Silly Commuter Weight Loss

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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    It seems were now in competion to get our hrart rates down. Mine was 38 and he's claiming 37.
    FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
    FCN 4: Planet X Schmaffenschmack 2- workhorse
    FCN 9: B Twin Vitamin - winter commuter/loan bike for trainees

    I'm hungry. I'm always hungry!
  • EKE_38BPM wrote:
    It seems were now in competion to get our hrart rates down. Mine was 38 and he's claiming 37.


    Ooohh, how about a Silly Commuter Vital Signs website? HR, BP, HR recovery time, O2%, CO2%, VO2max.... :D
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
    It seems were now in competion to get our hrart rates down. Mine was 38 and he's claiming 37.


    Ooohh, how about a Silly Commuter Vital Signs website? HR, BP, HR recovery time, O2%, CO2%, VO2max.... :D

    No idea on O2% etc but my current HR is 40BPM.
    FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
    FCN 4: Planet X Schmaffenschmack 2- workhorse
    FCN 9: B Twin Vitamin - winter commuter/loan bike for trainees

    I'm hungry. I'm always hungry!
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    NAME             HEIGHT  START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark       1.86m   217lb        196lb         215lb       2lb         19lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       185lbs        198lbs      2lbs        13lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          92.3kg      0.7kg       10.3kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.3kg      0.7kg       6.3kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          94kg       +1kg         11kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          72kg        2kg         3kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         181.5lb     2.5lb       17.5lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          88kg        1kg         5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          106kg       2kg         11kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze             87kg         81kg          87kg        0kg         6kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   17.8St       15St          17.7St      0.0St       2.7St
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     12st 13lb   3lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          71kg        1kg         4kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          15st 4lb    8lb         32lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • We have a website now, here
    Asprilla wrote:

    NAME             HEIGHT  START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark       1.86m   217lb        196lb         215lb       2lb         19lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       185lbs        198lbs      2lbs        13lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          92.3kg      0.7kg       10.3kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.3kg      0.7kg       6.3kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          94kg       +1kg         11kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          72kg        2kg         3kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         181.5lb     2.5lb       17.5lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          88kg        1kg         5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          106kg       2kg         11kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze             87kg         81kg          87kg        0kg         6kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   17.8St       15St          17.7St      0.0St       2.7St
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     12st 13lb   3lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          71kg        1kg         4kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          15st 4lb    8lb         32lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Woot!

    Now, how do passwords work if we've already been registered?
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • Asprilla wrote:
    Woot!

    Now, how do passwords work if we've already been registered?
    password = username, so go change it....
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    New feature for the website suggestion: make the column headings clickable so you can sort them either alphabetically or numerically... I'd like to know where in the weight loss league I am!
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • New feature for the website suggestion: make the column headings clickable so you can sort them either alphabetically or numerically... I'd like to know where in the weight loss league I am!
    hmmm, let me think on that. with everyone using different measures shouldn't it be lost/(start-target) * 100% that is the measure of 'goodness'? then you'd only need sort by name or sort by % lost
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Got fed up with correcting things... so here's a website for you. Its straight HTML and PHP so should work on mobile browsers too...

    It may not have the latest data, I've not gone back over changes from the last day or so...

    I haven't done the registration or change password functions yet. Will do that later tonight. Til then your password is your username which is whatever is in the table already.

    PM me if you want it changed or any other issues...

    Cool. Now can you change it so that we can view it in imperial (st lbs, and just lbs) or metric and flick between the two. That'll be cool.
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • Sketchley wrote:
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    % of planned loss... tho its easier to loose 20% of 4kg than 20% of 40kg... so as a performance comparison its not great... (mind you, this isn't a race!) Was going to add BMI where height given, once i've worked out an easy way to massage everything into m and kg internally.
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Sketchley wrote:
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    % of planned loss... tho its easier to loose 20% of 4kg than 20% of 40kg... so as a performance comparison its not great... (mind you, this isn't a race!) Was going to add BMI where height given, once i've worked out an easy way to massage everything into m and kg internally.

    I'd work on the assumption that user only want to see the table in one or the other and not mixed. Then simply store weight in KGs and Height in CMs then convert when displaying based on a user setting. All the BMI and % calcs can then be done in metric.
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • Sketchley wrote:
    Sketchley wrote:
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    % of planned loss... tho its easier to loose 20% of 4kg than 20% of 40kg... so as a performance comparison its not great... (mind you, this isn't a race!) Was going to add BMI where height given, once i've worked out an easy way to massage everything into m and kg internally.

    I'd work on the assumption that user only want to see the table in one or the other and not mixed. Then simply store weight in KGs and Height in CMs then convert when displaying based on a user setting. All the BMI and % calcs can then be done in metric.
    Yes, thats the easy bit, already figured that out :lol:... its doing the conversion from a randomly entered string. Its not that difficult, just messy. And I dont want to do any front-end validation to keep the site clean, so its all server side (in php for simplicity).
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Sketchley wrote:
    Sketchley wrote:
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    % of planned loss... tho its easier to loose 20% of 4kg than 20% of 40kg... so as a performance comparison its not great... (mind you, this isn't a race!) Was going to add BMI where height given, once i've worked out an easy way to massage everything into m and kg internally.

    I'd work on the assumption that user only want to see the table in one or the other and not mixed. Then simply store weight in KGs and Height in CMs then convert when displaying based on a user setting. All the BMI and % calcs can then be done in metric.
    Yes, thats the easy bit, already figured that out :lol:... its doing the conversion from a randomly entered string. Its not that difficult, just messy. And I dont want to do any front-end validation to keep the site clean, so its all server side (in php for simplicity).

    Depending on the user setting

    if KGs or lbs just a simple box that only accepts an value maybe to one decimal place
    If the user setting in st&lbs then two boxes one for each.
    Similar stuff for height.

    If an awkward user want to enter weight in KGs but display in lbs they can go forth....
    --
    Chris

    Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5
  • Asprilla wrote:
        ................START.........TARGET..........NOW..........SO FAR.........TO GO   
        itboffin .......184lbs........164lbs..........184lbs.......0lbs...........20lbs
        Sketchley ......257lbs........210lbs..........257lbs.......0lbs...........47lbs
        clarkey cat ....214lbs........187lbs..........200lbs.......0lbs...........13lbs
        keyser__soze....87kgs.........81kgs...........87kgs........0kgs...........6kgs
        cib ............196lbs........178lbs..........196lbs.......0lbs...........18lbs
        Agent57         13st 9lb      11st 11lb       13st 9lb     0lb            1st 12lb
        meanredspider...95kg..........85kg............95kg.........0kg............10kg
        Leodis75........204 lb .......168 lb .........204 lb.......0kg............36 lb
        Tabh............275lbs........238lbs..........275lbs.......0lbs...........37lbs
        Asprilla........159lbs........144lbs..........159lbs.......0lbs...........15lbs
        BONKSTRONG......231lbs........187lbs..........231lbs.......0lbs...........44lbs
    

    In my last Thai Boxing interclub fighting day I weighed in at 187lbs, 2 days later I quit smoking and ballooned to my current 231lbs in just over 12 months. Hopefully it'll come off as easy as it went on...
  • http://www.kisolutionz.co.uk/listing.php

    Bonkstrong. Your details have been updated here in the full list.
  • ToeKnee
    ToeKnee Posts: 376
    http://www.kisolutionz.co.uk/listing.php

    We appear to have two "phy2sll2" entries?
    Seneca wrote:
    It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
    Specialized TriCross Sport+Ultegra+Rack&Bag+Guards+Exposure Lights - FCN 7
    Track:Condor 653, MTB:GT Zaskar, Road & TT:Condors.
  • ToeKnee wrote:
    http://www.kisolutionz.co.uk/listing.php

    We appear to have two "phy2sll2" entries?
    Different user names, one has a capital 'P'. I'll fix that tonight, can't access the FTP site from work (well not easily, I have to break our security, which I can do but don't like to).
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • phy2sll2
    phy2sll2 Posts: 680
    Yeah, sorry! I didn't check the list (or read the post) properly!
  • phy2sll2 wrote:
    Yeah, sorry! I didn't check the list (or read the post) properly!
    No probs. Fixed now...
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    Sketchley wrote:
    Ummm yes but... You'll need to be careful with stones and pounds. Though it may be you could split out the weight columns to auto convert to the other units ?

    I think I'd still quite like to see a raw figure though, 2kg loss sounds was better than 1.68%.... :) you know you want to!

    % lost of what, target or body weight, that doesn't really work. How about BMI and BMI lost you could calculate that.
    % of planned loss... tho its easier to loose 20% of 4kg than 20% of 40kg... so as a performance comparison its not great... (mind you, this isn't a race!) Was going to add BMI where height given, once i've worked out an easy way to massage everything into m and kg internally.

    BMI is a bully, I'm not a beast and it should stop calling me names.

    I'll have a better think about comparable measurement. Rest assured though I was only trying to work out a way I could look fastest/best/top. Now, if only Strava recorded a momentum based leader board for segments...
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    NAME             HEIGHT  START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark       1.86m   217lb        196lb         215lb       2lb         19lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       185lbs        198lbs      2lbs        13lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          92.3kg      0.7kg       10.3kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.3kg      0.7kg       6.3kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          94kg       +1kg         11kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          72kg        2kg         3kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         181.5lb     2.5lb       17.5lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          88kg        1kg         5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          106kg       2kg         11kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze             87kg         81kg          87kg        0kg         6kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     12st 13lb   3lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          71kg        1kg         4kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          15st 4lb    8lb         32lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    

    lost one royal kg!
    Keeping it classy since '83
  • Use the website. Use your username as the password then go change password....
    mudcow007 wrote:
    NAME             HEIGHT  START        TARGET        NOW         SO FAR      TO GO
    Agent57                  13st 9lb     11st 11lb     13st 7lb    2lb         1st 10lb
    Allez Mark       1.86m   217lb        196lb         215lb       2lb         19lb
    Anomymousblackfg 1.86m   92kg         82kg          92kg        0kg         10kg
    Asprilla                 72kg         65kg          74.5kg      -2.5kg      9.5kg
    cib                      88kg         81kg          88kg        0kg         7kg
    clarkey cat      1.86m   200lbs       185lbs        198lbs      2lbs        13lb
    Cush123                  93kg         82kg          92.3kg      0.7kg       10.3kg
    cyclingprop              119kg        105kg*        119kg       0kg         14kg
    Dodgerdog                82kg         75kg          81.3kg      0.7kg       6.3kg
    Dog Breath       1.75m   75kg         68kg          73.0kg      2.0kg       5.0kg
    Initialised      1.8m    93kg         83kg          94kg       +1kg         11kg
    IP                       74kg         69kg          72kg        2kg         3kg
    itboffin                 184lb        164lb         181.5lb     2.5lb       17.5lb
    JT                       89kg         83kg          88kg        1kg         5kg
    JZed             1.94m   108kg        95kg          106kg       2kg         11kg
    KateF                    64kg         58kg          64kg        0kg         6kg
    keyser__soze             87kg         81kg          87kg        0kg         6kg
    Leodis75                 93kg         76kg          93kg        0kg         17kg
    meanredspider            95kg         85kg          95kg        0kg         10kg
    mkirby                   99kg         85kg          99kg        0kg         14kg
    MsMancunia               73kg         59kg          73kg        0kg         14kg
    Mudcow007        1.87m   113kg        15St          112kg       1kg         10kg
    ngale                    13st 10lb    9st 6lb       13st 10lb   0lb         4st 4lb
    OptimisticBiker  1.70m   69kg         65kg          69kg        0kg         4kg
    Phy2sll2         1.77m   66kg         58kg          63kg        3kg         5kg
    Roger Merriman   6ft     13st 3lb     12st 10lb     12st 13lb   3lb         6lb
    Sketchley                117kg        95kg          115kg       2kg         20kg
    Stevo 666        1.77m   72kg         67kg          71kg        1kg         4kg
    Tabh                     125kg        108kg         125kg       0kg         17kg
    TailWindHome             86kg         75kg          86kg        0kg         11kg
    TheStone         1.85m   93kg         85.5kg        92.5kg      0.5kg       7kg
    ToeKnee          1.89m   96kg         86kg          94.5kg      1.5kg       8.5kg
    Welkman          1.91m   15st 12lb    13st          15st 4lb    8lb         32lb
    WesternWay               106kg        85kg          106kg       0kg         21kg
    Wineboar                 122kg        100kg         118.8kg     3.2kg       18.8kg
    Woodnut                  75kg         69kg          75kg        0kg         6kg
    

    lost one royal kg!
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • ToeKnee
    ToeKnee Posts: 376
    mudcow007 wrote:
    lost one royal kg!
    Best record it here then :arrow: http://www.kisolutionz.co.uk/listing.php
    Seneca wrote:
    It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
    Specialized TriCross Sport+Ultegra+Rack&Bag+Guards+Exposure Lights - FCN 7
    Track:Condor 653, MTB:GT Zaskar, Road & TT:Condors.
  • clarkey cat
    clarkey cat Posts: 3,641
    my body seems to react very badly whenever I go below 90kg... I feel faint, I have an uncomfortable gnawing sensation in my stomach and I'm distracted by the smell of chips, fried blood sausage and baking bread.

    I'm not in terrible shape. I obviously have some very dense muscle mass - or body dysphmorphia syndrome.
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    I tried to update tonight but it won't let me :(
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • I tried to update tonight but it won't let me :(
    oh? what did it do?

    shows an update @ 22:28
    Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph :cry:
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    I tried changing my password again - the data updates haven't been made so, summary is :

    - logged in (successful)
    - go to edit my entry
    - submit changes
    - website says my password is wrong, but it let me log on already.

    My gut says there is a second password call when you go to update and it's not registering a change in the pw db when you change from the initial pw (though the log in screen seems fine - its just the update procedure). But I've not changed my pw back to validate the theory... Thoughts?

    UPDATE: I'm a blind fool and didn't spot the pw box on the update page. Ignore the above!!
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?