Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    I need more wet wipes

    Speaking of which, is Biking Bernie on the vinegar stroke yet?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,726
    Maybe folks will find Hincapie's affidavit more to to their reasoning?
    http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Hi ... idavit.pdf
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    LangerDan wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    I need more wet wipes

    Speaking of which, is Biking Bernie on the vinegar stroke yet?

    Probably not. I'm not sure he could stomach the fact the Americans got him

    I'm sure Dave B is going to enjoy reading some of the affidavits though.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Page 134... providing information on where he was for Ferrari, going on trips that were in the couple of months, but days later not providing this same information on whereabouts for testing visits hmmmmmm
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    Surely, after reading the affidavits nobody can have any doubts left. Surely.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    USADA collected nine blood samples from Armstrong between February 13, 2009, and April 30, 2012. The WADA database, ADAMS, contains results from another 29 Armstrong blood samples collected by UCI between October 16, 2008 and January 18, 2011.794
    At USADA’s request, these blood test results were examined by Professor Christopher J. Gore, Head of Physiology at the Australian Institute of Sport.795 Prof. Gore observed that a cluster of five Armstrong samples during the 2009 Tour de France and his two samples during the 2010 Tour de France contained an unusually low percentage of reticulocytes.
    Reticulocytes are immature red blood cells created naturally by the body. When an athlete adds additional red blood cells to his circulation by transfusing his own stored blood, the body’s production of reticulocytes is suppressed. This is reflected by a decrease in the athlete’s reticulocyte percentage. When Prof. Gore compared the suppressed reticulocyte percentage in Armstrong’s 2009 and 2010 Tour de France samples to the reticulocyte percentage in his other samples, Prof. Gore concluded that the approximate likelihood of Armstrong’s seven suppressed reticulocyte values during the 2009 and 2010 Tours de France occurring naturally was less than one in a million.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Looks like if you get a ban, like Levi or VDV, you lose all results for that period - So Levi gives up everything from 2000 to 2006
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,438
    Can't be arsed reading - I want graphs.
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  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Levi's statement
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,091
    Turfle wrote:
    Surely, after reading the affidavits nobody can have any doubts left. Surely.

    Case closed innit. What can anyone say? That it's a massive conspiracy to make up mundane details of day to day doping practices? Crazy. Next is to see just how cringeworthy/laughable the responses from the UCI and Lance are.
  • carl_p
    carl_p Posts: 989
    I can't believe that in 2009/10 what with everything he was accused of he was still doping! The utter audacity of the c***
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  • tarzan13
    tarzan13 Posts: 78
    What I still don't buy is that all those long-term dopers all claim they suddenly stopped doping.... and it only seem to have taken place during the USPS years ...
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Carl_P wrote:
    I can't believe that in 2009/10 what with everything he was accused of he was still doping! The utter audacity of the c***

    Why? Why would he have stopped or not done it?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • RoadPainter
    RoadPainter Posts: 375
    Hincapie's affidavit about LA:
    "I continue to be proud to be his friend"

    Present tense, George? Surely you know Lance better than that!
  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    iainf72 wrote:
    I'm sure Dave B is going to enjoy reading some of the affidavits though.
    It could have been a lot worse, though.

    Yates isn't mentioned anywhere - which is a result
    [Rider 4] doping shouldn't be a surprise - in fact didn't they drop their 'no dopers' on the staff policy just before hiring him?
    Rogers is known to have worked with Ferrari already (and that's not added to)
    And the Rabo doctor may be Leinders, but they've got rid of him already.
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  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,125
    LangerDan wrote:
    Levi's statement

    Wonder if any of them imagined that this day would come. Having read that I feel sorry for Levi.
  • carl_p
    carl_p Posts: 989
    iainf72 wrote:
    Carl_P wrote:
    I can't believe that in 2009/10 what with everything he was accused of he was still doping! The utter audacity of the c***

    Why? Why would he have stopped or not done it?

    Most reasonable people would have stopped if only out of fear they would get caught. Lance comes out of retirement so he can cheat some more.
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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    It's impossible not to feel for anyone who's lived a lie for so long.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Carl_P wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Carl_P wrote:
    I can't believe that in 2009/10 what with everything he was accused of he was still doping! The utter audacity of the c***

    Why? Why would he have stopped or not done it?

    Most reasonable people would have stopped if only out of fear they would get caught. Lance comes out of retirement so he can cheat some more.

    I'm not so sure. He needed to compete at a high level. He couldn't do it without doping, he'd never got caught before, therefore is there any great risk?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Good stuff on jurisdiction arguments (used and potential new ones) from the UCI, around pages 160-163
  • lemon63
    lemon63 Posts: 253
    Brailsford now on 5Live
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Has anyone noticed it's not really a "The uci is corrupt" type of document
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tarzan13
    tarzan13 Posts: 78
    Christian vande velde statement
    http://christianvdv.com/blog/christian- ... statement/
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    lemon63 wrote:
    Brailsford now on 5Live

    Let me guess - "oh, look over there, a rabbit" and then gets out of his chair and runs off?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • tarzan13
    tarzan13 Posts: 78
    iainf72 wrote:
    Has anyone noticed it's not really a "The uci is corrupt" type of document
    Not purpose of prosecution. I scanned through the first 180pages. Some of the findings do raise questions about what the UCI knew about it.....
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    It makes it easy for the UCI. Ratify the ban and move on.

    But there is nothing in the summary that would make you think McQuaid would be out.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Millar just sounds unbelievably sad about the whole mess
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    iainf72 wrote:
    It makes it easy for the UCI. Ratify the ban and move on.

    But there is nothing in the summary that would make you think McQuaid would be out.

    I agree it makes it easy for the UCI to do that and make naff all statement on it and carry on.

    IF they didnt... well, they'd be opening a massive can of worms for themselves.

    The press would still hammer the UCI anyway I guess.
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    iainf72 wrote:
    lemon63 wrote:
    Brailsford now on 5Live

    Let me guess - "oh, look over there, a rabbit" and then gets out of his chair and runs off?

    He just said Who's Michael Barry ? Ive never heard of Geert Leinders & Is Sean yates the guy who always sounds if he's drunk 8)

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