Bring on the track events! *spoiler*
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RichN95 wrote:
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frenchfighter wrote:Hope this guy creates some upset
Given he is favourite and has won every meeting with Kenny what kind of upset are you looking for? Him coming fourth?BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Isn't Bauge a doper?0
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But unfortuneatle not a better record against, or better than Kenny in the last year.Rick Chasey wrote:
Its a shame really as all the best sprinters should be there so the best on the day would win the gold medal.
It is stupid there are only 4 real candidates.0 -
It was predictable, Viviani isn't tops at TT.frenchfighter wrote:Shame for Viviani. Hansen takes Gold, only 20.
Coquard is also only 20. It'll probably be Hansen 1 Coquard 2 for a while now. Though Clancy at 27 isn't past it - Perez is 38 and although he didn't do well, 4 years ago he was still good.0 -
Add Sam Harrison into the mix he is as good as these two. He is good at all disciplines.knedlicky wrote:
It was predictable, Viviani isn't tops at TT.frenchfighter wrote:Shame for Viviani. Hansen takes Gold, only 20.
Coquard is also only 20. It'll probably be Hansen 1 Coquard 2 for a while now. Though Clancy at 27 isn't past it - Perez is 38 and although he didn't do well, 4 years ago he was still good.0 -
oldwelshman wrote:
But unfortuneatle not a better record against, or better than Kenny in the last year.Rick Chasey wrote:
Its a shame really as all the best sprinters should be there so the best on the day would win the gold medal.
It is stupid there are only 4 real candidates.
To be fair, he did nt get "caught". He missed a test (a single one, not the magic third one) and then tried to bullsh1t his way out of it. AIGCP (is that it? French USADA) banned him for 2 years as punishment for said bulls1tting but backdated it.
Was a pretty severe punishment compared to what others maight have done, e.g. BOC and Miss Ohurugu...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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I thought Bauge missed one test but also failed to file his whereabouts form twice?
Agree, it doesn't prove he was doping, but he knew the rules. What seems ridiculous is the backdated ban (and same goes for all the backdated bans). If they want to punish people, I wish they'd just actually ban them from racing - rather than just altering the record books after the event and allowing them to carry on regardless.0 -
Surprised no-one has mentioned the Perez incident. If the incompetent Commisaires had eliminated him at the correct time in the Devil Clancy would have taken silver. People will start thinking the UCI are trying to stop the GB track dominance at this rate!0
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Not over in the Asylum...
Where I read there was some kind of conspiracy to make the UK successful at track and road cycling, involving both the UCI and IOC.
Which of course, when you think about it, is totally logical. :roll:You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
step-hent wrote:I thought Bauge missed one test but also failed to file his whereabouts form twice?
Agree, it doesn't prove he was doping, but he knew the rules. What seems ridiculous is the backdated ban (and same goes for all the backdated bans). If they want to punish people, I wish they'd just actually ban them from racing - rather than just altering the record books after the event and allowing them to carry on regardless.
Well true, but I think it was a way of appearing harsh and tough on doping but withough actually punishing him that badly...
Shame it was as transparent as a.....erm....anyone?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Jez mon wrote:Not over in the Asylum...
Where I read there was some kind of conspiracy to make the UK successful at track and road cycling, involving both the UCI and IOC.
Which of course, when you think about it, is totally logical. :roll:
Isn't it all down to the magic wheels?
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/doubts- ... gic-wheels0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Jez mon wrote:Not over in the Asylum...
Where I read there was some kind of conspiracy to make the UK successful at track and road cycling, involving both the UCI and IOC.
Which of course, when you think about it, is totally logical. :roll:
Oo linky linky please.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread ... 13&page=81
"carte blanche during, and in the run up to, the olympics. it would perfectly explain sky's dominance during this years TdF.
Not hard to imagine an IOC gettogether (including Hein and/or Pat) where such decisions are made. "You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
Jez mon wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Jez mon wrote:Not over in the Asylum...
Where I read there was some kind of conspiracy to make the UK successful at track and road cycling, involving both the UCI and IOC.
Which of course, when you think about it, is totally logical. :roll:
Oo linky linky please.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread ... 13&page=81
"carte blanche during, and in the run up to, the olympics. it would perfectly explain sky's dominance during this years TdF.
Not hard to imagine an IOC gettogether (including Hein and/or Pat) where such decisions are made. "
It's a bit weird you get people spouting stuff like that off and they get given the title of 'senior member'.0 -
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It might be more worthwhile for the heads of the cycling federations of the other countries to be asking why their riders haven't improved, rather than wondering why (and how!) the British riders have.0
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greasedscotsman wrote:
Covering up their standard Mavic wheels whenever they're not in use would be a perfect way to distract other nations from whatever technical wizardry is actually going on.0 -
Graeme_S wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:
Covering up their standard Mavic wheels whenever they're not in use would be a perfect way to distract other nations from whatever technical wizardry is actually going on.
And also a great way to distract the other nations from realising there isn't anything special about the equipment! Have always thought the Secret Squirrel club has as much psychological value as technical value. Track bikes are pretty simple - if the frame is UCI approved and the wheels are mavic standard wheels, there's very little else to tinker with apart from rider position. Possible gains are tiny (though they all help) and the gain from having your opponents think you've got it sewn up through better equipment is easily as significant...0 -
step-hent wrote:Graeme_S wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:
Covering up their standard Mavic wheels whenever they're not in use would be a perfect way to distract other nations from whatever technical wizardry is actually going on.
And also a great way to distract the other nations from realising there isn't anything special about the equipment! Have always thought the Secret Squirrel club has as much psychological value as technical value. Track bikes are pretty simple - if the frame is UCI approved and the wheels are mavic standard wheels, there's very little else to tinker with apart from rider position. Possible gains are tiny (though they all help) and the gain from having your opponents think you've got it sewn up through better equipment is easily as significant...
It's like the thing with the "special" skinsuits they used un Bejing being destroyed afterwards. Guy I used to work with has one of them. He knows one of the track squad through a relative and was given a couple of skinsuits, I've seen photos of him at a fancy dress party wearing it!0 -
greasedscotsman wrote:step-hent wrote:Graeme_S wrote:greasedscotsman wrote:
Covering up their standard Mavic wheels whenever they're not in use would be a perfect way to distract other nations from whatever technical wizardry is actually going on.
And also a great way to distract the other nations from realising there isn't anything special about the equipment! Have always thought the Secret Squirrel club has as much psychological value as technical value. Track bikes are pretty simple - if the frame is UCI approved and the wheels are mavic standard wheels, there's very little else to tinker with apart from rider position. Possible gains are tiny (though they all help) and the gain from having your opponents think you've got it sewn up through better equipment is easily as significant...
It's like the thing with the "special" skinsuits they used un Bejing being destroyed afterwards. Guy I used to work with has one of them. He knows one of the track squad through a relative and was given a couple of skinsuits, I've seen photos of him at a fancy dress party wearing it!
Theres one hanging up above my desk... It looks to be made of the same stuff as my club one."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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I must admit I've wondered about the "hot pants" they're wearing pre-race. Even if there's no benefit at all it's the perfect time for your athlete to be sat there thinking "these are working really well, they're going to help me win this race" while their opponent will be sat there thinking "my legs are getting cold, why don't I have fancy tights to wear before the race?"
Even Brailsford has admitted that a lot of the advantage they get from the secret squirrel club is psychological.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:The clinic is f*cking weird.
Indeed and every time I look in there, it seems to have increased in weirdness.
With regards to the British team's performance, whilst you can never completely rule out nefarious methods (in the same way you can't rule out invisible, undetectable fairies living at the bottom of the garden) I think GB is possibly the only country where the cyclists with the best natural engines get put in the track cycling stream, as opposed to the road. Should think Cancellara would be able to get some rainbow jerseys in the individual pursuit if he changed his focus (and an Olympic Gold, if it was still an event!!).You live and learn. At any rate, you live0 -
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Rick Chasey wrote:The clinic is f*cking weird.
Like the Daily Mail of cycling - completely detached from any semblance of reality, but morbidly fascinating all the same.0 -
afx237vi wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:The clinic is f*cking weird.
Like the Daily Mail of cycling - completely detached from any semblance of reality, but morbidly fascinating all the same.
It's particularly American.
There's a really strong sub-culture in believing in conspiracies and generally believing those up top have ulterior motives.
Read about it once and it was interesting. Clearly I've forgotten most of it.
Proof if you needed that pro-cycling does not belong in the over-pumped, over-stimulated, bi-polar America.0 -
(back to track)
Banking. I have a question about velodrome banking.
Please be "nice". I've never even been to a velodrome and never watched it on TV until this year's Olympics.
ok. takes deep breath.
What's the banking "for", is it only for pinging on and off - like in team pursuit. If no, why do some individual sprint starts, have them going slowly up and down the banking?
When you're up there, unless you're going real fast, you're going to slide down?
No rolled-eyes PLEASE. Everyone has to learn things at some point.
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Lichtblick wrote:(back to track)
Banking. I have a question about velodrome banking.
Please be "nice". I've never even been to a velodrome and never watched it on TV until this year's Olympics.
ok. takes deep breath.
What's the banking "for", is it only for pinging on and off - like in team pursuit. If no, why do some individual sprint starts, have them going slowly up and down the banking?
When you're up there, unless you're going real fast, you're going to slide down?
No rolled-eyes PLEASE. Everyone has to learn things at some point.
Thanks.
The idea is that it's not actually a bend for which you have to slow down - but you still need to make it a loop - so they bank it so that, above a given speed, you can go round it like it's straight.0
