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  • jzed
    jzed Posts: 2,926
    IP - Chapeau on the time.
    Il Principe wrote:
    I'd be surprised if any of the top 10 SCR's on Strava were set whilst commuting,

    Mine was. Think the time was on the Planet X last year with backpack, but I'm close this year on the Dolan which weighs a tonne.

    Probably going to head to the park tonight and see what I can do (will be nowhere near sub-17 though).
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    You'll be close John, good wind today at 6.30 onwards east...
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  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    edited May 2012
    MY CURRENT PLACE: 1122nd / 1384
    MY CURRENT SCR PLACE: 57th/64

    :-|
    What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    JZed wrote:
    IP - Chapeau on the time.
    Il Principe wrote:
    I'd be surprised if any of the top 10 SCR's on Strava were set whilst commuting,

    Mine was. Think the time was on the Planet X last year with backpack, but I'm close this year on the Dolan which weighs a tonne.

    Kudos.

    How much difference to people think a bag makes though? I rode a tonne on Sat with a loaded overnight bag, didn't feel like it made that much difference to speed. Averaged 18.8mph. Not massively comfortable though!
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Il Principe wrote:
    JZed wrote:
    IP - Chapeau on the time.
    Il Principe wrote:
    I'd be surprised if any of the top 10 SCR's on Strava were set whilst commuting,

    Mine was. Think the time was on the Planet X last year with backpack, but I'm close this year on the Dolan which weighs a tonne.

    Kudos.

    How much difference to people think a bag makes though? I rode a tonne on Sat with a loaded overnight bag, didn't feel like it made that much difference to speed. Averaged 18.8mph. Not massively comfortable though!

    Probably not that much - nearly all my KOMs are on the commute with work bag (sometimes quite loaded), winter bike and usually baggies as well. For longer rides I do feel a sense of liberation getting the best bike out and decent kit on, probably makes a bigger psychological difference than anything else.
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  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    Il Principe wrote:
    JZed wrote:
    IP - Chapeau on the time.
    Il Principe wrote:
    I'd be surprised if any of the top 10 SCR's on Strava were set whilst commuting,

    Mine was. Think the time was on the Planet X last year with backpack, but I'm close this year on the Dolan which weighs a tonne.

    Kudos.

    How much difference to people think a bag makes though? I rode a tonne on Sat with a loaded overnight bag, didn't feel like it made that much difference to speed. Averaged 18.8mph. Not massively comfortable though!


    I would imagine my race bike is 2kg lighter than my commuter and my rucksack is probably 3/4kg so its probably around 5kg, quite a chunk! But the biggest difference will be the £10 tyres on the commuter and the non aero wheels. Its been calculated how much difference weight makes, its not massive, but it will make a difference. Especially when its getting on for a stone.
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  • jzed
    jzed Posts: 2,926
    Il Principe wrote:
    How much difference to people think a bag makes though? I rode a tonne on Sat with a loaded overnight bag, didn't feel like it made that much difference to speed. Averaged 18.8mph. Not massively comfortable though!

    Don't think it makes that much difference. I've done the KW Thursday night chaingangs with it. For longer rides its more of a comfort thing.
  • okgo
    okgo Posts: 4,368
    Also bear in mind that if you're trying to be aerodynamic a block on your back aint helping!
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  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    nice little unexpected KOM this morning, was expecting a 2nd best time as I got slowed a bit by the odd car... masses of fish and chips the night before FTW
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  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    Agreed. If I ride CW to Richmond and chuck in a few laps of the park its 30 odd miles and it starts to hurt the lower back.

    Also, if Im bombing down saywers (legally, naturally) on the drops with a flatish back, I cant help but think the giant bulge on my back isint the most aero thing to exist.

    Someone should invent an SCR back pack thats nicely profiled like a sharks fin
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    ...or it smooths out the turbulent airflow behind your head*. Discuss.


    * not being entirely serious
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  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    oo oo .. something akin to the philosophy of why superbike riders now have leathers with a inbuilt rear neck expander panel thingymerjib.

    So the rucksack would have most of its mass at the top and funnel down to a point at the small of the back. Not sure how comfortable it wold be, or how practical fitting your trousers, shirt, cheese and pickle sandwich and a pork pie in.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JZed wrote:
    Il Principe wrote:
    How much difference to people think a bag makes though? I rode a tonne on Sat with a loaded overnight bag, didn't feel like it made that much difference to speed. Averaged 18.8mph. Not massively comfortable though!

    Don't think it makes that much difference. I've done the KW Thursday night chaingangs with it. For longer rides its more of a comfort thing.

    Depends on whether you have a rucksack/backpack or what can at best be described as a man-bag.

    I still go faster without the backpack, but I find the extra effort to get up Sawyer's and Dark Hill takes its toll more over three laps. As said above, the lower back starts to ache.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    I've never seen JZeds man bag. Unfortunately I wansnt at the Club 10 when he went balls out.


    (Too much.. ? :) )
  • Green Brompton
    Green Brompton Posts: 972
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

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  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!

    Don't know about iPhones, but I recorded a century ride on my HTC without the battery dying - Strava isn't too heavy on battery from my experience. Good luck with the ride!
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  • jzed
    jzed Posts: 2,926
    You should be ok for 60 miles. Think I got to Southend and part of the way back before mine gave up a couple of years ago.
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.
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  • Green Brompton
    Green Brompton Posts: 972
    JZed wrote:
    You should be ok for 60 miles. Think I got to Southend and part of the way back before mine gave up a couple of years ago.

    I'm on the Brompton, so a slightly more leisurely pace. Seemed to kill the battery before. I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers peeps.
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

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  • Green Brompton
    Green Brompton Posts: 972
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.

    Perfect answer. Thanks. :-)
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

    Brompton SL2
    Ridley Icarus SLS
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Green Brompton wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.

    Perfect answer. Thanks. :-)
    NP. You still need a Garmin.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.

    Perfect answer. Thanks. :-)
    NP. You still need a Garmin.
    Holux, £55 in the UK or cheaper through DX. Battery lasts 28 hours. Sounds plausible, I've done a week's commuting and it still shows full charge.
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  • Green Brompton
    Green Brompton Posts: 972
    Veronese68 wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.

    Perfect answer. Thanks. :-)
    NP. You still need a Garmin.
    Holux, £55 in the UK or cheaper through DX. Battery lasts 28 hours. Sounds plausible, I've done a week's commuting and it still shows full charge.

    I'm hoping to get the Garmin Edge 800 as that's had awesome reviews - Plus it sounds like it will make me work harder, which I need to do, plus if I get into club riding / racing it sounds like it works well for that too. I haven't heard of the Holux, but could be a more affordable contender? Will Google this weekend. :D
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

    Brompton SL2
    Ridley Icarus SLS
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,821
    Green Brompton wrote:
    Veronese68 wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Green Brompton wrote:
    OK, I have a QQ. I'm going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow, if my iPhone battery dies on me whilst recording Strava, will I lose the ride data, or will it save it as an unfinished ride? I know I need to get a Garmin Edge!
    Switch the phone from 3G to GSM (Settings, General, Network, switch off 3G). That saves the battery life a fair bit. Turn it back on once you're done though.

    Perfect answer. Thanks. :-)
    NP. You still need a Garmin.
    Holux, £55 in the UK or cheaper through DX. Battery lasts 28 hours. Sounds plausible, I've done a week's commuting and it still shows full charge.

    I'm hoping to get the Garmin Edge 800 as that's had awesome reviews - Plus it sounds like it will make me work harder, which I need to do, plus if I get into club riding / racing it sounds like it works well for that too. I haven't heard of the Holux, but could be a more affordable contender? Will Google this weekend. :D
    My Holux is nearer to a Garmin Edge 200, but even cheaper. Doesn't do any of the mapping, heart rate or cadence. But I'm not fussed about that. The software is a bit more clunky as well. Holux do posher models than mine though.
    The Edge 800 is supposed to be very good, but I don't need most of it's functions. Come to that I don't need my Holux, but it's a bit of fun.
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    I'm liking my Holux, but then I haven't used a Garmin to compare. Still, picked up a KoM this morning:

    http://app.strava.com/rides/8777941#161108459

    Would have been even better if I had come along the main road, rather than turning onto it just before the segment start. At one point I was 12s down on the previous KoM.
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  • Green Brompton
    Green Brompton Posts: 972
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    I'm liking my Holux, but then I haven't used a Garmin to compare. Still, picked up a KoM this morning:

    http://app.strava.com/rides/8777941#161108459

    Would have been even better if I had come along the main road, rather than turning onto it just before the segment start. At one point I was 12s down on the previous KoM.

    Nice one. See, I'm fine with the iPhone app, it seems to work well. But I was concerned about a longer route tomorrow, and the battery going dead. I'd like a speedometer though as there's a certain hill I have my eye on where I need to hit the high speeds in order to reclaim SCR victory.
    Why? Because I'm guaranteed a seat all the way in.

    Brompton SL2
    Ridley Icarus SLS
  • Origamist
    Origamist Posts: 807
    It’s quite satisfying working out who the CS7 KOMs are on Strava as I know we are v likely to have crossed paths before.

    Using my Inspector Clouseau-like detective skills, I figured out two people this afternoon. One chap because he rides a Titanium single-speed and is a Norwood Paragon (easy to work out) and another because he rides without any fear pretty much regardless of the traffic conditions (and he mentioned his name was Steve!).
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Green Brompton wrote:
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    I'm liking my Holux, but then I haven't used a Garmin to compare. Still, picked up a KoM this morning:

    http://app.strava.com/rides/8777941#161108459

    Would have been even better if I had come along the main road, rather than turning onto it just before the segment start. At one point I was 12s down on the previous KoM.

    Nice one. See, I'm fine with the iPhone app, it seems to work well. But I was concerned about a longer route tomorrow, and the battery going dead. I'd like a speedometer though as there's a certain hill I have my eye on where I need to hit the high speeds in order to reclaim SCR victory.

    Wait until the iPhone app does what my Android one did; stopped recording after about 1-2 miles of my commute. Missed out on some of the best tailwinds, absolutely killed the KoMs on several sections, got to the end of my commute and the bloody thing had recorded my warm-up and nothing more.

    Once was bad enough, but I spent nearly a two weeks repeatedly ripping the pedals off my bike for nothing.
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Origamist wrote:
    It’s quite satisfying working out who the CS7 KOMs are on Strava as I know we are v likely to have crossed paths before.

    Using my Inspector Clouseau detective skills, I figured out two people this afternoon. One chap because he rides a Titanium single-speed and is a Norwood Paragon (easy to work out) and another because he rides without any fear pretty much regardless of the traffic conditions (and he mentioned his name was Steve!).
    Oi, I have a few on CS7 too, but you already schooled me when I moved to Balham :oops:
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  • raffa cakes
    raffa cakes Posts: 30
    Green Brompton wrote:
    Nice one. See, I'm fine with the iPhone app, it seems to work well. But I was concerned about a longer route tomorrow, and the battery going dead. I'd like a speedometer though as there's a certain hill I have my eye on where I need to hit the high speeds in order to reclaim SCR victory.
    Strava is quite a drain, I would guess something like 20% per hour? turning off 3G would help but if I was you I would stop Strava before the battery flats entirely. I have trust issues with the Strava app after it lost a few rides in the past...

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