Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    Can somebody please link me to a copy of the report?
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    What does the Hog do now? How do you contest this?

    A breakaway cycling league may be his only play...

    Ferrari was just raking the money in...

    I understand a little better why JV and the Garmin boys didn't give it up earlier...they were dirty as sin.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Moomaloid wrote:
    Can somebody please link me to a copy of the report?

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/109619079/Reasoned-Decision
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Moomaloid wrote:
    Can somebody please link me to a copy of the report?

    http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Armstrongs lawyer on five live now.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Le Commentateur wrote:
    thegibdog wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    I'm struggling to understand why.
    Crocodile tears.

    Bit harsh!
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    mfin wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    All credit to Radio 5. Always eager to maintain balance, they managed to find some chump who still believes Armstrong.

    He was 'special' wasn't he!!!?
    According to him the whole of Austin believes in Lance, so it must be like a place controlled by Scientologists, where any dissent is weeded out. :mrgreen:
    Un uomo solo al commando
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,091
    Slim Boy Fat wrote:
    Armstrongs lawyer on five live now.

    Surely not!?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    mfin wrote:

    [Rider 16]!!! :D ...there's not much to wonder about with [Rider 16], just read up.

    USADA would like your comments redacted

    (Disclaimer: Contador is one of several possibilities for Rider 16)
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,091
    Oh sh1t! Yeh here he is.
  • tarzan13
    tarzan13 Posts: 78
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    tarzan13 wrote:
    gattocattivo wrote:
    tarzan13 wrote:
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...

    Apart from the ones who clearly state that they continued doping after leaving USPS you mean?

    got to correct the above statement, ignore the "it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years".

    Didn't Hincapie state that he stopped doping in 2006? A bit hard to believe that now.... perhaps he reduced his programme.

    Also makes you wonder about Contador...

    I never wonder if Contador doped...

    Always thought he was guilty too, he got away lightly, and still expect him to dope ...
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    so what did LA's lawyer say ?

    What needs to happen now is the UCI need to start to clear out some of the hangers on and team helpers, plus the DSs that are still making this happen today.

    Not read the whole thing yet but again it seems current riders like LLS are still being implicated by this which is the truly sad thing
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    via inrng on twitter:
    Nephew of Francesco Moser cited as a client of Ferrari + Liquigas managers by Bertagnolli deposition

    I bet Gibo told him to tell all, as he's such a good guy. :P

    Theres a comment in the same deposition about Bertagnolli going to Ferrari for testing and mentions something about Pellizzotti, Gasparotto and Possoni. My Italian is shite - anyone know if it infers another (former) Sky rider has previous?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Armstrong's lawyer on mastermind....Magnus Magnusson - your specialized subject "Stating the bleedin obvious" :roll:
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Lawyer seems to be laying it on strong that everyone was at it. Paving the way?
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    I think if this teaches us anything, it's that the concept of damning anyone who hasn't always been clean is just stupid. Why wouldn't you want the experience of guys who experienced the pressure to cheat helping you identify what makes and enables it to happen?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    thanx chaps
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    RichN95 wrote:
    mfin wrote:

    [Rider 16]!!! :D ...there's not much to wonder about with [Rider 16], just read up.

    USADA would like your comments redacted

    (Disclaimer: Contador is one of several possibilities for Rider 16)

    Ah, didn't know that. Im working my way through the rider statements where a load of them are blanked out with numbers!

    Where have you heard he is or might be Rider 16??
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    So what happens to all the prize money won during US Postals time. are we talking jail time here for fraud and cheating ? and Can Bruyneel really be allowed to run Radioshyte next season ?
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Brendan Gallagher on the Telegraph "The evidence the sport has been waiting for"

    How does he sleep at night?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Brendan Gallagher on the Telegraph "The evidence the sport has been waiting for"

    How does he sleep at night?


    Who Pharmstrong or Gallagher 8) ....Is it me or does gallagher look like a "Jakey"
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Brendan Gallagher on the Telegraph "The evidence the sport has been waiting for"

    How does he sleep at night?


    Who Pharmstrong or Gallagher 8) ....Is it me or does gallagher look like a "Jakey"

    My commute takes me down Saltmarket, he's a dapper gent compared to that.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Wee bit of a disagreement between Anthony McCrossan & Brian Smith on twitter. nobody likes an awkward question eh 8)
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 21,927
    Three points:
    1. 6 month off-season bans don't cut it for me. They've been helpful, but not that helpful
    2. Most sophisticated etc... Good line from USADA. A lot of people will like that.
    3. The most damming part against the UCI for me is the bit about Bruyneel having advanced warning about tests.
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Brendan Gallagher on the Telegraph "The evidence the sport has been waiting for"

    How does he sleep at night?


    Who Pharmstrong or Gallagher 8) ....Is it me or does gallagher look like a "Jakey"

    My commute takes me down Saltmarket, he's a dapper gent compared to that.


    Watching the recent Road to glory on Sky it struck me that the Cycling Journo's in the room looked kinda well how can i put this ehh "Hand Picked" was that not a Bruyneel trademark ?
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,091
    The lawyer just trotted out the old 'rigged process' line. Seems a pretty ridiculous defence but guess it's enough to keep the witch hunt idea going for people who won't bother reading even the first few paragraphs of the report.

    I imagine journos are hand picked to some extent because some journos might be a pain in the ass to have around. Like, you wouldn't invite everyone to your party would you, just the people you liked?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    mfin wrote:
    Where have you heard he is or might be Rider 16??

    I haven't. 16 is one of six possible riders (one of which is Contador). I was just being mischievous.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • itisaboutthebike
    itisaboutthebike Posts: 1,120
    No tweets from Phil Leggup since 2nd Oct..................I guess saw the juggernaut coming .....or perhaps he didn't..............

    I've just asked him what the deal is with Pharmstrong..............
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Heavymental wrote:
    The lawyer just trotted out the old 'rigged process' line. Seems a pretty ridiculous defence but guess it's enough to keep the witch hunt idea going for people who won't bother reading even the first few paragraphs of the report.

    I imagine journos are hand picked to some extent because some journos might be a pain in the ass to have around. Like, you wouldn't invite everyone to your party would you, just the people you liked?


    Esp the ones who dont ask you about Dr Leinders in the team or having ex doper like Yates aboard too eh.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Gazzetta67 wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Brendan Gallagher on the Telegraph "The evidence the sport has been waiting for"

    How does he sleep at night?


    Who Pharmstrong or Gallagher 8) ....Is it me or does gallagher look like a "Jakey"

    My commute takes me down Saltmarket, he's a dapper gent compared to that.


    Watching the recent Road to glory on Sky it struck me that the Cycling Journo's in the room looked kinda well how can i put this ehh "Hand Picked" was that not a Bruyneel trademark ?

    In what room?

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