    Well I'm sure he'd like to think he'd show better judgement than to be recorded too but occasionally all of us make mistakes.

    What he said was hardly shocking and them laughing about it was not at either of the deceased but more at the shared pretence. To ask for someone to lose their job for that is incredibly harsh.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    If Leicester member of staff had been filmed saying the exact same thing, Roan would have been first in the queue to express outrage them and call for their sacking. Just because he works for the BBC, it doesn't mean he's not as tabloid as they come.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    How nice, the biter bitten.

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    RichN95 wrote:
    If Leicester member of staff had been filmed saying the exact same thing, Roan would have been first in the queue to express outrage them and call for their sacking. Just because he works for the BBC, it doesn't mean he's not as tabloid as they come.

    Lots of replies to this effect. Hardly surprising, given it's spot on.
    Massive hypocrite.

    A recent addition to the replies to his tweet "apology". :)

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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    RichN95 wrote:
    If Leicester member of staff had been filmed saying the exact same thing, Roan would have been first in the queue to express outrage them and call for their sacking. Just because he works for the BBC, it doesn't mean he's not as tabloid as they come.

    He's an utter prick. I can't stand it that people are always looking for a sacking these days. But if him getting sacked means I don't have to see his smug grin or even see his name again, this is worthy of a sacking.
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,784
    As previously posted, he’d be all over this if he’d heard someone else say it. Hopefully he will be shown the error of his ways.
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  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,601
    I want to see Richard Freeman hanging outside broadcasting house harassing him, demanding answers.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,822
    Normally I'm one to not advocate for people to lose their jobs for mistakes, which seems to be the go-to reaction for Twitter kn0bs. But in this instance, it's so misjudged and crass there's little defence.

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