Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    nic_77 wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    I take it you've never seen an Oprah show? All you have to do is watch part of one and you'll realize that the show isn't about the guest and their "ordeals" at all. It's about Oprah and how wonderful she is. That's why it's called the Oprah show. This particular show is called OPRAH - The Lance Armstrong interview. It's all about her and you're out there looking for and thinking about truth. Use your brains man. This is "show biz" not enlightenment.

    Sounds like you've seen the interview already - you seem to know what is going to happen?

    Refer to my last post... I like many will watch to see Armstrong answer some questions - the first time he has done so since being officially sanctioned. Who said anything about "looking for and thinking about truth"?

    Please stop posting utter nonsense and ruining this otherwise informative forum.

    So you're NOT "... looking for and thinking about truth..."? Without truth, how would this be an "..informative forum."? Key word "informative"?
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    nathancom wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    nathancom wrote:
    I think people are watching it for the Lance Armstrong appearance rather than the opportunity to see Oprah, Dennis.

    I take it you've never seen an Oprah show? All you have to do is watch part of one and you'll realize that the show isn't about the guest and their "ordeals" at all. It's about Oprah and how wonderful she is. That's why it's called the Oprah show. This particular show is called OPRAH - The Lance Armstrong interview. It's all about her and you're out there looking for and thinking about truth. Use your brains man. This is "show biz" not enlightenment.
    Great. I can surmise that you will not be watching the show then. That information is valuable, but let's move on...

    Yes it is valuable. Valuable as entertainment. Much like Pro Wrestling has value as entertainment. Much like Oprah has value.....

    But I would ask when it was that you believed Pro Wrestling was about anything BUT entertainment. I knew it was entertainment when I was in the 1st. grade.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,700
    What do you suggest we do Dennis? No one has said that this is how they want Lance Armstrong to confess or answer questions about the RD, but we don't get to choose.

    Are you suggesting that we just totally ignore it instead?

    No, most of us have nt seen oprah, would nt recognise her if I saw her as I'm sure most of us wouldnt. She's not a big deal over here.

    You are making far more assumptions about how the interview will be than any of the rest of us.
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.
  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
    dennisn wrote:
    nic_77 wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    I take it you've never seen an Oprah show? All you have to do is watch part of one and you'll realize that the show isn't about the guest and their "ordeals" at all. It's about Oprah and how wonderful she is. That's why it's called the Oprah show. This particular show is called OPRAH - The Lance Armstrong interview. It's all about her and you're out there looking for and thinking about truth. Use your brains man. This is "show biz" not enlightenment.

    Sounds like you've seen the interview already - you seem to know what is going to happen?

    Refer to my last post... I like many will watch to see Armstrong answer some questions - the first time he has done so since being officially sanctioned. Who said anything about "looking for and thinking about truth"?

    Please stop posting utter nonsense and ruining this otherwise informative forum.

    So you're NOT "... looking for and thinking about truth..."? Without truth, how would this be an "..informative forum."? Key word "informative"?

    You've spent about half this thread harping on about how you like to study people and their responses to things and other people. I would have thought this is right up your street.

    I am interested to see how Armstrong responds to the questions he is asked (regardless of how credible the process by which he has been asked). I am also interested to see the manner in which his reported admission is made. I reserve judgement on whether I believe his responses and statements represent the truth until I've seen them.

    QED the event will therefore be informative.

    You are passing comment on other people's thoughts. I respect your right to hold an opinion, but please quote me one factual / interesting post you have made throughout the course of this thread. If you can't, please go away.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    ddraver wrote:
    What do you suggest we do Dennis? No one has said that this is how they want Lance Armstrong to confess or answer questions about the RD, but we don't get to choose.

    Are you suggesting that we just totally ignore it instead?

    If you're looking for entertainment then stay up late.
    If you're looking for truth and justice then ignore it.
    Personally, I'm guessing it will have a huge audience as people want to be entertained and at the same time THINK that they are watching "issues that really matter". It's wrestling. Two guys scream at each other outside the ring, then they get into the ring(with much hype) to settle these "issues that really matter", and strangely enough many people believe that's what they are seeing. I don't see any real difference in "WWE" and Oprah insofar as how they attract an audience.
    It's all based on what the audience wants to see and hear.
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    Except we have the Reasoned Decision already plus many books on the subject so much is already known and LA's answers can be tested against them. You really are arguing for the sake of it.
  • nic_77 wrote:
    Time to leave the thread Dennis. You have nothing to add.

    It is Armstrong's first public interview since he was officially sanctioned. Supposedly it will be the first time he publicly admits to doping, it is not clear to what extent this admission will go, or whether he will implicate anyone else. It doesn't matter who the interviewer is - it will still be interesting to watch. Some people may decide that it is sufficiently interesting to lose some sleep for, others won't.


    I for one really wish he would , everytime i pop in to have a read its just him and his tiresome tedious BS ruining an interesting subject.
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    I can't quite face trawling throught the last few pages of this thread, so I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but...

    More genius from NYVelocity:

    http://nyvelocity.com/toto
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    edited January 2013
    *edit* [moved]
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    dennisn wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    What do you suggest we do Dennis? No one has said that this is how they want Lance Armstrong to confess or answer questions about the RD, but we don't get to choose.

    Are you suggesting that we just totally ignore it instead?

    Blah blah blah same old same old same old blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    Here you are Dennis... take 2 before posting, (do not exceed 1,000 in a 24hr period)

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  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened

    * When asked about Lance Armstrong,
    answered "If anyone is wearing one
    of those yellow cock-rings, I am
    coming and tearing it off!
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • verylonglegs
    verylonglegs Posts: 4,023
    I'm mostly a pro race lurker but I have to say Dennis is right about Oprah. She has her own channel ffs, like those fraudulent evangelical preachers.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Strangely enough I have news that will set this forum abuzz.

    I will not be posting for a week or two. Going on "holiday" as I believe you say "over there". Keep up the good work guys and after this confession thing I expect to see post's exceed the 300 mark in short order.
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    Dennisn is taking a week off?

    mice-party.jpg


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    edited January 2013
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    I can't quite face trawling throught the last few pages of this thread, so I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but...

    More genius from NYVelocity:

    http://nyvelocity.com/toto

    It was a bit embarrassing though when one of Nyvelocitys team member was tested positive for EPO.

    http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/david-anthony-tests-positive
  • cedar404
    cedar404 Posts: 176
    Lance might be a bit upset tonight, his big me, me, me
    moment could be overshadowed by this bizarre breaking
    story regarding one of the big prospects for this years
    NFL draft. It's not cycling related but its a crazy read if you
    have 15 mins.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teo ... -is-a-hoax
  • Here you go. Full details of the Whistleblower case and the list of defendants:
    (although at first glance, it looks like JB could get off on a technicality!)

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0UaqYG ... 1&sle=true

    Story and link came from here:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-tea ... -1.1241686

    Brief summary from the usual source:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/details ... t-revealed
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • FocusZing wrote:
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    I can't quite face trawling throught the last few pages of this thread, so I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but...

    More genius from NYVelocity:

    http://nyvelocity.com/toto

    It was a bit embarrassing though when one of Nyvelocitys team members was tested positive for EPO.

    http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/david-anthony-tests-positive



    Possibly one of my favourite stories over the last 12 months
  • iainf72 wrote:
    According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened

    * When asked about Lance Armstrong,
    answered "If anyone is wearing one
    of those yellow cock-rings, I am
    coming and tearing it off!


    Oh Iain, you have to stop believing everything you read on Twatters

    *shakes head*
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    iainf72 wrote:
    According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened

    * When asked about Lance Armstrong,
    answered "If anyone is wearing one
    of those yellow cock-rings, I am
    coming and tearing it off!


    Oh Iain, you have to stop believing everything you read on Twatters

    *shakes head*

    I did say "according to popbitch"

    :P
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • iainf72 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened

    * When asked about Lance Armstrong,
    answered "If anyone is wearing one
    of those yellow cock-rings, I am
    coming and tearing it off!


    Oh Iain, you have to stop believing everything you read on Twatters

    *shakes head*

    I did say "according to popbitch"

    :P



    Back at ya
    :P
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Here you go. Full details of the Whistleblower case and the list of defendants:
    (although at first glance, it looks like JB could get off on a technicality!)

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0UaqYG ... 1&sle=true

    That actually looks like a really weak case. The key parts (19-35) seem to rely on clauses in the USPS Purchasing Manual and USPS employment contracts (like they give to postmen) to prove fraud. There's nothing from any contract between USPS and Tailwind or any evidence that USPS asked for assurances and were lied to.

    I would advise Landis not to start building that beach house just yet.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    iainf72 wrote:
    According to Popbitch today, when Wiggins was at the rugby thing in Dubai, this happened

    * When asked about Lance Armstrong,
    answered "If anyone is wearing one
    of those yellow cock-rings, I am
    coming and tearing it off!

    I'm utterly shocked by this revelation. Popbitch is still going? Really?
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:
    I'm utterly shocked by this revelation. Popbitch is still going? Really?

    Yeah. Still do Old Jokes Home too
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
    cedar404 wrote:
    Lance might be a bit upset tonight, his big me, me, me
    moment could be overshadowed by this bizarre breaking
    story regarding one of the big prospects for this years
    NFL draft. It's not cycling related but its a crazy read if you
    have 15 mins.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teo ... -is-a-hoax

    Yeah, I posted a link to this story last night (on page 212, but no-one was desperately interested :cry: )... it has been headline news (not just on the sports stations) all day here in the US - proper weird!

    And like you say, it is definitely stealing thunder from the Oprastrong story... for some reason a trailed interview with David Walsh was dropped on ESPN this morning (I'm assuming because they were so wrapped up in the Manti T'eo thing... I can't imagine DW was too busy or anything today :))
  • Rundfahrt
    Rundfahrt Posts: 551
    nathancom wrote:
    Just wish he wouldn't spam the thread with his brand of stupid all the time.

    He is just trying to even things out as the other brand of stupid is clearly too much. 8)
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    nic_77 wrote:
    cedar404 wrote:
    Lance might be a bit upset tonight, his big me, me, me
    moment could be overshadowed by this bizarre breaking
    story regarding one of the big prospects for this years
    NFL draft. It's not cycling related but its a crazy read if you
    have 15 mins.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teo ... -is-a-hoax

    Yeah, I posted a link to this story last night (on page 212, but no-one was desperately interested :cry: )... it has been headline news (not just on the sports stations) all day here in the US - proper weird!

    And like you say, it is definitely stealing thunder from the Oprastrong story... for some reason a trailed interview with David Walsh was dropped on ESPN this morning (I'm assuming because they were so wrapped up in the Manti T'eo thing... I can't imagine DW was too busy or anything today :))

    To be fair, it's an extraordinary story - far more interesting than Armstrong.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • LeicesterLad
    LeicesterLad Posts: 3,908
    RichN95 wrote:
    nic_77 wrote:
    cedar404 wrote:
    Lance might be a bit upset tonight, his big me, me, me
    moment could be overshadowed by this bizarre breaking
    story regarding one of the big prospects for this years
    NFL draft. It's not cycling related but its a crazy read if you
    have 15 mins.

    http://m.deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teo ... -is-a-hoax

    Yeah, I posted a link to this story last night (on page 212, but no-one was desperately interested :cry: )... it has been headline news (not just on the sports stations) all day here in the US - proper weird!

    And like you say, it is definitely stealing thunder from the Oprastrong story... for some reason a trailed interview with David Walsh was dropped on ESPN this morning (I'm assuming because they were so wrapped up in the Manti T'eo thing... I can't imagine DW was too busy or anything today :))

    To be fair, it's an extraordinary story - far more interesting than Armstrong.

    That is f*cked up.