TDF Stage 16 *SPOILER*
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Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw the average speed was 33.3kph....
S.L.O.W.
Half way up the final climb Harmon was saying they were ahead of any predicted times. This seemed odd but I assumed the stiff breeze was mainly behind them.
33 k.p.h. is the mid point speed quoted in the book. So not slow, A.V.E.R.A.G.E.0 -
oneof1982 wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw the average speed was 33.3kph....
S.L.O.W.
Half way up the final climb Harmon was saying they were ahead of any predicted times. This seemed odd but I assumed the stiff breeze was mainly behind them.
33 k.p.h. is the mid point speed quoted in the book. So not slow, A.V.E.R.A.G.E.
Seriously?
It's not even an MTF?0 -
pb21 wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw the average speed was 33.3kph....
S.L.O.W.
Half way up the final climb Harmon was saying they were ahead of any predicted times. This seemed odd but I assumed the stiff breeze was mainly behind them.
A few of the stages have seemed slow so far. Will be interesting to see the average at the end, on what would be considered a fast course...
Hopefully it is a good sign although some will just argue it is down to the riders being rubbish and not racing.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:oneof1982 wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw the average speed was 33.3kph....
S.L.O.W.
Half way up the final climb Harmon was saying they were ahead of any predicted times. This seemed odd but I assumed the stiff breeze was mainly behind them.
33 k.p.h. is the mid point speed quoted in the book. So not slow, A.V.E.R.A.G.E.
Seriously?
It's not even an MTF?
It had a couple of small 'tump' in it though to be fair.0 -
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Three quoetd speeds. 35,33 and 31. Was a tail wind, as those that rode at the weekend will confirm. Bottom line is that love 'em or loathe 'em, no one has the strength to make Sky puff or pant.0
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frenchfighter wrote:
He's laughing at Sean in the car throwing the Ocean Colour Scene CD out the window, saying "I'm not having that sh!t on"...0 -
No, he's laughing at Froome chewing the bars and thinking about all those c**** on the interweb suggesting that Froome is the superior rider
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Prize money goes down to 20th place, but I doubt whether any rider realises, if he doesn't put his foot down, he might finish 21st and lose out. Placings 16-20th in each stage get 200 € each, better placings than 16th get increasingly more in increasing increments.RichA wrote:How far does prize money go for a stage? At what point do they stop sprinting for places?
E.g. 15th gets 250 €, so 50 € more, but the difference between 3rd and 4th is 800 € - Vino's foot slipping out the pedal today meant he/Astana only got 1200 € whereas if he'd finished 3rd, he/Astana would have got 2000 €.
Nibali did Wiggins out of 70 € today - 540 € for 11th versus 470 € for 12th.0 -
who looked stronger in the final 5km of the Peyresourde, Froome or Wiggo?0
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iainf72 wrote:Dave_1 wrote:who looked stronger in the final 5km of the Peyresourde, Froome or Wiggo?
Wiggo
Showed no weakness, Froome did look like he was suffering a bit.
That's what I thought. Froome did appear to help close up to Nibs but near the summit Froome looked at his max trying to hold Wiggins as Wiggins chased down Nibali0 -
Dave_1 wrote:iainf72 wrote:Dave_1 wrote:who looked stronger in the final 5km of the Peyresourde, Froome or Wiggo?
Wiggo
Showed no weakness, Froome did look like he was suffering a bit.
That's what I thought. Froome did appear to help close up to Nibs but near the summit Froome looked at his max trying to hold Wiggins as Wiggins chased down Nibali
I thought Froome was better though and should be allowed to go off up the road?!Mañana0 -
knedlicky wrote:
Maybe so for Green and Yellow, and as from today very likely also for White, Polka-Dot and Most Aggressive Rider. At least Lanterne Rouge isn't settled yet!iainf72 wrote:It's done. The race was over last Monday.
I have always wondered why this is not valued more by the forum's panache seekers? Seems to sum up what they are looking for but they never seem to mention it. 0 -
Dave_1 wrote:who looked stronger in the final 5km of the Peyresourde, Froome or Wiggo?
From what I saw, Wiggo had the measure of the pair of them. In the last km Froome looked like he was hanging on but no more. Perhaps not the superman he (and everyone else) seems to think he is.
Wiggo should be happy with his work today.0 -
The White jersey is more or less over. TJVG is considerably better than Pinot in a TT.knedlicky wrote:
Maybe so for Green and Yellow, and as from today very likely also for White, Polka-Dot and Most Aggressive Rider. At least Lanterne Rouge isn't settled yet!iainf72 wrote:It's done. The race was over last Monday.Twitter: @RichN950 -
jim453 wrote:Dave_1 wrote:who looked stronger in the final 5km of the Peyresourde, Froome or Wiggo?
From what I saw, Wiggo had the measure of the pair of them. In the last km Froome looked like he was hanging on but no more. Perhaps not the superman he (and everyone else) seems to think he is.
Wiggo should be happy with his work today.
But my god he's boring.0 -
I reckon that unless the break stays away Wiggins might have a chance of winning the stage tomorrow."I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0
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Hello!RichN95 wrote:Who was the poster that declared that they would be a Jan Ghyselink hater? Well he missed the time cut by 6 seconds but has been allowed to continue. Time to unload the bile.
SAY WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!
'Fat' Jan 'Wobbly' Ghyselinck should NEVER be allowed to continue after missing the time cut. He probably had a drugs break halfway up each of the climbs and it wouldnt surprise me if he made Frank Schleck pee a lot either! GOSH this guy is a liability in the Tour. Always hogging the limelight but never producing the goods.0 -
Is the stage over? Did it ever start? Boring...0
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LeicesterLad wrote:iainf72 wrote:Crozza wrote:
was thinking of people trying to move from 10th to 7th (just as an example). worth it for the points/prestige/prize money?
Yes. Well, no one really gives a toss about the money, but the Tour is strange in that 7'th place means something. Which is one reason the racing can be incredibly negative.
This is in the main is what is to blame for sh*t Tours like this one. Riders happy to sit in the top ten and that be the be all and end all of their season. Nico Roche makes me sick for this, before the tour even starts he's banging on about getting a top 20 place as his goal, what a great team leader that makes him, eh.
tbf, Nico only just about seems to get to the targets he sets himself anyway, even then only in half the races he rides. If he went in saying he was aiming to win he'd just look silly.
He's also in the unfortunate position of not being bad enough to be allowed in a break that gains alot of time.
He shouldn't really be the pinnacle of Ag2R's GC hopes, but i wouldn't have thought they could afford any better, so at least the 8 riders not in the break each day have something to focus on.
Liked today's stage
or at least the final climb
Start watching 3 hours late with Sky+ recording and skip most of it, whilst stopping for anything that looks interesting. With the added benefit of not listening to Mr Francis.0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:oneof1982 wrote:Pross wrote:Rick Chasey wrote:Saw the average speed was 33.3kph....
S.L.O.W.
Half way up the final climb Harmon was saying they were ahead of any predicted times. This seemed odd but I assumed the stiff breeze was mainly behind them.
33 k.p.h. is the mid point speed quoted in the book. So not slow, A.V.E.R.A.G.E.
Seriously?
It's not even an MTF?
197k in 5hrs 35min makes 35.3 kmh by my reckoning"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
From what I saw, Wiggo had the measure of the pair of them.
From what I saw Froome would have dropped Wiggo when he chased down Niballi, I think Froome did more work on the final climb which is why Wiggo was a bit fresher at the finish.
Very very hot today. I was riding in the Alps and it was 33C and they say it was 3C hotter in the Pyrenees. Very white light as well, which is very tiring. Rode over the Grand Cucheron which was on one of the tour stages, luckily largely in the shade.This Tour has been has been won by Sky planning, training and riding as a unit to a set plan for seven months while never really putting a foot wrong,
They were lucky to avoid more accidents in the first week when they seemed to just be hanging around in the middle of the bunch waiting for Wiggo to get taken out.BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Wiggins did quite a good ride to shut down Nibali once and for all. Nobody looks to have any real ability to ride away from the others. Whoever's chasing or kicking, there isn't much to read into.0
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Indeed. Final km is flat.inkyfingers wrote:I reckon that unless the break stays away Wiggins might have a chance of winning the stage tomorrow.0 -
davidof wrote:From what I saw, Wiggo had the measure of the pair of them.
From what I saw Froome would have dropped Wiggo when he chased down Niballi, I think Froome did more work on the final climb which is why Wiggo was a bit fresher at the finish.
Very very hot today. I was riding in the Alps and it was 33C and they say it was 3C hotter in the Pyrenees. Very white light as well, which is very tiring. Rode over the Grand Cucheron which was on one of the tour stages, luckily largely in the shade.This Tour has been has been won by Sky planning, training and riding as a unit to a set plan for seven months while never really putting a foot wrong,
They were lucky to avoid more accidents in the first week when they seemed to just be hanging around in the middle of the bunch waiting for Wiggo to get taken out.
But he didn't. Did you mean could have?
In which case, perhaps you're right, he may have been able to open a gap - much like Nibs did, but would (I think) have had that gap gradually closed by Wiggo's much celebrated 'diesel' engine.
Lets face it, until we've seen Wiggo and the Froome dog dukeing it out over an entire mountain stage with no team orders, we will not know what the outcome could be. So all this increasingly irritating conjecture and supposition should just be put to bed.0 -
What's going on with Szmyd lately? - of all the climbing domestiques on all the teams, I reckon he'd be the very guy to do the very job that Liquigas would most want a climbing domestique to be doing right now. He singlehandedly decimates the entire field in any other race he does: why stop now in the most important one?0
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OCDuPalais wrote:What's going on with Szmyd lately? - of all the climbing domestiques on all the teams, I reckon he'd be the very guy to do the very job that Liquigas would most want a climbing domestique to be doing right now. He singlehandedly decimates the entire field in any other race he does: why stop now in the most important one?
I have a feeling that father time is catching up with him. I hope I'm wrong.0
