Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    hommelbier wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Where is this place called Britain, I can't find it.
    I live on the Island of "GREAT BRITAIN" but where is this Britain. ??

    Brittany?

    Or as the French say Bretagne whereas the big island further north is Grande Bretagne.

    I'II get my pedant's coat...
    Ah, so that's why I don't understand these "Brits".
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    deejay wrote:
    hommelbier wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Where is this place called Britain, I can't find it.
    I live on the Island of "GREAT BRITAIN" but where is this Britain. ??

    Brittany?

    Or as the French say Bretagne whereas the big island further north is Grande Bretagne.

    I'II get my pedant's coat...
    Ah, so that's why I don't understand these people called "Brits".
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    dennisn wrote:
    OCDuPalais wrote:
    Chubb companies - always makes me smile. Chubb locks are my favourite: sounds like an illegal wrestling move.
    Talking of legal matters
    dennisn wrote:

    I'm guessing that all this doping in sports is really a good thing for lawyers

    What area of modern life is not a "good thing for lawyers"? They're like a societal version of mould: crucial for maintaining certain key functions, but likely to decompose everything if left unchecked.

    Happy Christmas Dennis, you splendid old tosspot.

    And a happy holidays(politically correct) to all of you "over there". I would have used a name (e.g. England, Great Britain) instead of over there but didn't want to start a flame war over the correct wording or flags. :wink:

    Happy Holidays to you and all of our other friends in the colonies Dennis :wink:
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  • pollys_bott
    pollys_bott Posts: 1,012
    Moray Gub wrote:
    He was a previous World Champion and had won two stages of the TDF and San Sebastien before Cancer ,to call that mediocre is quite frankly nonsensical.

    And he finished second at L-B-L, won Fleche and had a 2nd overall in Paris-Nice; so no absolutely not mediocre...

    ... the point of course is how he went from one-day / short stage race excellence to having the ability to win three-week stage races... (rhetorical, keep calm :wink: )
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    edited December 2012
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    And Deejay, you know you are related to every African and Asian person on the planet if you go far back enough? It is your kind of jingoistic nonsense which has made the George Cross a symbol of bigotry and a banner for the small minded. How do you feel about mass immigration into your beloved England?
    I know we all started as APES but I'm Proud of the way England developed and achieved.
    I just live and laugh with the modern society and get on with it but I can't be bothered with Bin Bags.
    I've sat in West Indies and African houses drinking their coffee and had it explained to me about Racial problems that are seldom Black & White but often Inter Islands or Inter Africa Country problems and most seem to have problems with various Asian people.
    I love San Francisco which is one of the most cosmopolitan cities anywhere. (says he as they got thrashed last night by that ex Trojan Coach)
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. The George Cross is a symbol of Valor, so I believe you mean the Flag of St George which is flown and painted in Koblenz (Germany) and Lombardy (Italy) & Catalonia (Spain)
    Edit:- I missed this one.....There is No Blue on their Flags either. :roll:
    The Belgian city of Bouillon say the St George Flag/Banners were first used on the 1st crusade to Jerusalem by Godefroid De Bouillon (visit the new museum) but I think it was Richard the Lionheart on the 3rd Crusade.
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Read this quote the other day and couldn't help but think about all that's happened lately.

    "The great masses of the people.....will more easily fall victims to a great lie than a small one."
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    And Deejay, you know you are related to every African and Asian person on the planet if you go far back enough? It is your kind of jingoistic nonsense which has made the George Cross a symbol of bigotry and a banner for the small minded. How do you feel about mass immigration into your beloved England?
    I know we all started as APES but I'm Proud of the way England developed and achieved.
    I just live and laugh with the modern society and get on with it but I can't be bothered with Bin Bags.
    I've sat in West Indies and African houses drinking their coffee and had it explained to me about Racial problems that are seldom Black & White but often Inter Islands or Inter Africa Country problems and most seem to have problems with various Asian people.
    I love San Francisco which is one of the most cosmopolitan cities anywhere. (says he as they got thrashed last night by that ex Trojan Coach)
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. The George Cross is a symbol of Valor, so I believe you mean the Flag of St George which is flown and painted in Koblenz (Germany) and Lombardy (Italy) & Catalonia (Spain)
    Edit:- I missed this one.....There is No Blue on their Flags either. :roll:
    The Belgian city of Bouillon say the St George Flag/Banners were first used on the 1st crusade to Jerusalem by Godefroid De Bouillon (visit the new museum) but I think it was Richard the Lionheart on the 3rd Crusade.
    Yes, the Crusades. A high point in human history, in human enlightenment.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,424
    dennisn wrote:
    Read this quote the other day and couldn't help but think about all that's happened lately.

    "The great masses of the people.....will more easily fall victims to a great lie than a small one."
    "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
    Given that it was Hitler who said that (though I guess he said it in German), can we invoke Godwin's Law? If not, what about "Mornington Crescent"?

    And if neither of those stop this thread, can anyone give me some drugs?
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  • moray_gub
    moray_gub Posts: 3,328
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.
    Gasping - but somehow still alive !
  • mercsport
    mercsport Posts: 664
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.

    Merry Christmas Moray (where've you been all this thread-long?). :)

    I think nathancom meant the 'England' bit of the Union flag which is the red bit in the middle. Red cross upon a white ground. In isolation a rather lacklustre bit of symbology as are the Union flag's other parts, but together, as a whole, a glory. Best looking flag in the world methinks.
    "Lick My Decals Off, Baby"
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,424
    mercsport wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.

    Merry Christmas Moray (where've you been all this thread-long?). :)

    I think nathancom meant the 'England' bit of the Union flag which is the red bit in the middle. Red cross upon a white ground. In isolation a rather lacklustre bit of symbology as are the Union flag's other parts, but together, as a whole, a glory. Best looking flag in the world methinks.
    Seriously, can we take this discussion elsewhere? No relevance whatsoever to the thread topic, or cycling, come to that.
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    briantrumpet wrote:
    mercsport wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.

    Merry Christmas Moray (where've you been all this thread-long?). :)

    I think nathancom meant the 'England' bit of the Union flag which is the red bit in the middle. Red cross upon a white ground. In isolation a rather lacklustre bit of symbology as are the Union flag's other parts, but together, as a whole, a glory. Best looking flag in the world methinks.
    Seriously, can we take this discussion elsewhere? No relevance whatsoever to the thread topic, or cycling, come to that.

    I don't know. I look upon web forums as a way of having a conversation / discussion(if you will) with people that you normally wouldn't be able to. Even face to face conversations / debates very often go off course. Of course in a perfect world this wouldn't happen but........
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,424
    dennisn wrote:
    I don't know. I look upon web forums as a way of having a conversation / discussion(if you will) with people that you normally wouldn't be able to. Even face to face conversations / debates very often go off course. Of course in a perfect world this wouldn't happen but........
    I do too, but if there's going to be a conversation about football and nationalism, let's keep it in the Bottom Bracket, as that's where it belongs, and it's bound to end in tears. And we wouldn't want to stifle debate about Lance Armstrong, would we?
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    briantrumpet wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    I don't know. I look upon web forums as a way of having a conversation / discussion(if you will) with people that you normally wouldn't be able to. Even face to face conversations / debates very often go off course. Of course in a perfect world this wouldn't happen but........

    And we wouldn't want to stifle debate about Lance Armstrong, would we?

    You do make a good point. He's a fun subject.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,424
    dennisn wrote:
    You do make a good point.
    Hold the front page!!!!

    Dennisn concedes a point in Christmas Day shocker!

    Dennis, aren't you feeling well, or has the Christmas spirit got the better of you?

    Anyway, now back to Lance...
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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    briantrumpet wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    You do make a good point.
    Hold the front page!!!!

    Dennisn concedes a point in Christmas Day shocker!

    Dennis, aren't you feeling well, or has the Christmas spirit got the better of you?

    Anyway, now back to Lance...

    Yes, please. Keep on topic. :wink:
  • nathancom
    nathancom Posts: 1,567
    mercsport wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.

    Merry Christmas Moray (where've you been all this thread-long?). :)

    I think nathancom meant the 'England' bit of the Union flag which is the red bit in the middle. Red cross upon a white ground. In isolation a rather lacklustre bit of symbology as are the Union flag's other parts, but together, as a whole, a glory. Best looking flag in the world methinks.
    Please attribute quotes properly...that was Deejay's nonsense about flags, not mine.
  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    I'm coming, I'm coming, I will be with you in a minute and ON TOPIC
    deejay wrote:
    Now this post should be about (and I quote Dave_1) a Scumbag from Texas and him being at the start of the 1996 season the World number 1 on "Points" he says.

    How ridiculous can you get. ??
    I keep trying to get this thread back on "Topic"
    Dave_1 wrote:
    speaks volumes. I will retract the Armstrong UCI number 1 if I can't find it soon.
    Followed By
    Dave_1 wrote:
    On topic http://www.usacycling.org/lance-armstrong.htm
    It seems the boy found it here.

    USA CYCLING http://www.usacycling.org/lance-armstrong.htm
    The Lance Armstrong Fanboys site with all his Distorted Facts

    Date of Birth: September 18, 1971
    Height: 5' 8"
    Weight: 156 lbs.
    Place of Birth: Plano, Texas
    Hometown: Austin, Texas
    Residence: Austin, Texas
    Pro Teams: Motorola (1992–96), Cofidis (1997), US Postal (1998–2004), Discovery Channel (2005), Astana (2009), Team RadioShack (2010–2011)
    Education: Bending Oaks High School, Dallas, TX
    Etc, etc, until it says,

    In 1996, Lance was ranked the world's number one cyclist, competed in the.......

    How ridiculous can you get. ?? to use a "Fanboy" magazine as a source.
    You need a source in the Real World which will know that Armstrong was not good enough to be Ranked a World Number 1. (A former lucky World Champion, yes)

    Before I get mis-quoted again
    deejay wrote:
    Where the hell did you get that. :?: :shock:
    Where would he get the points. San Sebastian and a stage in TDF & Paris-Nice.
    He must have been busy in the States to get enough points
    He was not an all rounder and the 1995 &1996 World Number 1 was Laurent Jalabert, a real All Rounder.
    He was never a "Domestic" as he was brought to Europe to produce results and failed miserably.
    He was just another rider in the peloton with a big head and a big mouth.
    I heard him bemoan the fact that nobody in Belgium recognised him.
    Just one of the many in the peloton that would go out in a break during a Transitional stage.
    If as you say Jalabert was a druggy then he has not been erased from the records like your Idol has and you have to make up fiction about his very few palmares. So keep looking. How ridiculous can you get. ?? :lol:
    By the way I was on the Muur de HUY to see him win the 1996 La Fleche Wallonne and in Liege 94, & 96 for his 2nd places.
    I had forgotten the 94 place as I was rather excited to have won money on the winner when Rominger punctured.
    deejay
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    1 way to stay on topic is to remove your ridiculous comments about the England flag that appear in every post. It's not worth discussing this with you any further
    deejay wrote:
    I'm coming, I'm coming, I will be with you in a minute and ON TOPIC
    deejay wrote:
    Now this post should be about (and I quote Dave_1) a Scumbag from Texas and him being at the start of the 1996 season the World number 1 on "Points" he says.

    How ridiculous can you get. ??
    I keep trying to get this thread back on "Topic"
    Dave_1 wrote:
    speaks volumes. I will retract the Armstrong UCI number 1 if I can't find it soon.
    Followed By
    Dave_1 wrote:
    On topic http://www.usacycling.org/lance-armstrong.htm
    It seems the boy found it here.

    USA CYCLING http://www.usacycling.org/lance-armstrong.htm
    The Lance Armstrong Fanboys site with all his Distorted Facts

    Date of Birth: September 18, 1971
    Height: 5' 8"
    Weight: 156 lbs.
    Place of Birth: Plano, Texas
    Hometown: Austin, Texas
    Residence: Austin, Texas
    Pro Teams: Motorola (1992–96), Cofidis (1997), US Postal (1998–2004), Discovery Channel (2005), Astana (2009), Team RadioShack (2010–2011)
    Education: Bending Oaks High School, Dallas, TX
    Etc, etc, until it says,

    In 1996, Lance was ranked the world's number one cyclist, competed in the.......

    How ridiculous can you get. ?? to use a "Fanboy" magazine as a source.
    You need a source in the Real World which will know that Armstrong was not good enough to be Ranked a World Number 1. (A former lucky World Champion, yes)

    Before I get mis-quoted again
    deejay wrote:
    Where the hell did you get that. :?: :shock:
    Where would he get the points. San Sebastian and a stage in TDF & Paris-Nice.
    He must have been busy in the States to get enough points
    He was not an all rounder and the 1995 &1996 World Number 1 was Laurent Jalabert, a real All Rounder.
    He was never a "Domestic" as he was brought to Europe to produce results and failed miserably.
    He was just another rider in the peloton with a big head and a big mouth.
    I heard him bemoan the fact that nobody in Belgium recognised him.
    Just one of the many in the peloton that would go out in a break during a Transitional stage.
    If as you say Jalabert was a druggy then he has not been erased from the records like your Idol has and you have to make up fiction about his very few palmares. So keep looking. How ridiculous can you get. ?? :lol:
    By the way I was on the Muur de HUY to see him win the 1996 La Fleche Wallonne and in Liege 94, & 96 for his 2nd places.
    I had forgotten the 94 place as I was rather excited to have won money on the winner when Rominger punctured.
    deejay
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • alwaystoohot
    alwaystoohot Posts: 252
    Lance is history guys, condemned to be pointed at and whispered about every where he goes for the rest of his life. No other sportsman in any other sport has been so publically castigated or ostracised. The taste of success has become a very bitter pill.
    'I started with nothing and still have most of it left.'
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,728
    His CAS appeal deadline arrived, today.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/d-day-f ... ban-to-cas
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    Well Edward Gunderson never quite saw the destruction of his DNA son...but maybe Lance will use the Gunderson surname as well as beard and cap..gotta be better than his current surname. Few other adjustments post ban www.lancearmstrong.com leads only to the rider and no other foundation stuff...and , I can't seem to book Linda Armstrong for motivational speaking anymore ..www.lindarmstrong.com is a dead link
    http://www.tributes.com/show/Eddie-Char ... n-94036841
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • Nick Fitt
    Nick Fitt Posts: 381
    Dave_1 wrote:
    ...and , I can't seem to book Linda Armstrong for motivational speaking anymore ..www.lindarmstrong.com is a dead link
    http://www.tributes.com/show/Eddie-Char ... n-94036841
    :lol:
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    Nick Fitt wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    ...and , I can't seem to book Linda Armstrong for motivational speaking anymore ..www.lindarmstrong.com is a dead link
    http://www.tributes.com/show/Eddie-Char ... n-94036841
    :lol:

    Sorry, but how is his dad dying funny?
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  • deejay
    deejay Posts: 3,138
    Nick Fitt wrote:
    Dave_1 wrote:
    ...and , I can't seem to book Linda Armstrong for motivational speaking anymore ..www.lindarmstrong.com is a dead link
    :lol:
    Let's try to see the funny side now.
    I think it goes along the lines of Armstrong is now a Filthy word. :lol::lol:
    Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 1972
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    Who?
  • Vino'sGhost
    Vino'sGhost Posts: 4,129
    nathancom wrote:
    mercsport wrote:
    Moray Gub wrote:
    deejay wrote:
    Off Topic.....Sorry
    nathancom wrote:
    Football fans found the England Flag about 1995 and were followed by hooligans on a political spree and so began the jingoistic nonsense. .


    That was happening long before 1995 in the Euro Champs of 1980 the English rampaged through Italy wrapped in the union flag giving Nazi salutes and the like.

    Merry Christmas Moray (where've you been all this thread-long?). :)

    I think nathancom meant the 'England' bit of the Union flag which is the red bit in the middle. Red cross upon a white ground. In isolation a rather lacklustre bit of symbology as are the Union flag's other parts, but together, as a whole, a glory. Best looking flag in the world methinks.
    Please attribute quotes properly...that was Deejay's nonsense about flags, not mine.

    I think the scottish know more about jingoism than any other group I've seen. They even fight each other at football matches where history and religion are the deciding factors in who one supports. Given the chance to lead UK politics they used the opportunity to ruin the awld enemy by encouraging mass immigration, staggering amounts of corruption bailing out there crap mates and general fcukwittery which we are all paying for. This level of national ineptitude has been seen before when scotland was more or less desperate for closer union to save its porridge eating hide.
    They hide behind bleating liberalism and use words like bigot when they cant win or are unable to engage in sensible conversation and discussion.

    BTW Gingers are a group that can be discriminated against.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,439
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    are unable to engage in sensible conversation and discussion.

    They'll be fine on this thread then.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,424
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    are unable to engage in sensible conversation and discussion.

    They'll be fine on this thread then.
    Even better if they can't stay on topic either.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,439
    briantrumpet wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Vino'sGhost wrote:
    are unable to engage in sensible conversation and discussion.

    They'll be fine on this thread then.
    Even better if they can't stay on topic either.

    Which topic?
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