Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    DZ worried that EPO would give him large ears.

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    I'm struggling to understand why.
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  • gattocattivo
    gattocattivo Posts: 500
    tarzan13 wrote:
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...

    Apart from the ones who clearly state that they continued doping after leaving USPS you mean?
  • cal_stewart
    cal_stewart Posts: 1,840
    Escher303 wrote:
    It never occurred to me before and it may be old news, but reading Hincapie's affidavit about what Lance was using before he had cancer, could he have caused it through steroid use?

    HGH would make it worse as it grows everything
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    only up to page 77 so far and even though this probably was a witch hunt I think it was justified.

    Makes you wonder how the Federal investigation was stopped as that seems to be the source of the money they used.

    i don't expect the hog to respond on twitter as he is still awaiting his case being heard but he must be s**tting himself at the moment
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    mfin wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    It makes it easy for the UCI. Ratify the ban and move on.

    But there is nothing in the summary that would make you think McQuaid would be out.

    I agree it makes it easy for the UCI to do that and make naff all statement on it and carry on.

    IF they didnt... well, they'd be opening a massive can of worms for themselves.

    The press would still hammer the UCI anyway I guess.

    I wonder if the delay in releasing the document was all about cleaning it up to make nice with the UCI?

    Questions for the UCI, no doubt...but McQuaid can still draw breath. Lance, see ya!
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    It's sensible. The only reason the UCI would go to CAS is if it was blaming them.

    Or...gasp, perhaps there's no real significant evidence of the UCI being that evil?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    thegibdog wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    I'm struggling to understand why.

    Because its his friends (his words in the context of VdV) who are having to do the perp walk.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    All credit to Radio 5. Always eager to maintain balance, they managed to find some chump who still believes Armstrong.
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    RichN95 wrote:
    All credit to Radio 5. Always eager to maintain balance, they managed to find some chump who still believes Armstrong.

    He was 'special' wasn't he!!!?
  • polocini
    polocini Posts: 201
    Anyone notice that Leipheimers statement is signed off by Tyler Hamiltons ex Mrs. Isn't that a conflict of interests??? Maybe I've just got Lance off!! Gotta be worth a few quid.

    AL
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Well, this business with the UCI, I think the UCI's pointed at a good few times, but most of the doc is testimony and not many people would have much testimony on the UCI I suppose. Still, the doc makes Pat n Hein look right twerps when it mentions them at least.
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    thegibdog wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    I'm struggling to understand why.
    Because its his friends (his words in the context of VdV) who are having to do the perp walk.
    Yeah, maybe I'm misinterpreting his "It's all so sad" comment as being about the whole situation. I would've thought a man who has said how he wants to help the sport would be pleased it's now all coming out into the open but I guess that will take time for him.
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  • tarzan13
    tarzan13 Posts: 78
    gattocattivo wrote:
    tarzan13 wrote:
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...

    Apart from the ones who clearly state that they continued doping after leaving USPS you mean?

    got to correct the above statement, ignore the "it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years".

    Didn't Hincapie state that he stopped doping in 2006? A bit hard to believe that now.... perhaps he reduced his programme.

    Also makes you wonder about Contador...
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    I reckon I got as many results as Tommy D in 2005 and I spent 0 on my training and drank beer all the time.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    tarzan13 wrote:
    gattocattivo wrote:
    tarzan13 wrote:
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...

    Apart from the ones who clearly state that they continued doping after leaving USPS you mean?

    got to correct the above statement, ignore the "it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years".

    Didn't Hincapie state that he stopped doping in 2006? A bit hard to believe that now.... perhaps he reduced his programme.

    Also makes you wonder about Contador...

    I never wonder if Contador doped...
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    tarzan13 wrote:

    Also makes you wonder about Contador...

    Really?

    A guy who's ridden for Saiz, Bruyneel, Astana and Riis, and is "trained" by Pepe Marti - I mean, I'm not sure what there is to wonder about :P
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Incidentally, anybody remember Pantani's deranged scrawling about how the rules should apply to everyone?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Eddie72
    Eddie72 Posts: 33
    Bakunin wrote:
    mfin wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    It makes it easy for the UCI. Ratify the ban and move on.

    But there is nothing in the summary that would make you think McQuaid would be out.

    I agree it makes it easy for the UCI to do that and make naff all statement on it and carry on.

    IF they didnt... well, they'd be opening a massive can of worms for themselves.

    The press would still hammer the UCI anyway I guess.

    I wonder if the delay in releasing the document was all about cleaning it up to make nice with the UCI?

    Questions for the UCI, no doubt...but McQuaid can still draw breath. Lance, see ya!

    Do you really think this is going to be that easy for the UCI to accept?

    Page 161: "the UCI has responded with similar disdain and disinterest towards other cyclists that have tried to bring forth evidence of the serious extent of doping within the peloton"

    Perhaps we've got too used to the stance of McQuaid and others. I'd have thought that for those outside cycling this is pretty damning for a governing body.
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    Eddie72 wrote:
    Bakunin wrote:
    mfin wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    It makes it easy for the UCI. Ratify the ban and move on.

    But there is nothing in the summary that would make you think McQuaid would be out.

    I agree it makes it easy for the UCI to do that and make naff all statement on it and carry on.

    IF they didnt... well, they'd be opening a massive can of worms for themselves.

    The press would still hammer the UCI anyway I guess.

    I wonder if the delay in releasing the document was all about cleaning it up to make nice with the UCI?

    Questions for the UCI, no doubt...but McQuaid can still draw breath. Lance, see ya!

    Do you really think this is going to be that easy for the UCI to accept?

    Page 161: "the UCI has responded with similar disdain and disinterest towards other cyclists that have tried to bring forth evidence of the serious extent of doping within the peloton"

    Perhaps we've got too used to the stance of McQuaid and others. I'd have thought that for those outside cycling this is pretty damning for a governing body.

    Well they wouldvsaybhat wouldn't they. Sounds like they're trying to settle old scores
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    If you're a Roman K or LL Sanchez fan, I'd avoid looking at the docs which are in Italian.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    The Zabriskie stuff brings a tear to your eye
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    It just went on and on and on and on and on for ever and a day.... in the end they all turned on him

    Can you imagine what is going thru larry's head these days?... a hell of his own making, and I think he can't see it.



    are we done now? or is there more?
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    iainf72 wrote:
    If you're a Roman K or LL Sanchez fan, I'd avoid looking at the docs which are in Italian.


    But Gibo's still cool right?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • AchillesLeftKnee
    AchillesLeftKnee Posts: 713
    iainf72 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed it's not really a "The uci is corrupt" type of document
    Not really surprising given where the testimony came from.

    That's not to let the UCI off the hook, but I would have thought any "let's not take the issue to seriously, eh?" discussions would have taken place between the UCI and event organisers, team owners\top management, and maybe sponsors and equipment manufacturers.
    Mangeur
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    tarzan13 wrote:
    gattocattivo wrote:
    tarzan13 wrote:
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...

    Apart from the ones who clearly state that they continued doping after leaving USPS you mean?

    got to correct the above statement, ignore the "it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years".

    Didn't Hincapie state that he stopped doping in 2006? A bit hard to believe that now.... perhaps he reduced his programme.

    Also makes you wonder about Contador...

    Contador!!! :D ...there's not much to wonder about with Contador, just read up.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Wait... What's this? Pepe Marti, Contador's "trainer", had no job on USPS other than Drug Mule?
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    via inrng on twitter:
    Nephew of Francesco Moser cited as a client of Ferrari + Liquigas managers by Bertagnolli deposition

    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    ratsbeyfus wrote:
    via inrng on twitter:
    Nephew of Francesco Moser cited as a client of Ferrari + Liquigas managers by Bertagnolli deposition

    I bet Gibo told him to tell all, as he's such a good guy. :P
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    thegibdog wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    I'm struggling to understand why.
    Crocodile tears.
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