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  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    Went for an actual road ride this morning and then followed up with
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/104509
    Sphinx seems a decent workout for Nov/Dec.
    Now for my Google milk and chips and egg
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    Anyone else getting some issues from the software?

    Today did palmer and it didnt save OR upload properly. I've had to add my own data from GoldenCheetah.
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/104378

    Not sure i'll continue to pay if this is an ongoing issue.
    Death or Glory- Just another Story
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    shazzz wrote:
    For info, I had the tyre (Conti Trainer) at 110psi and cranked down the clamp with four half turns last night.
    - That's interesting. I found I was getting a bit of wheelspin with that, so I upped it to three full turns. Maybe your tyre is stickier?
    JGSI wrote:
    Went for an actual road ride this morning
    - Can't remember last time I did that, I must give it a try! I've been enjoying myself too much on this turbo.
    mattshrops wrote:
    Anyone else getting some issues from the software?

    Today did palmer and it didnt save OR upload properly. I've had to add my own data from GoldenCheetah.
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/104378

    Not sure i'll continue to pay if this is an ongoing issue.
    - I had a look at your graph, that looks very strange. If I were you I'd post in the TrainerRoad support forum and let Nate have a look at it. I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of it, I've always found him to be very helpful - and quick to respond.

    Cheers,
    MarkP
    Boardman Road Comp - OK, I went to Halfords
    Tibia plateau fracture - the rehab continues!
  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    Never had an issue, other than it seems to show quite a low number at the end of FTP tests.
    All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
    Bike Radar Strava Club
    The Northern Ireland Thread
  • markp80
    markp80 Posts: 444
    dw300 wrote:
    Never had an issue, other than it seems to show quite a low number at the end of FTP tests.
    - I think my version has the same bug.
    Boardman Road Comp - OK, I went to Halfords
    Tibia plateau fracture - the rehab continues!
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Finally joined up to Trainer Road!
    Just waiting for my ANT+ stick and a campagnolo freehub for my PT wheel (I'm in the process of rebuilding my bike with Campag...)
    I'll start from intermediate Base 1 as I've not been doing any training or indeed much riding at all...
    Username is NapD
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    ABCC Cycling Coach
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    You know it makes sense :D
    (dunno going with Campag tho... :wink:

    I'm going fpr most rides this week on leader board.. cant compete with time on trainer as some out there in TR world screw up their trainers to record 11 hours solid ....
  • NatePearson
    NatePearson Posts: 24
    mattshrops wrote:
    Anyone else getting some issues from the software?

    Today did palmer and it didnt save OR upload properly. I've had to add my own data from GoldenCheetah.
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/104378

    Not sure i'll continue to pay if this is an ongoing issue.

    Uh oh. You might have hit a bug with the beta. We've had it where an OS program (like virus checking) takes over our database while we're recording, that then put the DB in a locked stat and we stop recording data.

    Luckily, we wear belts and suspenders so we should be able to recover this ride. E-mail me at support@trainerroad.com and we'll be able to fix the problem.

    I'm just finishing some code to prevent this from happening. That will be in the next beta release.

    This bug happens once every 1,000 rides or so. But on some people's computers, it happens more often than others. So even though it's happened once to you, I can't guarantee that it won't happen again.

    I also suggest not using our beta software. Looks like you're on beta 1.3.2. I recommend rolling back to 1.2.6 which is our production version. Our betas DO have bugs. Some people enjoy finding them and helping us improve, but if you want a seamless experience, we recommend not using them.

    To roll back, uninstall the current version of TrainerRoad then get the production version at www.trainerroad.com/install.

    And of course, if you're not happy with us, we'll give you a full refund. Just drop me a line at support@trainerroad.com and I'll make that happen.

    -Nate
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    my last to 1 ride, I recorded more time than actually done.
    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/105846
    Running 1.3.2 but am suspecting that I had a bad to poor signal from the garmin stick for the entire ride
    Moved the stick to another port and the timing went better.
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    Thanks for quick response Nate. I have emailed, hopefully it can be sorted.
    As stated in my email i would like to keep the custom ride beta as that is the thing that convinced me to go ahead.

    I also am prepared to accept occasional problems with a beta. Look forward to your reply.
    Death or Glory- Just another Story
  • Psychotext
    Psychotext Posts: 145
    Quick question for those in the know... is it possible to use this in some sort of "record mode", so that you can just do a program that you're used to doing without having to create it in the software first?

    Initially I just want to try the software to store my data rather than having a go on their specific workouts. Is it capable of this or am I wasting my time? Thanks.
  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    Yup. I think these are what you're looking for .. http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/work ... ree%20ride
    All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
    Bike Radar Strava Club
    The Northern Ireland Thread
  • jamienorton
    jamienorton Posts: 182
    Just finished Antelope http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/106414 felt really strong for some reason, considering im a bit under the weather and had to go down to 90% on my last workout. Good workout, enjoyed it, hopefully ive got enough in the tank for 80 miles tomorrow weather permitting. Furthest so far is 50.
  • jgsi
    jgsi Posts: 5,062
    jamienorton wrote:
    Just finished Antelope http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/106414 felt really strong for some reason, considering im a bit under the weather and had to go down to 90% on my last workout. Good workout, enjoyed it, hopefully ive got enough in the tank for 80 miles tomorrow weather permitting. Furthest so far is 50.

    Did the same wrkout and very similar results - encouraging to see TR virtual power being this consistent.
    By the way, TR guys are not reviewing the Satori power curves .
  • Psychotext
    Psychotext Posts: 145
    dw300 wrote:
    Yup. I think these are what you're looking for .. http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/work ... ree%20ride
    Excellent. Thanks. Looking forward to giving it a blast.

    I'm a huge tech geek. :D
  • stueys
    stueys Posts: 1,332
    JGSI wrote:
    By the way, TR guys are not reviewing the Satori power curves .

    Really? That's a shame, they've got presumably more accurate data now?
  • jamienorton
    jamienorton Posts: 182
    Ventured outdoors today, was meant to do 80 miles but my gloves weren't up to it so did 40 instead with just over 2000ft of climbing, nice day for it, drivers seemed almost too considerate, knocked a couple of minutes of a few Strava segments without really trying. So the time on the turbo seems to be helping already. Shame their not looking into the Satori profile.
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    Popped my indoor trainer cherry with my 20 minute test this morning.

    Ouch. Very ouch :|

    As a turbo novice, does it get easier to maintain a steady power output? Found it really hard to hit a cadence and sit there (as you can probably tell from my alpine-esque trace!). Not sure if that's down to me and my riding, or just a natural result of such accurate power tracking.

    Totally hooked already though! :D
  • jamienorton
    jamienorton Posts: 182
    Welcome to the fun, yeah it does get easier, i thought the same when i first started, after 10 rides i feel ive pretty much got it under control now, still slightly all over the place but i think its more to do with my 11-36 cassette.
  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    Simmotino wrote:
    Popped my indoor trainer cherry with my 20 minute test this morning.

    Ouch. Very ouch :|

    As a turbo novice, does it get easier to maintain a steady power output? Found it really hard to hit a cadence and sit there (as you can probably tell from my alpine-esque trace!). Not sure if that's down to me and my riding, or just a natural result of such accurate power tracking.

    Totally hooked already though! :D

    The more you ride beyond your means, the harder it is to ride steadily. The trainer's power curve tries to simulate road riding, so 150W takes approximately 8x more effort than 75W, 300W takes 8x more effort than 150W and 64x as much as 75W. The upshot of which means that when riding up near your FTP, even 10 or 20W more than FTP is much harder to maintain than adding 10-20W when riding at 150W as you're at a very steep part of the curve.

    So now your FTP is worked off 280W, ideally when you come to try and increase that you'll want to ride the 20mins at say, 290W, as steadily as you can, rather than trying to ride and 300W and and hang in, because thats much harder to do even though is only sounds like a few Watts more.

    Good effort though .. in the last 5 mins you were obviously in control but pushing to raise the power as much as possible with what you judged you had left in the tank. Riding FTP tests at current FTP and slowly ramping up in the final 5-10mins could well also be a good technique if you believe that you'll only be increasing by a few Watts and your last test was quite recent.
    All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
    Bike Radar Strava Club
    The Northern Ireland Thread
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    dw300 wrote:
    Good effort though .. in the last 5 mins you were obviously in control but pushing to raise the power as much as possible with what you judged you had left in the tank. Riding FTP tests at current FTP and slowly ramping up in the final 5-10mins could well also be a good technique if you believe that you'll only be increasing by a few Watts and your last test was quite recent.

    Thanks. I'd like to say it was a conscious effort but in reality I went out at a pace I thought I could maintain (the initial 'dip' was a saddle shift for a numb ar$e!) but realised about half way through I was going to need to drop a gear to hit the 20 minutes.

    From then I was concentrating only on the head unit for cadence and speed and was quite surprised at the fluctuation in power output when I looked, hence the question about maintaining output as experience grows.

    The effect of closing in on the end of the test most likely accounted for the increase in power toward the 50 minute mark - I was hanging on for grim death at that point! :lol:
  • ExigeR
    ExigeR Posts: 120
    Just did the 3hour Balcony.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/107070

    Hadn't eaten anything since 9:00 this morning and then got on the turbo at 3:00 for 3 hours..... wont be doing that again.

    3 weeks into the "20 Minute Power Accelerator" plan now and things seem to be going well at the moment, I'm starting to think TR could be the best £6 per month you can spend on yourself/bike.
  • ExigeR
    ExigeR Posts: 120
    Does anyone know what is more actuate with the calories used, on the last turbo i did my Garmin says 1920 used and TR says 2614 which is a big difference.

    I know it doesn't matter that much but if TR is closer to what has been used I'm off for a burger :D
  • springtide9
    springtide9 Posts: 1,731
    ExigeR wrote:
    Does anyone know what is more actuate with the calories used, on the last turbo i did my Garmin says 1920 used and TR says 2614 which is a big difference.

    I know it doesn't matter that much but if TR is closer to what has been used I'm off for a burger :D

    I think the general consensus is to pick the lowest one, and then half the value :wink:
    Simon
  • ExigeR
    ExigeR Posts: 120
    Arse, i don't like salad will just have to work harder lol.

    Popped my 300+ NP cherry tonight :)

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/107606
  • jamienorton
    jamienorton Posts: 182
    edited November 2012
    ExigeR wrote:
    ars*, i don't like salad will just have to work harder lol.

    Popped my 300+ NP cherry tonight :)

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/107606

    Jesus thats some power to weight ratio youve got there, good work. Exige is probably an appropriate username for you.
  • mattshrops
    mattshrops Posts: 1,134
    jamienorton wrote:
    ExigeR wrote:
    ars*, i don't like salad will just have to work harder lol.

    Popped my 300+ NP cherry tonight :)

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/107606

    Jesus thats some power to weight ratio youve got there, good work. Exige is probably and appropriate username for you.


    According to the coggan and allen book -Racing and training with a powermeter, your w/kg of 5.23 puts you into the top of the cat1 /bottom of domestic pro bracket. Very nice 8)
    Death or Glory- Just another Story
  • dw300
    dw300 Posts: 1,642
    ExigeR wrote:
    ars*, i don't like salad will just have to work harder lol.

    Popped my 300+ NP cherry tonight :)

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/107606

    Kudos, Reps, Like, +1 .. etc!!
    All the above is just advice .. you can do whatever the f*ck you wana do!
    Bike Radar Strava Club
    The Northern Ireland Thread
  • Simmotino
    Simmotino Posts: 295
    ExigeR wrote:
    Popped my 300+ NP cherry tonight :)

    Christ, fair play Exige! :shock:

    Second run on the trainer today with Gayley and the power still isn't 'smooth' but a bit better than the 20 minute test on Sunday. The bike needs a couple of small tweaks for the trainer set up (mainly to the saddle) as suddenly I'm not comfortable any more hence the spikes on today's run, and the power smoothing option wasn't on either, so that might make a difference too.

    Thinking about adding in a couple of gentle workouts to the Base Plan once I'm in to the second/third week as three rides a week isn't going to be enough for me I don't think, but won't extend that until I get a bit of fitness back.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Broke my trainer road cherry today, started the int. base plan.
    First proper test in over 18 months.
    Ouch. Blew up big time on the 2nd one heh heh. Very unfit. It is what it is, It'll get better.

    http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/108228
    Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
    ABCC Cycling Coach

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