So it's all kicked off in Totenham !!!
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Barteos wrote:We aren't equal and most of the problems are caused by members of lowest classes of the society, not because of their "poverty" but mental thickness.
Have you got anything whatsoever to back this up?
And if its true, what do you suggest we do with these 'thick lower classes'?Mañana0 -
Rick Chasey wrote:Seems to be heading West according to twitter. Ealing + Wimbledon
They'd lie if they were smart and head elsewhere wouldn't they?0 -
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Here's the sort of maggot that inhabits the area, the criminal, unemployable scumbags who just need a bullet in the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Nh-fTv1Gm8
Pretending to help some poor guy who's been beaten up by some thug (Who also needs a bullet in the head), whilst really just looking for an excuse to rob them!
Come on you bleeding heart, Guardian readers, start moaning about me & this post.Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
A bitdilemna wrote:MattC59 wrote:As much as I'm going ot get flamed for this, the situation is now extreme, it's now time to bring in the army to bolster the numbers of the police.
Millions of £££ of danage is being caused, people are being indiscriminantly attacked and lives are now at risk.
Treat fire with fire. Anyone in the area of the riots should expect to be subject to the same treatment. If you're in the area to spectate, then tough, you're becoming an obstruction.
When the chief of Poliice says "right boys, I'm putting my job on the line here, but it's time to take the gloves off" he'll gain a great deal of respect.
And to make things worse, I've got to drive to Ipswich now !!!
You've changed your tune and done a U turn. Next you'll be calling for rioters and looters to be shot
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I'm not advcating putting the army on the streets and giving them control to sort the mess out. I'm syaing thay they should be there in numbers to reinforce the police. A lot of the army are trained in riot control (so I heard from a soldier on the radio this morning). So put them in their riot gear and put them on the streets. I'd like to think that the scumbags causing trouble would think twice when confronted by few couple of hundred soldiers charging in full riot gear.
Of course, the problem here is, do we have sufficient soldiers in the UK at the moment ? Again, I heard on the radio that there are a couple of battalions of soldiers, (so between 600 and 2400 I guess ?) who are essentially on call for such events, but the rest are on rotation in the various combat zones around the world.Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
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send in the polar bears.The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
Cleat Eastwood wrote:send in the polar bears.
Polar Bears only go after the Eton types.0 -
MickTup wrote:
This sort of thing just winds me up! Attack the rich people because they have worked and bothered to do something and improve their own lives. We all live by the same rules and laws!
They are mad at the government.....yet they have no idea who the government actually is. The reporter should have kicked these 2 girls in the head!0 -
Perhaps its the scums way of claiming expenses or earning a nice little bonus at other peoples expense.
Its not just the thick scum that ruin this country, just scum.Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel0 -
OffTheBackAdam wrote:Here's the sort of maggot that inhabits the area, the criminal, unemployable scumbags who just need a bullet in the head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Nh-fTv1Gm8
Pretending to help some poor guy who's been beaten up by some thug (Who also needs a bullet in the head), whilst really just looking for an excuse to rob them!
Come on you bleeding heart, Guardian readers, start moaning about me & this post.
Have you ever actually met a Guardian reader? Cos I'm one and I think it's inexcusable and I hope they end up with a nice stretch inside.
Next stereotype, please.0 -
They won't call the army in, Cameron and the Police Commissioner guy (mr. no-name) don't want to lose face. They don't want to admit they can't keep control of the city.
Guess what, they can't keep control of the city.
If this was Syria, it'd be different. People like to scoff at places like Syria and say how "advanced" our society is. Well, this is the downside to that. No rule of law. No cops.
Cops here have outsourced policing to CCTV cameras. I wish I could outsource my income tax to someone else.When a cyclist has a disagreement with a car; it's not who's right, it's who's left.0 -
You're dead right.
I'm off to Syria. It's bound to be loads better.0 -
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fast as fupp wrote:
*sings* everyones a little bit racist */sings*
Besides, its merely an observation.0 -
It is actually possible to be appalled by the idiots doing this sort of thing and to actually try and understand why so many are preparded to be involved. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Look at Hitlers Germany to understand that society can have a big influence on how people behave. Good people can (and do) do very bad things.
Many of these rioters are simply thieves who realise they have the perfect opportunity to feather their nests.
What is a bigger worry is why so many are prepared to go on a destructive rampage. If it was just the extreme end of society who don't give two hoots it wouldn't gain momentum, those nutters are complete loose cannons. The fact it has gained such momentum shows there is a much larger group of disaffected people who feel they have nothing to lose.
That is a problem for our society as we are losing these people. What is actually on offer for them? Like it or not, society is failing a large group of people that goes beyond just those who would never achieve anything under any circumstances.
Having said that, right now, we need to restore order and that does warrant a heavy handed approach.0 -
"The reporter should have kicked these 2 girls in the head!"
"...scumbags who just need a bullet in the head."
"...most of the problems are caused by members of lowest classes of the society, not because of their "poverty" but mental thickness."
Just a small sample from the last two pages. Real nice people, eh?
Whilst there's no excuse for looting, there's no excuse for those kinds of comments. "Do you feel proud?" is just as relevant a question for these people making these comments here on a cycling forum.0 -
The guy who had his rucksack looted was probably another looter going by the fresh wrapper that was thrown off whatever it was that was taken0
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Numerous independent record labels (Domino, FatCat, Big Dada, Warp, Soul Jazz, Beggars) and smaller film distributors (BFI, Artificial Eye and Dogwoof) fear they have lost a catastrophic amount of stock in the Sony warehouse blaze.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/au ... ndon-riots0 -
Panic on the streets of London
Panic on the streets of Birmingham
And I wonder to myself
When will they declare a curfew and deploy the snipers?
Pick off anybody looking threatening
Once the first 10 were shot there would be much less appetite for destruction0 -
Here's the sort of apologist for their behaviour.
Lee Jasper. He was once advisor to former Mayor of London Ken Livingstone, and for this role as the Mayor’s social sage and professional victim was paid well over a hundred thousand pounds of taxpayers’ money. Perhaps he should use some of this – and the other cash raised through other less honourable means – to fund these projects rather than bleating about problems that don’t exist and justifying his own self-appointed role and existence.
He spouted a load of shite in the Daily Mail.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ds-newsxml
even suggested that businesses were attacked for not helping to create projects for under-privileged youths, even asking “when did Currys [the electrical store] build a school?”
Erm, no. The branch of Currys in Tottenham was attacked and subsequently ransacked because it happened to contain electronic items: stereos, televisions, DVD players, mobile phones. One has to wonder if the B&Q around the corner – which wasn’t targeted by the looters – was left alone on account of its local youth project record? As if these people even give a shit about school anyway, save it being a gathering point where you can conveniently recruit for gangs, deal drugs and stab overworked teachers.Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
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Lets face it there is bound to be a racist element underlying most of the Daily Reich hang em high comments.
Another stereotype we could use is that road cycling is primarily a middle class white sport/pastime, with under representation from ethnic minorities? You don't see many top black cyclists on Le Tour now do you?
I saw plenty of white people in the crowds too, just as angry as the rest.
The working class young of this country have got nothing whatsoever to look forward to- unemployment, or a lifetimes debt through a useless college/uni degree that will not improve their chances in life-the UK is no meritocracy, the best jobs always go to the middle class and above due to "connections", poor housing(if they can even get one)
I , like most of you will never understand the mindset of these folk trapped in inner city estate ghettos, but I can empathise at why they are so angry.
And has anyone considered that maybe they're not thick- hence the attacks on business and retail outlets while distracting the police? They cause the same havoc but without the baton to the head and get some stuff for free. The businesses will just add the damage costs to their future prices, then the government can bludgeon us all with some new laws restricting our liberties in the name of protecting us.
Could well be the desired end game the government really wants.....0 -
OllyRidesFirst wrote:MickTup wrote:
This sort of thing just winds me up! Attack the rich people because they have worked and bothered to do something and improve their own lives. We all live by the same rules and laws!
They are mad at the government.....yet they have no idea who the government actually is. The reporter should have kicked these 2 girls in the head!
Seconed! They have absolutly no idea! They don't know who the gouvernment is, they try to justify their actions by saying that they're "showing the police that they can do what they like".....why? They have no say anymore. And then when asked why they are targeting locals, they reason by saying it's the people with busnisses who are rich that they are targeting. 1. People who own busnisses can very often not be rich, unless the business is thriving, which in the current climate, is very difficult to achieve. 2. Local residents who don't own busnisses have also been caught up in the mess, causing people to have to jump out of burning buildings to save them selfs, and 3. the reason you may not be rich yourself is the fact you aren't at work and you're fucking drinking wine at 9:30am!! What a couple of dense, thoughtless, idiotic woman. The BBC should have issued that reporter with a tazer.Pain is weakness leaving the body.....I have a lot of weakness!
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I don't know who the REAL government is either, but the puppets of the ConDem are just that- puppets. Cameron/Clegg are as much in control as that other prick over the Atlantic is in control of his gaff.
Corporations and Banks run the world, innit?0 -
We have just signed a new player, one of 'arry's deals probably as I've never heard of him. Anyone know what Grabatelli is like?
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The reporter on the beeb went to a court hearing of the first rioters to appear before the law. One was a graphic designer, one a student and one had just joined the army. Hardly disadvantaged youth.
The maximum sentence the court can apply is six weeks so their cases have been deferred to appear at a crown court where sentences can reach a maximum of 10 years.The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns
momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.0 -
Stewie Griffin wrote:We have just signed a new player, one of 'arry's deals probably as I've never heard of him. Anyone know what Grabatelli is like?
Ahem :oops:
At 1080p he's a bargain.0 -
Martincan wrote:The BBC should have issued that reporter with a tazer.
I'll watch out for you and your tazer if i'm riding out Salisbury way this week. I'll be the socialist apologist reading my copy of the Guardian whilst riding from Warminster way.
I'll still say hi though.
You were making good sense before the tazer bit. Seriously...0
Wow, I've never been accused of that before. 
