Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • lloyd_bower
    lloyd_bower Posts: 664
    MrTapir wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Am happy. This is not limited confession in terms of admiting he doped in all of his TDFs. But he was short in detail...but he will confess in phases..this is a process. Contrition not shown...but he is gonna bury a load of people when in the USADA and qui tam case or at Truth com. Clean in 2009?

    Just reading a bit on the Guardian's page, it says that in reply to the question whether he doped in 2009 and 2010, he said "absolutely not", which contradicts the USADA verdict. He said that he stopped doping in 2005, 8 years ago. Isn't the statute of limitations also 8 years? Absolutely coincidentally of course.

    I predict that in 2018 he will admit to doping in 09 and 10 tours.

    There's not a damn chance he wasn't doping in 09' & 10. 4 years older and yet finishing 3rd, Director Sportive the same Bruyneel again, the Tour winner a doper and his team. Yeah, sure he didn't dope!

    Not seen the interview yet, but from reading about it, nothing new or surprising.
  • Trev The Rev
    Trev The Rev Posts: 1,040
    It is not that long ago there were loads of "Lance never failed a drug test" Armstrong apologists all over the place.

    Where are they now?
  • Gazzetta67
    Gazzetta67 Posts: 1,890
    Trev The Rev wrote:
    It is not that long ago there were loads of "Lance never failed a drug test" Armstrong apologists all over the place.

    Where are they now?

    + 1 Trev Yes were are Moray Gub & Paul Cuthbert these days ???? Maybe out the back burning their Motorola/USPS/Discovery/Radioshack jerseys :mrgreen:
  • gsvbagpuss
    gsvbagpuss Posts: 272
    What makes me most depressed today (although not at all surprised) is that I keep thinking of the countless planning meetings he would have had before this, prepping every answer "we can tell that bit of truth, but keep lying about this one" etc.

    It's deliberate and calculated scheming and cheating, off the bike just like it was on the bike. I'm loving that #doprah was trending this morning though!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Did Jar Jar Binks turn up?

    Stuart O'Grady was funny on SSN: "With all the evidence he had to come out of the closet" - now that would have been something nobody saw coming.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • epc06
    epc06 Posts: 216
    Trev The Rev wrote:
    It is not that long ago there were loads of "Lance never failed a drug test" Armstrong apologists all over the place.

    Where are they now?

    Funny, a certain radio station is doing the story to death now. A number of weeks ago several of their reporters were saying that very thing.."never failed a drugs test etc".
  • tommasi
    tommasi Posts: 40
    ddraver wrote:
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    "I view Michele Ferrari as a good man. And I still do,"

    :shock:

    If he did nt view it as cheating, did nt view it as wrong, did nt feel bad or thought it was "cyclists do", then Ferrari did nt do anything wrong in his eyes...

    Why would'nt he think Ferrari is a good man? he wouldn't be so wealthy and famous without him.
  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Anyone heard from the guy with the Livestrong tattoo and replica Livestrong bike?
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    I didnt see the interview in full cos I couldnt be ars^d to drag myself out of bed at 2am, but I followed the Twatter noise. Did he say that CVV doped on other teams? I'm sure I saw ref to this on Twatters.
  • k-dog
    k-dog Posts: 1,652
    ^ yeah, basically. He was talking about the implication that he was forcing people to dope to stay on the team (which he denied) and part of his evidence was that these people continued to dope even when they had changed to another team.
    I'm left handed, if that matters.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    EPC06 wrote:
    Trev The Rev wrote:
    It is not that long ago there were loads of "Lance never failed a drug test" Armstrong apologists all over the place.

    Where are they now?

    Funny, a certain radio station is doing the story to death now. A number of weeks ago several of their reporters were saying that very thing.."never failed a drugs test etc".

    Not just reporters...
    Hein Verbruggen, May 2011 wrote:
    I repeat again: Lance Armstrong has never used doping. Never, never, never. And I say this not because I am a friend of his, because that is not true. I say it because I'm sure.
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • GeorgeShaw
    GeorgeShaw Posts: 764
    Bo Duke wrote:
    LA was very, very calculating. He 'regrets' for sure but emotionally he was in charge all the way through. He didn't incriminate anyone, he focused on himself.

    Its a set up. He's lost his TdF titles so the only thing left is damage limitation, ie hold onto his millions. Best way to do that, admit all then leave every other rider, team and UCI sweating whether he will whistleblow on them. I don't expect much from the second episode.

    After that he'll negotiate: I'll spill the beans but I want my money untouched and to be cleared for Triathlon.

    His 'opening up' is to show everyone he's touched that he's willing to spew - how much he spews is upto them if they don't give him what he wants.

    This guy is Hannibal Lecters lil' brother.

    This. It's about control. Lance has always been about me me me and control.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    k-dog wrote:
    ^ yeah, basically. He was talking about the implication that he was forcing people to dope to stay on the team (which he denied) and part of his evidence was that these people continued to dope even when they had changed to another team.



    Ohhh. Wonder wheher we'll see a response from CVV...nah, probably Vaughters, he tries to fend off the flack
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Just watched the video of Betsy's reaction....

    Lance had better hope to God that he's never made to stay alone in a room with her until she's done with him
  • le_patron
    le_patron Posts: 494
    He's a sociopath.

    Crap for cycling, but at least he was relatively contained.

    I feel sorry for the kids.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Just watched the video of Betsy's reaction....

    Lance had better hope to God that he's never made to stay alone in a room with her until she's done with him

    Here it is for everyone else

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTrkBRwT5Uc
  • cornerblock
    cornerblock Posts: 3,228
    At least he never called her fat though! :shock: :roll:
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Anyone posted this yet?

    Cav with 'F-off'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -PGsHoVYTk
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Full interview if not posted:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43EE9I8ZMFc
    Contador is the Greatest
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Lots of peoples ego's bruised today.

    Lots of people vindicated.

    And WHERE IS BIKING BERNIE. Hope you are enjoying yourself!
    Contador is the Greatest
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Anyone posted this yet?

    Cav with 'F-off'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -PGsHoVYTk

    The problem is that your average journalist's interviewing style is akin to this (from 0:12): http://vimeo.com/19044808
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Cav's just tweeted: 'Too much to write about my feelings on the @lancearmstrong interview in 140 characters. I'll write an article and post a link when it's done.'

    Let's see what he writes, but whatever he does there'll be an battalion of critics. It's a no-win situation.
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Pat McQuaid’s statement in full:
    ...
    “Lance Armstrong has confirmed there was no collusion or conspiracy between the UCI and Lance Armstrong. There were no positive tests which were covered up and he has confirmed that the donations made to the UCI were to assist in the fight against doping.
    ...
    “However, Lance Armstrong also rightly said that cycling is a completely different sport today than it was 10 years ago. In particular the UCI's introduction of the biological passport in 2008 – the first sports federation to do so - has made a real difference in the fight against doping.

    “Finally, we note that Lance Armstrong expressed a wish to participate in a truth and reconciliation process, which we would welcome.”

    Utterly gobsmacked that UCI are using the testimony of a self-confessed liar in support of their ant-doping performance. Looks desperate.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    frenchfighter wrote:

    And WHERE IS BIKING BERNIE. Hope you are enjoying yourself!

    He's probably off fighting capitalism and mumbling the "floyd has the photos"
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    iainf72 wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:

    And WHERE IS BIKING BERNIE. Hope you are enjoying yourself!

    He's probably off fighting capitalism and mumbling the "floyd has the photos"

    Come on Frenchie; at least LA has admitted; it's time for AC to do the same now. :wink:

    Jerry
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein

    "You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
    -Jacques Anquetil
  • jerry3571
    jerry3571 Posts: 1,532
    Fantastic quotes from this- Called you crazy, called a bitch but I didn't call you fat.

    Also, "Doping was like saying we have to have air in our tyres, we have to have water in our bottles."

    Monumental! :D

    Jerry

    PS- Think I might get a T-shirt with these quotes on! 8)
    “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein

    "You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
    -Jacques Anquetil
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    jerry3571 wrote:
    Fantastic quotes from this- Called you crazy, called a ***** but I didn't call you fat.

    Also, "Doping was like saying we have to have air in our tyres, we have to have water in our bottles."

    Monumental! :D

    Jerry

    PS- Think I might get a T-shirt with these quotes on! 8)


    You should. I guarantee the likes of Romster Bike Wear will have the appropriate T's whistled up within a day.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    frenchfighter wrote:
    Lots of peoples ego's bruised today.

    Lots of people vindicated.

    And WHERE IS BIKING BERNIE. Hope you are enjoying yourself!
    He posts on the Cycling News forum - he's one of the more moderate and sensible ones over there
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin Posts: 868
    Today's early morning reaction has not been good for the LA brand resurrection project. Critical comments on CNN, ESPN and a number of the networks. This is mainstream USA, not cycling fans.

    Part one seems to have gone over like a lead balloon. He may need to cry tonight.
  • VerwoodAsh
    VerwoodAsh Posts: 196
    mfin wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Just watched the video of Betsy's reaction....

    Lance had better hope to God that he's never made to stay alone in a room with her until she's done with him

    Here it is for everyone else

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTrkBRwT5Uc

    I hope they get settlement soon.

    However, since I read Frankie's confession many many months ago, I have always had issues with them both. She should have stuck to her guns and never married him in the first place as he was using before she put down her ultimatum and continued to afterwards. (Sect 37)

    And it doesn't sound like he was hounded out of the team.. (62-64)

    http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Andreu+Frankie+Affidavit.pdf

    http://d3epuodzu3wuis.cloudfront.net/Andreu+Betsy+Affidavit.pdf

    I expect I'll get flamed for this. Yes he doped, he lied for a long time (as do most dopers). But I liked him then, he rekindled an interest in the sport for me which has stuck with me since and I still see him as a 7 time tour winner in what was a very murky period of the tour. All the people popping champagne because the witch hunt (and it was) was successful may be very happy, but as a follower of the sport then (and now) the races were very exciting to me to watch. A criticism of more recent races are that they aren't!

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