Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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Trevolta?...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0
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bockers wrote:But here is the nub. Why did Armstrong finally confess? I can’t see a single redeeming feature of it. He has not fully confessed and is not fully co-operating with the bigger investigation into doping and the UCI investigation. Therefore he will never get a reduced sentence. So why, what is in it for him?
Who knows for sure? And speculating about motives driven by normal human emotions would seem problematic with this specimen.
I favour the bigger-picture theories. This chap has a demonstrated ability to generate mega bucks: $100M+ (making some heroic assumptions, and not all for him directly). Such sums attract powerful associates, and absolutely top-notch advice on how to keep the cash cascading. So I think this is the start of a reputation rehab process with the ultimate objective of restarting the money engine via politics/endorsements/celebrity... The stuff about competing again comes way down the list....a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.0 -
Jeez, Biking Bernie would have loved this as an avatar.
This one's for you.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01 ... _hp_ref=uk“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
I believe the reasons to come clean are to do with his children and to show Tygart he has lots he can give to usada.
Best he keeps some bargaining chips. See oprah as a way rescue his rep and future in the usa.0 -
So it's being reported today that Thomas Dekker is now willing to give 'full extent of my knowledge, names, dates and details to Dutch anti-dopig authority
So Thomas, didnt fancy doing that at the time you were done...? :roll:
Lets see what he now has to say about Cecchini, and also the HumanPlasma thing.0 -
http://www.news10.net/news/local/articl ... -a-lawsuit
SACRAMENTO, CA - A daring move in the courts followed Lance Armstrong's stunning confession last week to Oprah.
A Sacramento political analyst is part of a class action lawsuit against the world-famous cyclist. The lawsuit alleges that Armstrong made numerous lies and false claims in his inspirational 2005 book.
Rob Stutzman, the former Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, and more than 100 others filed suit against Armstrong and three publishing groups - Random House, Crown Publishing and the Penguin Group - in the class action complaint.
The suit claims misrepresentations in Armstrong's book, It's Not about the Bike, My Journey Back to Life and Every Second Counts.
Stutzman and another plaintiff, Jonathan Wheeler, a professional chef and life-long cycling enthusiast, claim that they recommended the compelling book to several friends. The plaintiffs claim they would not have bought the books if they knew the true facts of Armstrong's misconduct and his admitted involvement in the sports doping scandal.
Everybody is piling in now.0 -
fidgetyphil wrote:http://www.news10.net/news/local/article/226390/2/How-Armstrongs-book-of-lies-sparked-a-lawsuit
SACRAMENTO, CA - A daring move in the courts followed Lance Armstrong's stunning confession last week to Oprah.
A Sacramento political analyst is part of a class action lawsuit against the world-famous cyclist. The lawsuit alleges that Armstrong made numerous lies and false claims in his inspirational 2005 book.
What is it about Americans that they want to sue all the time.
There's plenty of people who should be suing Armstrong, but not people who read his book and are a bit upset!
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fidgetyphil wrote:http://www.news10.net/news/local/article/226390/2/How-Armstrongs-book-of-lies-sparked-a-lawsuit
SACRAMENTO, CA - A daring move in the courts followed Lance Armstrong's stunning confession last week to Oprah.
A Sacramento political analyst is part of a class action lawsuit against the world-famous cyclist. The lawsuit alleges that Armstrong made numerous lies and false claims in his inspirational 2005 book.
Stutzman and another plaintiff, Jonathan Wheeler, a professional chef and life-long cycling enthusiast, claim that they recommended the compelling book to several friends. The plaintiffs claim they would not have bought the books if they knew the true facts of Armstrong's misconduct and his admitted involvement in the sports doping scandal.
Everybody is piling in now.
Think I'd actually be rooting for LA in this one. I'm not a vet, but I have noticed that there are far more horse's asses than there are actual horses.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0 -
Motoman needs to see inside a courtroom. Also LA implicted Ferrari on Oprah straight after the sca deposition segment with "most of my answers would be different today"0
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fidgetyphil wrote:http://www.news10.net/news/local/article/226390/2/How-Armstrongs-book-of-lies-sparked-a-lawsuit
SACRAMENTO, CA - A daring move in the courts followed Lance Armstrong's stunning confession last week to Oprah.
A Sacramento political analyst is part of a class action lawsuit against the world-famous cyclist. The lawsuit alleges that Armstrong made numerous lies and false claims in his inspirational 2005 book.
Rob Stutzman, the former Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, and more than 100 others filed suit against Armstrong and three publishing groups - Random House, Crown Publishing and the Penguin Group - in the class action complaint.
The suit claims misrepresentations in Armstrong's book, It's Not about the Bike, My Journey Back to Life and Every Second Counts.
Stutzman and another plaintiff, Jonathan Wheeler, a professional chef and life-long cycling enthusiast, claim that they recommended the compelling book to several friends. The plaintiffs claim they would not have bought the books if they knew the true facts of Armstrong's misconduct and his admitted involvement in the sports doping scandal.
Everybody is piling in now.
I'm going to sue JK Rowling and all of those involved in punlishing Harry Potter. I wouldn't have bought the books if I had realised there was no such thing as wizards with magical powers.0 -
Their best seller.0 -
An alternative Oprah interview. The end is awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... UKZD6eqgo#0 -
"Forget Armstrong" says Le Blaireau.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/french-icon-dismisses-armstrong-furore-20130124-2d930.html"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Sett the Badger on him! 0
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Richmond Racer wrote:Sett the Badger on him!
The badger was one of the first to use clipless pedals (if not the first).0 -
Trev The Rev wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:Sett the Badger on him!
The badger was one of the first to use clipless pedals (if not the first).
Indeed, he had a role in developing and testing them. And a pretty sweet cut of sales too.
Are you against those too?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:"Forget Armstrong" says Le Blaireau.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/french-icon-dismisses-armstrong-furore-20130124-2d930.html
yeah nothing to see here move on.... is that it?"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Mega pfffffftt from the Badger0
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Trev The Rev wrote:Richmond Racer wrote:Sett the Badger on him!
The badger was one of the first to use clipless pedals (if not the first).
Indeed, he had a role in developing and testing them. And a pretty sweet cut of sales too.
Are you against those too?
Not against them but I think their performance benefit is overstated. I wish he had been involved in developing the Look Keo Power Pedals, they might have been better if he had.0 -
mididoctors wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:"Forget Armstrong" says Le Blaireau.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/french-icon-dismisses-armstrong-furore-20130124-2d930.html
yeah nothing to see here move on.... is that it?
I think Hinault's antipathy to Armstrong goes beyond that. He was pretty scathing when the reasoned decision came out too. Within the confines of working for the Tour, I think he's as near called him a twunt as he can."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:mididoctors wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:"Forget Armstrong" says Le Blaireau.
Within the confines of working for the Tour, I think he's as near called him a twunt as he can.
coming from him that means almost nothing
the observation I have about the whole clusterfwck is how those close to the epicenter are absolutley clueless about the perception mere onlookers have. They are IMO almost disbarred from having an opinion of merit by virtue of their narrow bias.
those internet forum people were all over this issue way ahead of any curve this lot were on. Its not so much a case of how stupid do they think people are as much as how little they see their own crass dumbness..."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Hinault had a part in this... everyone did"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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mididoctors wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:mididoctors wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:"Forget Armstrong" says Le Blaireau.
Within the confines of working for the Tour, I think he's as near called him a twunt as he can.
coming from him that means almost nothing
the observation I have about the whole clusterfwck is how those close to the epicenter are absolutley clueless about the perception mere onlookers have. They are IMO almost disbarred from having an opinion of merit by virtue of their narrow bias.
those internet forum people were all over this issue way ahead of any curve this lot were on. Its not so much a case of how stupid do they think people are as much as how little they see their own crass dumbness...
I would agree, the nearest parallel I can think of would be the MPs expenses scandal a few years back. In that, the whole Westminster Village was telling us this was nothing to get upset about, a mere administrative error, they'd pay back the money and it was our fault for underpaying them...
The public was way ahead on the issue, rightly incensed and the political blogs reflected this mood and undertook the invesigative journalism role with much more gusto.
I still think that, regardless of his "insider" status, Hinault can't stand Armstrong."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:
I still think that, regardless of his "insider" status, Hinault can't stand Armstrong.
And he is not alone there"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
mididoctors wrote:disgruntledgoat wrote:
I still think that, regardless of his "insider" status, Hinault can't stand Armstrong.
And he is not alone there
Yeah, form a disorderly queue0 -
Would've been good to see Hinault push lance off the podium like he did the protester a few years back. Maybe that's what they should do when they strip them of the titles, have Hinault unzip the jersey, rip it off them and then throw them off the podium0
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Banksy on Lance;
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