Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Lancew wrote:
    The_Boy wrote:
    Can we start flogging people who start new Lance threads?

    Edit: maybe add a 'needlessly' in there. Obviously if it turns out to actually be newsworthy beyond the industry that is Lance and Lance-Related Threads then that would be fair game.

    Can I start threads about myself as a non-lance-armstrong-lance?
    No. You will have to change your name.

    Suitable alternatives would be Cornelius P. Augustus III, Dushawn Gingrich, The Grand Poobah of Tangiers, Charlotte Elizabeth Williams or Mr Ploppy.
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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
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    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • lancew
    lancew Posts: 680
    From now on please refer to me as Carlos Spiceyweener

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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    'sup Carlos
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Same thing. What a clucking muppet. Hopefully ISIS will get hold of him.

    After the events that came to light yesterday this is a moronic thing to post.

    Apologies if I offended anyone, I genuinely hadn't seen the latest ISIS horror but that is no excuse.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    The cycling podcast guys hit the nail on the head this week on this one
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    This car crash
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/lance-arm ... uffer?r=US

    Is it me, or do we just see this as another example of him escaping the testers again
    - "blow into this bag, please sir" perhaps ?

    And getting someone else to take the blame - vintage Lance...
  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    only seen the crash reported on UK media. Anyone know what the US take on this was ?

    Seen The Road Ahead footage and again he still comes off as someone who is out for himself. I can fully understand why he can't compete.

    Surely also he can enter a fun run like the London \ Boston marathon as a charity entrant, surely only the elite \ pro athletes are covered by the WADA code.
  • Manc33
    Manc33 Posts: 2,157
    What percentage of people think its not fair that he had all his titles taken away?

    I thought it was over the top but, they were always going to "have to" take them away. :roll:

    My sig here used to say:

    Lance (doping) average speed: 26 MPH
    Anyone else (doping) average speed: 25 MPH

    So then Lance was faster/better. I don't care if he was doping when everyone else was.

    What they need to do is incorporate doping into the sport and have done with it. Then they could "retroactively" give Lance his titles back. Aren't they just making an example of him? He was an elite above the elites.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,658
    Manc33 wrote:
    What percentage of people think its not fair that he had all his titles taken away?

    I thought it was over the top but, they were always going to "have to" take them away. :roll:

    My sig here used to say:

    Lance (doping) average speed: 26 MPH
    Anyone else (doping) average speed: 25 MPH

    So then Lance was faster/better. I don't care if he was doping when everyone else was.

    What they need to do is incorporate doping into the sport and have done with it. Then they could "retroactively" give Lance his titles back. Aren't they just making an example of him? He was an elite above the elites.

    I think this debate has been adequately covered in the preceding 319 pages.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    could be going to jail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31125348
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    sjmclean wrote:
    could be going to jail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31125348
    He won't go to jail. He's famous, rich and white. He'd have to go the full Lindsay Lohan to end up in chokey.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Manc33 wrote:
    What percentage of people think its not fair that he had all his titles taken away?

    I thought it was over the top but, they were always going to "have to" take them away. :roll:

    My sig here used to say:

    Lance (doping) average speed: 26 MPH
    Anyone else (doping) average speed: 25 MPH

    So then Lance was faster/better. I don't care if he was doping when everyone else was.

    What they need to do is incorporate doping into the sport and have done with it. Then they could "retroactively" give Lance his titles back. Aren't they just making an example of him? He was an elite above the elites.

    I think this debate has been adequately covered in the preceding 319 pages.

    You should, erm, have a look at this post by Manc33 on the LDTA fool - viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13015383

    If I recall correctly, he also has similar paranoid delusions about SRAM Cassettes...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • menthel
    menthel Posts: 2,484
    ddraver wrote:
    No tA Doctor wrote:
    Manc33 wrote:
    What percentage of people think its not fair that he had all his titles taken away?

    I thought it was over the top but, they were always going to "have to" take them away. :roll:

    My sig here used to say:

    Lance (doping) average speed: 26 MPH
    Anyone else (doping) average speed: 25 MPH

    So then Lance was faster/better. I don't care if he was doping when everyone else was.

    What they need to do is incorporate doping into the sport and have done with it. Then they could "retroactively" give Lance his titles back. Aren't they just making an example of him? He was an elite above the elites.

    I think this debate has been adequately covered in the preceding 319 pages.

    You should, erm, have a look at this post by Manc33 on the LDTA fool - viewtopic.php?f=40013&t=13015383

    If I recall correctly, he also has similar paranoid delusions about SRAM Cassettes...

    And quicklinks...
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    sjmclean wrote:
    could be going to jail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31125348

    If you turn the screw too tight, it might break...

    Meaning public opinion might change if they go too hard on him. It's in nobody's interest... he made a good point the other night... not being allowed to run a marathon for charity is simply pathetic...
    left the forum March 2023
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    He should go on Dancing with the Stars (US version of Strictly). Then he gets to train and compete and maybe rehabiliate his image. And they're not signed up to WADA either.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,658
    RichN95 wrote:
    He should go on Dancing with the Stars (US version of Strictly). Then he gets to train and compete and maybe rehabiliate his image. And they're not signed up to WADA either.

    And you sure that fits the profile of a man that habitually steps on people's toes?
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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    sjmclean wrote:
    could be going to jail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31125348

    If you turn the screw too tight, it might break...

    Meaning public opinion might change if they go too hard on him. It's in nobody's interest... he made a good point the other night... not being allowed to run a marathon for charity is simply pathetic...
    As I said above I don't think he is banned from that. Anyone can enter the London or Boston marathon as a fun runner. Surely it's only the pro athletes that have to comply with the wada code
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    I think the US Athletics thingum do try and control a lot more there though. For example Tygart stopped him riding George Hincapie's Sportive, which I assume is not at all a UCI race but still sanctioned by US Cycling for insurance or something about all that noise....

    So quite possibly no he cant just be a fun runner at the Boston or NY marathon
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    sherer wrote:
    As I said above I don't think he is banned from that. Anyone can enter the London or Boston marathon as a fun runner. Surely it's only the pro athletes that have to comply with the wada code

    Apparently he can't...
    left the forum March 2023
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,317
    RichN95 wrote:
    He should go on Dancing with the Stars (US version of Strictly). Then he gets to train and compete and maybe rehabiliate his image. And they're not signed up to WADA either.

    If they invite him, he should go for it
    left the forum March 2023
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    RichN95 wrote:
    He should go on Dancing with the Stars (US version of Strictly). Then he gets to train and compete and maybe rehabiliate his image. And they're not signed up to WADA either.

    Brilliant suggestion in all respects!
    @JaunePeril

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  • sherer
    sherer Posts: 2,460
    ddraver wrote:
    I think the US Athletics thingum do try and control a lot more there though. For example Tygart stopped him riding George Hincapie's Sportive, which I assume is not at all a UCI race but still sanctioned by US Cycling for insurance or something about all that noise....

    So quite possibly no he cant just be a fun runner at the Boston or NY marathon
    Wasn't aware of that. He could possibly still do London, Paris , Berlin or countless others as a fun run for charity. He has the money to fly over to them
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,439
    As golf is now an Olympic sport does it also fall under the ban?
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,361
    TailWindHome wrote:
    As golf is now an Olympic sport does it also fall under the ban?

    He would have to take even more drugs to get that handicap down.
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  • vinnymarsden
    vinnymarsden Posts: 560
    I have never liked Lance, BUT all the things he is accused of doing, all the people/organisations coming after him…correct me if I'm wrong or plain naive…didn't everyone involved with him all do RATHER well out of the Lance gravy train, and theres one thing for sure..I don't see those people giving anything back, or being hounded in court.
    For a L O N G time, everyone involved with LA rode his shirt tails, and everyone lived life high on the hog, no one felt bad at the time, nobody questioned the means used to achieve his "miracle" 7 wins…Its only now, now that he is outed that everyone wants to throw him under the bus, dissasocaite themselves from him and pretend he didn't exist.
    It is rather sad that the entire drug culture that prevailed in cycling at the time has been firmly dropped on the shoulders of one person, as arrogant/obnoxious as he was, it is not solely his doing.
    Give the guy a break, he's 43, let him race in Little league races, let him run for his mums charities.
    There are people who have carried out REAL atrocities in the world, who go untouched, lets not lose focus, that cycling is ONLY a sport, Lance's story in its own way is sad, and should be a good deterrent to any young pro considering any such foolishness!!
  • deer_dance
    deer_dance Posts: 44
    VinnyMarsden wrote:
    I have never liked Lance, BUT all the things he is accused of doing, all the people/organisations coming after him…correct me if I'm wrong or plain naive…didn't everyone involved with him all do RATHER well out of the Lance gravy train, and theres one thing for sure..I don't see those people giving anything back, or being hounded in court.
    For a L O N G time, everyone involved with LA rode his shirt tails, and everyone lived life high on the hog, no one felt bad at the time, nobody questioned the means used to achieve his "miracle" 7 wins…Its only now, now that he is outed that everyone wants to throw him under the bus, dissasocaite themselves from him and pretend he didn't exist.
    It is rather sad that the entire drug culture that prevailed in cycling at the time has been firmly dropped on the shoulders of one person, as arrogant/obnoxious as he was, it is not solely his doing.
    Give the guy a break, he's 43, let him race in Little league races, let him run for his mums charities.
    There are people who have carried out REAL atrocities in the world, who go untouched, lets not lose focus, that cycling is ONLY a sport, Lance's story in its own way is sad, and should be a good deterrent to any young pro considering any such foolishness!!

    Looks like Lance is still manipulating the weak-minded. I honestly didn't think anyone would be daft enough to fall for that performance about his mum's hypothetical cancer.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Matt Slater wrote:
    Hi, this is a message to "deejay", who appears to have me badly confused with somebody else.

    I was not a moderator on the BBC's 606 pages and I have never blocked/unfollowed/ignored/whatevered anybody, apart from one particularly potty-mouthed Rangers fan during that club's lurch towards financial ruin.

    If I recall rightly, we outsourced the moderation of 606 to a third party. It wasn't my area, but I think the site was effectively self-policed by the site's users. If somebody complained/flagged something up, the moderators looked at it.

    Also, as far as I can recall, I did not write anything about Lance Armstrong on a 606 page. If you know differently, can you send me the link? Can you also send me a link to a single "pro-Lance" story prior to the pieces I wrote last week?
    The 606 forum closed in November 2006 and had attracted people from around the world because in the last century the BBC was one of the few international media sites. I along with many others were moderated or banned when posting about the ridiculous performances of Armstrong and others but at no time did you write anything negative because your knowledge of cycle racing was very limited. (so you could be right about what you wrote, rubbish was the general opinion)
    Another forum was started by several hundred disenchanted 606 members which banned any moderation.
    This got a little out of hand with the New Found Freedom of Speech but these days it operates very much as this forum.
    Fan Boi, of course you are, that is why he made you welcome to spin his yarns.
    The fact that you are so eager to interview him and present a very, very sympathetic report about the unfortunate position he finds himself in. This he brought on himself with various Ugly means he had at his disposal that you could not understand.
    It was the United States Sports Administrators that Banned him completely from 1997 onwards, and then placed the UCI in a position that they had no alternative but to sanction the ban world wide.
    He should be left to ROT, but no you a Fan Boi still think that is unreasonable and will keep using the BBC to further your cause to give him sympathy with the general public.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    joe2008 wrote:
    YAWN
    Did you fall asleep then when that BBC program was on.?? ......I Did.
    Is it all before your time or are you also a Fan Boi.?? either way you deserve your sleep.

    I too thought I could sleep without any interest in Texas (except the Aggies) but the BBC and this guy want him to be Front Page again.
    The cycle racing is about to start next week with the first 1HC in Europe ie Trofeo Laigueglia on the 19th Feb and following that on the 28th Feb another 1HC event Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, but the BBC won't know that.

    We all hope we might get closure with the Texan in the USA Law Courts this year. ZZZZZZZ
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • stu-bim
    stu-bim Posts: 384
    TailWindHome wrote:
    As golf is now an Olympic sport does it also fall under the ban?

    PGA is not sanctioned by WADA
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