Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • jonomc4
    jonomc4 Posts: 891
    A dossier running to more than 1,000 pages accusing Lance Armstrong of being at the centre of the “most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen” is to be published later on Wednesday.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... gency.html
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    oneof1982 wrote:
    So what are the implications for DaveB now that Michael Barry has come out?


    One of my first reactions when that broke today...

    when Landis went public in 2010 he included Barry in his claims. Barry denied it in a statement he posted on his website. DB said that he would question Barry etc. IF Barry lied to DB as he lied in his personal statement, then it will be embarrassing but not catastrophic. But IF it comes to light that he fessed up to DB and DB did nothing....WHOLE different story... :shock:
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,264
    “most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen”
    There are probably some scientists in East Germany preparing to sue Tygart over that statement for loss of reputation. US Postal weren't a patch on the old GDR.
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  • symo
    symo Posts: 1,743
    Alan A wrote:
    BBC 5Live just announced that Tyler Hamilton will be interviewed by them on their Up All Night show @ 1am
    Luckily the BBC have released the iPlayer for radio.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Good point re sky and Barry. Hadnt crossed my mind but it is a good point. Maybe some journos should grow some balls and actually mention stuff like this and question DB as well as asking about the rabo dr investigation. Maybe they are scared by Sky corp. don't like that team one bit.
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  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Good point re sky and Barry. Hadnt crossed my mind but it is a good point. Maybe some journos should grow some balls and actually mention stuff like this and question DB as well as asking about the rabo dr investigation. Maybe they are scared by Sky corp. don't like that team one bit.

    No, really?? Couldnt tell from your posts..you're usually so balanced...
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    jonomc4 wrote:
    A dossier running to more than 1,000 pages accusing Lance Armstrong of being at the centre of the “most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen” is to be published later on Wednesday.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... gency.html


    It sounds as though its the 200 page summary that's going to be posted tonight for public consumption
  • dortmunder
    dortmunder Posts: 101
    Not impressed by Hincapie's statement. he plays it down and makes out he took too much benylin rather being involved in organised, systematic doping of numerous PEDs.
    Mind you, I was never fond of him as a rider either so maybe my judgement is clouded
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    RichN95 wrote:
    “most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen”
    There are probably some scientists in East Germany preparing to sue Tygart over that statement for loss of reputation. US Postal weren't a patch on the old GDR.

    Balco would have to be right up there too - distribution across multiple sports and the custom synthesis of steroids.

    Plus I would guess that there are raft of other programmes that sport has not (or choses not to) seen.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    oneof1982 wrote:
    So what are the implications for DaveB now that Michael Barry has come out?

    Nothing. I remember when Floyd said about Barry, Dave said "we asked him and he denied it" and that was that. LangerDan (I think) pointed out we should just no waste time on tests and ask people. Save a lot of time and money.

    Guess it failed.

    I hope Milar and Barry have got a "sorry" card in the post to Floyd.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • fidgetyphil
    fidgetyphil Posts: 80
    The USPS Team doping conspiracy was professionally designed to groom and pressure athletes to use dangerous drugs, to evade detection, to ensure its secrecy and ultimately gain an unfair competitive advantage through superior doping practices.

    Interesting use of language. gain an unfair advantage through superior doping, not through doping per se
  • oneof1982
    oneof1982 Posts: 703
    Well, Michael Barry is still smiling on the team photos on the Sky website. Catch it while you can. :lol:
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    guess now it's jyst waiting for the 200 pages and then to dissect that. I expect at some point the whole 1000 pages will leak too.

    Yes George could have said more in his public but he's retired now and said the truth where it was needed.

    Anyone been on the clinic yet, I expect the site to go into melt down
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    dnlbenson: USADA: Chance of Armstrong's Tours in 2009 and 2010 being clean? One in a million. #USADA
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    sherer wrote:
    guess now it's jyst waiting for the 200 pages and then to dissect that. I expect at some point the whole 1000 pages will leak too.

    Yes George could have said more in his public but he's retired now and said the truth where it was needed.

    Anyone been on the clinic yet, I expect the site to go into melt down

    So far it's mostly people believing a (very obviously) fake Wiggins quote.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Enjoy

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/109619079/Reasoned-Decision
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Turfle
    Turfle Posts: 3,762
    iainf72 wrote:
    Enjoy

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/109619079/Reasoned-Decision

    Here goes nothing.
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    Better get reading!
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,145
    Talking about it on Radio 5 Live now.
  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    After 10 pages, and I started at year 2000, I got bored and wondered how a guy like Vaughters can still have a role in cycling ... Especially in this new structure he's trying to promote ...

    They're all f'cked ... or should be ...
  • lemon63
    lemon63 Posts: 253
    Talking about it on Radio 5 Live now.

    They had Tony Dolye (ex-pro) on earlier, his view was similar to Ligget's. Still got their heads in the sand.
  • secretsqirrel
    secretsqirrel Posts: 2,145
    lemon63 wrote:
    Talking about it on Radio 5 Live now.

    They had Tony Dolye (ex-pro) on earlier, his view was similar to Ligget's. Still got their heads in the sand.

    They were just talking to Jeremy Whittle and Simon Brotherton. The tone was not sympathetic!
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    TALKSport right now - Gary Imlach being interviewed over the phone
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,094
    I'm only on page 8! Surely there can be no burying of heads in the sand now!?

    ....The evidence in the case against Lance Armstrong is beyond strong; it is as strong as, or stronger than, that presented in any case brought by USADA over the initial twelve years of USADA’s existence. As explained below, the evidence is overwhelming that Mr. Armstrongand his team director, team doctors, team trainers and teammates cheated throughout the 1998 – 2010 time period...
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Reading through the affidavits.. the accounts by the likes of Dave Zabriskie are almost over-whelming...it was a brutalisation of young athletes in turn...incredibly sad...
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Page107

    Bloody hell
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    iainf72 wrote:
    Page107

    Bloody hell


    Jesus! $1,029,754.31
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,462
    iainf72 wrote:
    Page107

    Bloody hell


    Put down '50 Shades' and read the USADA report.
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  • oneof1982
    oneof1982 Posts: 703
    iainf72 wrote:
    Page107

    Bloody hell

    How can you read it so fast? Are you on drugs?

    Am only on page 45.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    Page 9:


    Paul Scott, an individual residing in Southern California, provided information to USADA Science Director Dr.Daniel Eichner confirming that Mr. Landis had information relevant to USADA’s investigation of doping in the Southern California cycling community and also providing information about the involvement of Mr. Armstrong and Mr. Landis in doping on the U.S. Postal Service Team.On April 12, 2010, after communicating with Mr. Paul Scott about Mr. Landis’information, Dr. Eichner met with Mr. Scott and received additional information from Mr. Scottabout the U.S. Postal Service cycling team doping practices. In this meeting Mr. Scott describedin great detail the doping program on the U.S. Postal Service team, including its use of bloodtransfusions, and the involvement of Mr. Armstrong, Dr. Ferrari, Mr. Bruyneel, Mr. Marti, Dr.del Moral, and a number of riders, including Mr. Landis

    Is this the same Paul Scott who ran the Agency for Cycling Ethics and did the internal monitoring programmes for Garmin and , I think, HTC?
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'

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