Bring on the track events! *spoiler*

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  • Both Kenny and Bauge get a lap of honour.
    Stupid UCI rule in action, once again.

    Unless there is some stupid mistake, there are only 4 men realistically fighting for 3 medals.

    Pathetic.

    GB collectively carrying incredible form.
    Kenny and Clancy's flying laps outclass their fields.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Both Kenny and Bauge get a lap of honour.
    Stupid UCI rule in action, once again.

    Unless there is some stupid mistake, there are only 4 men realistically fighting for 3 medals.

    Pathetic.

    GB collectively carrying incredible form.
    Kenny and Clancy's flying laps outclass their fields.
    GB training camp and taper timed perfectly, bet the aussies are spitting blood :D
  • Graculus
    Graculus Posts: 107
    It's not only the Aussies, Clara Sanchez more or less accused Pendleton, and all of GB, of doping in L'Equipe.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-piste/Actualites/-ils-sont-une-jambe-au-dessus/303426

    My rough translation is:

    I wonder how we can improve our level so much in three months? I cannot do it, I don't have a miracle solution. Perhaps they have one. Go and ask them.They cannot say they have better skinsuits than us, that only makes a couple of millimetres differencs, not a whole leg.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    sour grapes unfortunately.
    We are luck to have strenght in depth so when GB have training camps the training is ferocious and competative. Gb also do the traing blocks and taperring timed to perfection and it is a GB track camp men and women all together so a huge team environment which ecourage each other also with huge competition for places.
    3 months is plenty of time for preparation but dont forget in some cases it has been progressive over about 9 months. Thomas and kennaugh gave up road to focus specifically on team pusruit so had lot to loose.
    Sanches was never going to be in the picture for this.
    You can see improvements in other performers also not just GB, look how Meares struggled in the keirin and team sprint. She was way off the pace in the Kierin whereas a year ago she would have led from the front and stayed there.
    Sour grapes I ma afraid.
  • Graculus
    Graculus Posts: 107
    oldwelshman wrote
    sour grapes unfortunately

    Yes, I don't think she really meant it, she gets slapped down by quite a few of the readers' comments underneath too, so I don't think her comments impressed too many of her own fans either. But to be fair to her I think she was being interviewed immediately after the race, so was bound to be feeling a bit raw.

    Wai Sze Lee's obvious joy at winning bronze is a much more enduring imageof the race!
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Yes I was happy for her, and impressed, also for the chineese they have plugged away for couple of years and improved.
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    Chris Hoy cannot even defend his sprint title due to this rule.....

    Why couldn't he? Could someone please explain? Thanks.
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    this post just about sums up the farce of IOC:


    It is not a level playing field, unfortunately. The IOC classify sports into a top tier, who can have a virtually free hand. Track & Field and swimming are Tier 1 and can, for example, add 50 metres evnts in all strokes, for both sexes, wit
    hout cutting anything out. The UCI are administrators of a Tier 2 sport, and propbably always will be when IOC delegates for each African country, each Caribbean country etc., etc. have equal votes to UK, France, Germany. As Tier two we are told, if you want BMX, fine, but you must drop something else - so exit the kilo and 500 m! If UCI want equality then drop Individual Pursuit for men and women, include an ommnium for men and women and a wonem's keiran. Then we are limited to a maximum number of athletss! Watching a sprint series this morning, without 6 of the World's top 10 illustrates how ridiculous it has become! Sprint without Sireau, Borgain, D'Almeidia, Hoy, Crampton, Edgar, Enders, Levy, Sunderland - no Pursuit - no Kilo.
  • PuttyKnees
    PuttyKnees Posts: 381
    On what basis are the sports allocated to tiers? I can't see swimming having a deeper or wider participation than cycling.
  • esspeebee
    esspeebee Posts: 174
    Lichtblick wrote:
    Chris Hoy cannot even defend his sprint title due to this rule.....

    Why couldn't he? Could someone please explain? Thanks.
    One entry per country per event. Kenny was reckoned to be on better sprint form this year, so he got the spot.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,029
    Forgive my ignorance, but what's the point of breaking the world record in the semi-final? Doesn't it just tire you out for the final?
  • I don't think these guys could moderate their performance to willingly hold back record breaking performances for a final. If they could it would be like 6-day, a set up.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Foerstermann... those quads weren't much use after all, eh :roll:

    Maybe he'll do better in the MTB race.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    And now the goons in blazers DQ the Venezuelan for... ? Riding in a straight line?
  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,127
    It's not only the Aussies, Clara Sanchez more or less accused Pendleton, and all of GB, of doping in L'Equipe.

    http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-pist ... sus/303426

    My rough translation is:

    I wonder how we can improve our level so much in three months? I cannot do it, I don't have a miracle solution. Perhaps they have one. Go and ask them.They cannot say they have better skinsuits than us, that only makes a couple of millimetres differencs, not a whole leg.

    hmmm, it is an issue with the French, rather than analyzing a problem and finding a solution they would sooner just blame someone, I see it all the time. That said, there is a bit more moderation in the comments which gives some hope.

    I don't understand what Clara Sanches is saying. VP took gold at the worlds in 2012 and she has cleaned up most of the sprint medals since 2005, it is not like she's come from nowhere, she's been whipping Clara's arse for a long time in sprint events. Maybe the French need to be asking themselves why a 54 year old granny is still competitive at a national level in women's cycling? (Boardman I think made the same comment a week or two ago).
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  • xscreamsuk
    xscreamsuk Posts: 318
    afx237vi wrote:
    And now the goons in blazers DQ the Venezuelan for... ? Riding in a straight line?

    Time they took that moron of a judge to either the shooting or the archery, does the Venezuelan have right to appeal? Did nothing wrong that I could see.
  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    afx237vi wrote:
    Foerstermann... those quads weren't much use after all, eh :roll:

    Maybe he'll do better in the MTB race.

    No, those guys are little. Maybe he would have been better going against Serena Williams in the tennis.
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    What race/event will Chris Hoy be in, next? Sorry I can't keep up but am multi-tasking and getting confused with all the different races. S'easier following the Tour: just the one event which goes on for three whole weeks. :?

    I assume he's not finished with this year's Olympics yet? :?:
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Lichtblick wrote:
    What race/event will Chris Hoy be in, next? Sorry I can't keep up but am multi-tasking and getting confused with all the different races. S'easier following the Tour: just the one event which goes on for three whole weeks. :?

    I assume he's not finished with this year's Olympics yet? :?:

    The keirin on Tuesday.
  • I'd love it if Victoria came back with, "It is not like I've come from nowhere, I've been whipping Clara's ars* for a long time in sprint events."

    Of course she's too self-depreciating to actually say that, even if she might think it.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Wasn't Ben Swift originally supposed to do the omnium? What happened?
  • xscreamsuk wrote:
    afx237vi wrote:
    And now the goons in blazers DQ the Venezuelan for... ? Riding in a straight line?

    Time they took that moron of a judge to either the shooting or the archery, does the Venezuelan have right to appeal? Did nothing wrong that I could see.
    Hmm, who is the moron when Chris Boardman stated before you'd written your post that Team GB had confirmed to him that the commissaire was correct as the Aussie was below the red line first?
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    afx237vi wrote:
    Lichtblick wrote:
    What race/event will Chris Hoy be in, next? Sorry I can't keep up but am multi-tasking and getting confused with all the different races. S'easier following the Tour: just the one event which goes on for three whole weeks. :?

    I assume he's not finished with this year's Olympics yet? :?:

    The keirin on Tuesday.

    Thanks afx
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Just returning from the Olympic park after watching the sprint and omnium this morning. That velodrome is something to behold. As soon as I got in I want down to the track, Bauge and Forsetemann were circulating along the top by the railing, they looked sublime. The noise when Kenny and Clancy rode was unbelievable. It's no wonder records are tumbling. Hoy came in and sat on the rollers for half an hour. I think I saw Jamie Staff in the American camp, has he been recruited by them as a trainer. A first visit to a velodrome for Mrs Peril and the Perilettes, they loved it.
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  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    just waiting for the womens team pursuit final

    why does one of those riders have a bald head? The commentators have not said AFAIK. If she were ill/chemo, she'd hardly be fit enough to do this?

    If this is a delicate subject, I don't know that and apologise if apologies are in order.

    thanks
  • nweststeyn
    nweststeyn Posts: 1,574
    Jo Rowsell suffers from Alopecia
  • Lichtblick
    Lichtblick Posts: 1,434
    ok thanks

    ANOTHER GOLD MEDAL for GB cycling!! And ANOTHER World Record!!!!

    :D:D:D
  • Clancy pulled his foot out of his pedal and they didn't notice. He even contested at least one sprint with only one foot clipped in.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Can't get excited by these wins. If I watch a RR I can go crazy at the finish but watching these i can see how it is impressive but I dont feel anything.

    Still not sure how they can crush the 2nd best team in the World by seconds. Either the rest of the world is amateur, the uk have a great competitive advantage or money talks.
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  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Lichtblick wrote:
    ok thanks I'm not suprised there are so many records the velodrome is so state of the art. You can see how much technology has moved on since Manchester was built. The 'airlocks' to get in were surreal.




    ANOTHER GOLD MEDAL for GB cycling!! And ANOTHER World Record!!!!

    :D:D:D
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