Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped
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RichN95 wrote:nic_77 wrote:cedar404 wrote:Lance might be a bit upset tonight, his big me, me, me
moment could be overshadowed by this bizarre breaking
story regarding one of the big prospects for this years
NFL draft. It's not cycling related but its a crazy read if you
have 15 mins.
http://m.deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teo ... -is-a-hoax
Yeah, I posted a link to this story last night (on page 212, but no-one was desperately interested
)... it has been headline news (not just on the sports stations) all day here in the US - proper weird!
And like you say, it is definitely stealing thunder from the Oprastrong story... for some reason a trailed interview with David Walsh was dropped on ESPN this morning (I'm assuming because they were so wrapped up in the Manti T'eo thing... I can't imagine DW was too busy or anything today
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To be fair, it's an extraordinary story - far more interesting than Armstrong.
But...fundamentally NFL - collegiate or otherwise - redefines the bottom of the meh scale here0 -
They both generate a lot of money though, with full stadiums. (some of it mine) meh 8)Richmond Racer wrote:
But...fundamentally NFL - collegiate or otherwise - redefines the bottom of the meh scale hereOrganiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
Rundfahrt wrote:nathancom wrote:Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.
He is just trying to even things out as the other brand of stupid is clearly too much. 8)
Oh FFS; just as Dennis gets wheeled off to have his coolant replaced and the drool scraped off of his keyboard, look who shows up...!?!
Unless there's some sort of cretin tag-team thing going on, I suspect a conspiracy.0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Rundfahrt wrote:nathancom wrote:Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.
He is just trying to even things out as the other brand of stupid is clearly too much. 8)
Oh FFS; just as Dennis gets wheeled off to have his coolant replaced and the drool scraped off of his keyboard, look who shows up...!?!
Unless there's some sort of cretin tag-team thing going on, I suspect a conspiracy.
1) I started posting again the other day to post the report that LA admitted on Oprah.
2) My post was ripping on Dennis as much as others. Responding with insults simply makes you look very defensive.
Anything else from you attacking other posters and ignoring the topic?0 -
Rundfahrt wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:Rundfahrt wrote:nathancom wrote:Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.
He is just trying to even things out as the other brand of stupid is clearly too much. 8)
Oh FFS; just as Dennis gets wheeled off to have his coolant replaced and the drool scraped off of his keyboard, look who shows up...!?!
Unless there's some sort of cretin tag-team thing going on, I suspect a conspiracy.
1) I started posting again the other day to post the report that LA admitted on Oprah.
2) My post was ripping on Dennis as much as others. Responding with insults simply makes you look very defensive.
Anything else from you attacking other posters and ignoring the topic?
So who's defensive?
How do you know I wasn't referring to nathancom?0 -
OCDuPalais wrote:Rundfahrt wrote:OCDuPalais wrote:Rundfahrt wrote:nathancom wrote:Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.
He is just trying to even things out as the other brand of stupid is clearly too much. 8)
Oh FFS; just as Dennis gets wheeled off to have his coolant replaced and the drool scraped off of his keyboard, look who shows up...!?!
Unless there's some sort of cretin tag-team thing going on, I suspect a conspiracy.
1) I started posting again the other day to post the report that LA admitted on Oprah.
2) My post was ripping on Dennis as much as others. Responding with insults simply makes you look very defensive.
Anything else from you attacking other posters and ignoring the topic?
So who's defensive?
How do you know I wasn't referring to nathancom?
Responses to your questions in order:
1) That would be you, so defensive that you go on the attack instead of just chuckling at the joke.
2) I know you know how to use the quote feature properly.
Nice try though.0 -
Am happy. This is not limited confession in terms of admiting he doped in all of his TDFs. But he was short in detail...but he will confess in phases..this is a process. Contrition not shown...but he is gonna bury a load of people when in the USADA and qui tam case or at Truth com. Clean in 2009?0
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He stated in this that he didn't touch anything since 05? I have my doubts. Still too many lies or at best part truths. As others said this is a process. It is just the beginning....0
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iainf72 wrote:According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened
* When asked about Lance Armstrong,
answered "If anyone is wearing one
of those yellow cock-rings, I am
coming and tearing it off!
That was Wiggins Junior though!
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Still hid things, and he's not sorry. Wish i would never see his evil face againhttp://www.snookcycling.wordpress.com - Reports on Cingles du Mont Ventoux, Alpe D'Huez, Galibier, Izoard, Tourmalet, Paris-Roubaix Sportive & Tour of Flanders Sportive, Amstel Gold Xperience, Vosges, C2C, WOTR routes....0
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Guardian sums it up nicelt;
In short, this was not very edifying. If Armstrong was able to reduce his Livestrong Foundation staff to tears with his confession and apology, I hope OWN's audience are made of more skeptical, sterner stuff.
This was more strategy by Armstrong. The confession he got out of the way very quickly; it was actually limited. The rest was obfuscation and camouflage.
There is a lot more to come
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/video/2 ... otes-video0 -
Did he burn any people? Or did he just focus all on himself and say sorry to some others?Contador is the Greatest0
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Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
What a fraud, I don't think I will ever watch the races again following this scandal, it's just one scandal too far in my eyes....
It's a shame that this has all happened around the time Wiggins was crowned, how many people will be looking at big name racers now thinking does he dope....
Dark dark days for racing....0 -
LA was very, very calculating. He 'regrets' for sure but emotionally he was in charge all the way through. He didn't incriminate anyone, he focused on himself.
Its a set up. He's lost his TdF titles so the only thing left is damage limitation, ie hold onto his millions. Best way to do that, admit all then leave every other rider, team and UCI sweating whether he will whistleblow on them. I don't expect much from the second episode.
After that he'll negotiate: I'll spill the beans but I want my money untouched and to be cleared for Triathlon.
His 'opening up' is to show everyone he's touched that he's willing to spew - how much he spews is upto them if they don't give him what he wants.
This guy is Hannibal Lecters lil' brother.'Performance analysis and Froome not being clean was a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean.' TSP0 -
But Armstrong would not answer if the Andreus were telling the truth about what they say they had heard.
“I’m not going to take that one on,” Armstrong said. “I’m going to put that one down.”
Mmm.0 -
martylaa wrote:Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
What a fraud, I don't think I will ever watch the races again following this scandal, it's just one scandal too far in my eyes....
It's a shame that this has all happened around the time Wiggins was crowned, how many people will be looking at big name racers now thinking does he dope....
Dark dark days for racing....
How is a cheat admitting he cheated a bad thing? Especially when all the evidence that he was a cheat has been available to anyone who wanted to form their own opinion for over a decade?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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disgruntledgoat wrote:martylaa wrote:Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
What a fraud, I don't think I will ever watch the races again following this scandal, it's just one scandal too far in my eyes....
It's a shame that this has all happened around the time Wiggins was crowned, how many people will be looking at big name racers now thinking does he dope....
Dark dark days for racing....
How is a cheat admitting he cheated a bad thing? Especially when all the evidence that he was a cheat has been available to anyone who wanted to form their own opinion for over a decade?
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Exactly, and when their credulity is exposed to them rather than look at themselves and why they wanted to believe so desperately, they start howling for blood and decrying the death of cycling."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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A great article here in response to part 1 of the interview
http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/sto ... -spectacle
Clean on his comeback
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Hmmm, well from the reports.... A bit more than I expected, but not the whole story.
*I reckon he's keeping Schtum on the Andreu's becasue that's dangerous, perjury water
*I think Emma o Reiley knows him much better than anyone realises
*I'm starting to think that there was no covered up TdS test, That would have been his door key to a reduced ban, plus there was nothing in the USADA report about it - Starting to think that might have just been a massive boast
Have to say if he goes to USADA/WADA, comes totally clean about everything and helps in any way they want to clean up Sport, then disappears into the Texas sunset for ever and lives quietly, I could handle that.We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Because after watching his actions you want to believe he did it clean, the whole sport is corrupted right from the top in letting this go on so long.disgruntledgoat wrote:Exactly, and when their credulity is exposed to them rather than look at themselves and why they wanted to believe so desperately, they start howling for blood and decrying the death of cycling.0 -
martylaa wrote:Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
What a fraud, I don't think I will ever watch the races again following this scandal, it's just one scandal too far in my eyes....
It's a shame that this has all happened around the time Wiggins was crowned, how many people will be looking at big name racers now thinking does he dope....
Dark dark days for racing....
Not just today, the last few decades have been sad. Only the naive have not looked at the big names and wondered if they doped. Most big names have been caught or confessed anyway.
The big question is can we believe it is any different today? Lance said that to win the tour doping was like putting air in your tyres and water in your bottle.0 -
Trev The Rev wrote:martylaa wrote:Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
What a fraud, I don't think I will ever watch the races again following this scandal, it's just one scandal too far in my eyes....
It's a shame that this has all happened around the time Wiggins was crowned, how many people will be looking at big name racers now thinking does he dope....
Dark dark days for racing....
Not just today, the last few decades have been sad. Only the naive have not looked at the big names and wondered if they doped. Most big names have been caught or confessed anyway.
The big question is can we believe it is any different today? Lance said that to win the tour doping was like putting air in your tyres and water in your bottle.
But that is the most cynical man in the sport's history talking. If you can't believe in any part of it, why do you watch?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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So I guess everyone hoping he'd throw Pat under a bus are terribly disappointed?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
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martylaa wrote:Sad sad day this, I followed Lance Armstrongs victorys in all the TDF events, cheering again when he came back, bought the books and donated to his Cancer charity on the strength of his performances. Always believed in the greater good when he constantly denied the doping accusations but finally he has come clean. I personally hope he ends up in jail and loses all his wealth he has acculmated over the years.
But this is not new? What's making it so shocking now?Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Maybe some juicy UCI stuff will come in part 2...It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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Ah, so I was finally right! Glad Armstrong has relieved himself at last. I think that puts him ahead of Basso, Valverde, Contador, Vino and a few others who have been caught for Doping and not admitted. The question is that is Armstrong the new David Miller and going to be the new King of Anti Doping??
Just thought I'd gloat by showing the thread below where I asked the question about LA and Bruyneel and their dodgy looking dominance of the sport; dated August 2008!! 8)
The 2nd comment by spen666 looks very naive today.
viewtopic.php?f=40021&t=12580624&hilit=bruyneel“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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iainf72 wrote:So I guess everyone hoping he'd throw Pat under a bus are terribly disappointed?
Iain - If he's going to name names it's not going to be on oprah is it ? - If he is to answer under oath to USADA/WADA then i think he will...Damage Limitation comes to mind. Just seen Fat Pat's smug statement. I would be careful what he wished for just now, tho Mr Verbruggen must be having sleepless nights.0
