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  • I doubt there's any problem at all in using the trainer skewer on the road (certainly CycleOps stand by theirs as being suitable) as long as it is fitted as normal.
  • I rarely change the skewer, if anything it's less likely to break than the cheapy PX titanium ones I have, and I don't fear them breaking.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Went outside on the bike today for a 40 Miler,only did 20 in the end though (managed to finally to break the 17mph average over that course though yay) after i realized that i still had my Turbo Skewer in. Wasn't 100% on whether it was safe to use on the roads, so thought better to be safe than sorry. Got Tioga tomorrow.

    My cycleops one stays in permanatly...
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  • Thanks for assuring me its safe guys, probably would have carried on but ive had a skewer snap on me before and didnt want to risk getting any further from home until i confirmed its all good, decent ride either way, still need to sort my layering out though, too warm in a merino base and thermal jersey.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Turbo skewers are a damn sight more hardy than normal ones!
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  • Anyone else having trouble with rides not showing up on the TR Website, did Tioga earlier and resubmitted it a couple of times now, still nothing showing on my career page though.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Anyone else having trouble with rides not showing up on the TR Website, did Tioga earlier and resubmitted it a couple of times now, still nothing showing on my career page though.
    It's happened a few times... the cache on the TR website servers is having a few issues seems to be the reason
    It sorts itself out though and the guys are aware.
  • JGSI wrote:
    Anyone else having trouble with rides not showing up on the TR Website, did Tioga earlier and resubmitted it a couple of times now, still nothing showing on my career page though.
    It's happened a few times... the cache on the TR website servers is having a few issues seems to be the reason
    It sorts itself out though and the guys are aware.

    Same for me, did Peavine earlier and it's not showing on my career page. If I click 'show all' it appears but with no thumbnail. Hoping that my 'bests' update when it does get resolved as I smashed some previous records.
  • Garryboy
    Garryboy Posts: 344
    JGSI wrote:
    Garryboy wrote:
    Was Palisade for me today, struggled but stayed mainly in the green. I seemed to struggle more with the unders than the overs.

    I think one of my (many) weaknesses is recovering after an over ftp effort - legs and lungs. I'm 41 and have never really been fit before taking up cycling (c2 years ago) so wonder if I lack a good aerobic base?

    Loving trainer road btw

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/110538

    I also have sorearseitis when doing over an hour on turbo, but can do 3-4 hours on road on same saddle with no issues.
    Not a lot I can advise about turbo time in the saddle , except you do spend more time 'in' than 'out' of the saddle when on the turbo - so maybe like me , fidget a bit for a minute or so evry so often to get any numbness away.
    Good shorts should be used - I have just bought some Etxeondo Ators- and the pad is excellent comfort wise.
    I have been known to do long workouts on the turbo, even so I wouldnt say they are always a breeze but I never climb off due to saddle issues.... I am swapping my saddle next month for Selle Carbonio.. so I'll wait until then to make another judgement.

    if you use Golden Cheetah in conjunction with Trainer Road, then you can validate if your aerobic base or aerobic fatigue is an issue for you.
    The inbuilt graphs can give you an indication of where your power drops off whilst still working aerobically and then you can target specific workouts to improve.
    There are a lot of guys who seem to be big hitting the power zones at the moment which unless I was prepping for a winter series, I would nt be bothering myself working each into a frenzy .

    Anyone else use GC? I only ask because sometimes it throws up more questions than answers.

    I dont use Golden Cheetah, but have WKO+ (desktop training peaks) and have been uploading my TR sessions to that. Havent had much time to look at it, but it does have some pretty graphs!

    Did Baxter as a recovery ride this morning, enjoyed it although last 10 mins were tough (just coz I was tired).
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111236
  • I'm after some advice from the all knowing BR Oracle please!

    I've signed up and done the 2 x 8 min tests today,

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376 but.... didn't realise that the line I was producing on the screen was my heart rate and not my power :oops: :oops: So having blasted myself on the test, I don't have a figure for power as I presume the speed sensor on the wheel hasn't worked with TR. I paired the GSC10 with the speed and cadence (joint) monitor as directed. It picked the cadence sensor up no bother, but not the speed. The speed sensor works as I got the results up on my garmin. Can someone please advise me on what I've done wrong? Do I need to pair the GSC as two separate units?
    Initially I was gutted my power looked so low, but now I'm relieved that it was just my HR I was seeing :oops: :oops: :oops:

    Cheers

    Mikey
  • I vagely remember having a similar problem when i first started, noticed before i really got going though. Don't recall doing anything special, other than spinning the cranks a few times while searching for the speed/cadence sensor. Just make sure you can start the test by pedaling, i assume you manually clicked start test this time?
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Just ensure that you have chosen to work with Virtual Power in the profile tab of the TR app and not LTHR before you open a workout!
    The GSC10 is the joint Speed/cadence unit on the list.
    Make sure that the spoke magnet is aligned correctly.
    Any issues after that would be a puzzle.

    As a side note however, despite fresh batteries, the signal strength from Garmin hr and GSC10 starts off excellent and then descends into poor and bad - this has recently started to occur and may become a right niggle with TR.
  • Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers
  • ExigeR
    ExigeR Posts: 120
    *Edit..
    I should read the above posts before responding :lol:
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    mikey2341 wrote:
    Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers
    +60rpm? pair the GSC10 as one unit. It shouldn't actually give any other option.

    Is it paired with your garmin with running with TR?
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    I should really flag this up on TR facebook page... getting confusing
    This ride amongst others http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/108798
    hopefully no one we know :wink:
    Unusual..? and this sort of thing is not isolated
    well a TSS of over 200 should ring alarms bells especially when a pro rider does e.g. a ToB stage for a TSS of 190!

    My own recent Cathedral ride of 2 hrs 30 gave a TSS of 176.. no way did I ride like I was on a stage race.. I wish
    is TR over giving TSS? The profile of Cathedral gives a TSS of 174.. so my Virtual power is accurate according to that.
    Anyone with TR with Power getting more appropriate scores though?

    Why am I asking... because I am trying to train to accurate TSS per week, more so even in the off season
  • whojanicanackerov
    whojanicanackerov Posts: 383
    edited November 2012
    :oops:
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    JGSI wrote:
    I should really flag this up on TR facebook page... getting confusing
    This ride amongst others http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/108798
    hopefully no one we know :wink:
    Unusual..? and this sort of thing is not isolated
    well a TSS of over 200 should ring alarms bells especially when a pro rider does e.g. a ToB stage for a TSS of 190!

    My own recent Cathedral ride of 2 hrs 30 gave a TSS of 176.. no way did I ride like I was on a stage race.. I wish
    is TR over giving TSS? The profile of Cathedral gives a TSS of 174.. so my Virtual power is accurate according to that.
    Anyone with TR with Power getting more appropriate scores though?

    Why am I asking... because I am trying to train to accurate TSS per week, more so even in the off season


    Looking at your data from that ride your TSS score looks reasonable to me.
    Obv with the proviso that its virtual power blah blah(but you knew that already)

    I use Golden Cheetah as well as TR and find the data acroos the 2 sites for the same ride to be very very close(within 1-3 on TSS)

    I'm currently trying to use TSS to periodise my training. Seems like a plan 8)

    Edit-should have said i'm using powertap.
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  • ExigeR
    ExigeR Posts: 120
    JGSI wrote:
    I should really flag this up on TR facebook page... getting confusing
    This ride amongst others http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/108798
    hopefully no one we know :wink:
    Unusual..? and this sort of thing is not isolated
    well a TSS of over 200 should ring alarms bells especially when a pro rider does e.g. a ToB stage for a TSS of 190!

    My own recent Cathedral ride of 2 hrs 30 gave a TSS of 176.. no way did I ride like I was on a stage race.. I wish
    is TR over giving TSS? The profile of Cathedral gives a TSS of 174.. so my Virtual power is accurate according to that.
    Anyone with TR with Power getting more appropriate scores though?

    Why am I asking... because I am trying to train to accurate TSS per week, more so even in the off season


    Something is not right with all the results in that guys career.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/99168

    This was my Cartago from Saturday.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/110882

    From my short time here i'm getting the idea that a powertap is the way forward but at the moment my VP seems to be stable and good enough to get me through the winter doing what i want to do.

    *wait for post next week saying i now have a PT :lol: *
  • ChrisSA
    ChrisSA Posts: 455
    mikey2341 wrote:
    I'm after some advice from the all knowing BR Oracle please!

    I've signed up and done the 2 x 8 min tests today,

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376 but.... didn't realise that the line I was producing on the screen was my heart rate and not my power :oops: :oops: So having blasted myself on the test, I don't have a figure for power as I presume the speed sensor on the wheel hasn't worked with TR. I paired the GSC10 with the speed and cadence (joint) monitor as directed. It picked the cadence sensor up no bother, but not the speed. The speed sensor works as I got the results up on my garmin. Can someone please advise me on what I've done wrong? Do I need to pair the GSC as two separate units?
    Initially I was gutted my power looked so low, but now I'm relieved that it was just my HR I was seeing :oops: :oops: :oops:

    Cheers

    Mikey

    Hi,
    As others have said, you need to select your turbo as the virtual power source,. The good news is, TR can fix your 8 minute test (probably). Open up a support ticket with your info, and they can add the power in from the turbo curve (this worked for me).
  • Well after finally contacting Paligap to complain about the grinding noise coming from the Jet Fluid Pro, and them posting a new one out the next day (Thumbs up fellas), I thought i best re-test, espcially as the Jet Fluid Pro has a new power curve.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/112313

    Very pleased with the new figures, and the whisper quiteness of the turbo - old one was never that quiet before the grinding noise started!
  • mikey2341 wrote:
    Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers

    Hey Mikey,

    I've reprocessed your workout for you: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376

    You had some super high speed readings, check your magnet to see if it's clipping the speed sensor. That can cause double readings.

    I tried to manually delete those readings, but it still messed up your overall TSS/NP/IF for the ride. Your FTP is correct though and wasn't affected. New FTP of 287. Nice job!

    -Nate
  • Garryboy
    Garryboy Posts: 344
    mikey2341 wrote:
    Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers

    Hey Mikey,

    I've reprocessed your workout for you: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376

    You had some super high speed readings, check your magnet to see if it's clipping the speed sensor. That can cause double readings.

    I tried to manually delete those readings, but it still messed up your overall TSS/NP/IF for the ride. Your FTP is correct though and wasn't affected. New FTP of 287. Nice job!

    -Nate

    Agreed, well done! I have jetfluid pro too and new curve is a bit more 'rewarding'!

    Nate - given the variability between turbos etc, it would be good to be able to compare your rides with other users that have same turbo - any way to do that. Maybe a way of filtering the 'users' tab based on virtual power source?
  • mikey2341 wrote:
    Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers

    Hey Mikey,

    I've reprocessed your workout for you: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376

    You had some super high speed readings, check your magnet to see if it's clipping the speed sensor. That can cause double readings.

    I tried to manually delete those readings, but it still messed up your overall TSS/NP/IF for the ride. Your FTP is correct though and wasn't affected. New FTP of 287. Nice job!

    -Nate


    Hi Nate,

    Thank you for that, It's saved me doing another test! I can see this being very addictive! :D:D
  • Garryboy wrote:
    mikey2341 wrote:
    Thanks for the replies,

    I spun the pedals a few times whilst searching, and had the pedal to start box ticked. Maybe I didnt spin them for long enough. I'll try and set it up again tomorrow and see if it can pick it up.

    Cheers

    Hey Mikey,

    I've reprocessed your workout for you: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376

    You had some super high speed readings, check your magnet to see if it's clipping the speed sensor. That can cause double readings.

    I tried to manually delete those readings, but it still messed up your overall TSS/NP/IF for the ride. Your FTP is correct though and wasn't affected. New FTP of 287. Nice job!

    -Nate

    Agreed, well done! I have jetfluid pro too and new curve is a bit more 'rewarding'!

    Nate - given the variability between turbos etc, it would be good to be able to compare your rides with other users that have same turbo - any way to do that. Maybe a way of filtering the 'users' tab based on virtual power source?

    Yah, that's on my to-do list. It's a little lower than others though.
  • Any suggestions for what plan to start with over the winter? I was thinking either Intermediate base 1 or 2 followed by a build programme.
    The plan for next year are 25 / 50mile TT's and a few triathlons.

    I'm fairly new to all this, I've come from doing a 40 mile ride at the weekends at not much else. So lots of improving to do! :D:D:D
  • gwillis
    gwillis Posts: 998
    I'm starting with the base 1 plan as I think best to start from scratch and follow it right through .... Plenty of time
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    mikey2341 wrote:
    Hey Mikey,
    I've reprocessed your workout for you: http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/111376
    -Nate

    Hi Nate,
    Thank you for that, It's saved me doing another test! I can see this being very addictive! :D:D
    That's all part of Nate's evil plan! I believe the Government are considering imposing a requirement for a compulsory warning notice on the TR website. All turbos are to be sold in plain packaging with a warning notice regarding the use of TrainerRoad, and won't be out on display in any shops.

    (Edit - Ooh, 100 posts!)
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  • hi

    so i signed up for tr yesterday, i am waiting for my usb ant stick to arrive to get started. i cant figure out how to play a video?? i am trying it on the website and when i click workouts and then a specific workout , say the 8 min test, it just brings up the details, how do i get it to play?? im guessing its through the downloaded software?

    also, i want to start a plan, is there any way of the software telling me which is the next workout, or ticking them off as i go along? or do i have to go to the website, check the next workout, then open the downloaded software and search for it.

    sorry :oops:
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    There are only a limited number of workouts that are configured for video... eg the Sufferfest ones.
    Other workouts are just with the interval structure / power/ hr cadence on view.
    With the video workouts you just 'drag and drop' the appropriate video mpg into the window... more info help is on TR website.
    you cant use the website btw to run workouts .. you need to download and install the PC/mac local application.