Scott Addict SL

Ben6899

Holy "Any Which Way But Loose", Batman!

mouth

I ride a Carrera with the stem and saddle roughly level, but I still get a kick from this.

mouth

I ride a Carrera with the stem and saddle roughly level, but I still get a kick from this.

Crimmey

You wont get far not thinking outside of the box Will, you just follow your sheepy instincts amd whoever else you want to follow. INfact did you get a bike fit after asking people on here about your ' sit up and beg' position? Ugh. DId I ever say the bike didn't fit me?.... dumb ass. Very comfy ride which I have already said. Anything you don't understand about that sentence?

To the guy who said I shoulda got a TT bike - already got one. Can't get low enough on it yet so ordered another stem You can have a laugh on that too when its sorted. Its 'ok' now but I strive to get a better position.


Going off to cry because I don't conform to the majority and not because my saddle has pierced my bollox.

I only wanted to show off the wheels as I'd only just got them Don't tell me you don't like the look of them either?

Crimmey

Saddle angle does help with wieght distribution in my case.If I tilt it more forward I have to push on the levers because the weight is over the bars and my arms ache, unable to pull. This way, I dont and I can pull on the levers to get more power and arms are fine. If thats imagining it then I have a very vivd imagination. Unless you can explain it some other way why that is the case? yeah, must be imagining it.

I shoulda just kept quiet becuase these two posts are gonna spark a riot. GO GO GO.

Keith1983

To be fair mate, the wheels look nice, and you'd know as your nose must be about an inch off the front one. I have to agree that it is one extreme position you've got your bike set up to. If it works for you then fair play, but I can understand people asking for pictures just to see someone on a bike with such an extreme set up.

rolf_f

Crimmey wrote:

Saddle angle does help with wieght distribution in my case.If I tilt it more forward I have to push on the levers because the weight is over the bars and my arms ache, unable to pull. This way, I dont and I can pull on the levers to get more power and arms are fine. If thats imagining it then I have a very vivd imagination. Unless you can explain it some other way why that is the case? yeah, must be imagining it.

I shoulda just kept quiet becuase these two posts are gonna spark a riot. GO GO GO.

Your weight is where your weight is; it is determined by the physical position of your body and what you are sat on makes no difference to that though it can (and in this case does) exert a force. A seesaw will balance in the middle irrespective of the shape of the fulcrum. All the saddle is doing is stopping you from sliding forward and the reason it is doing that is because your bike isn't set up correctly. I don't really get all this push pull stuff. You should normally feel neutral on the bars. You should be able to comfortably hold position with your hands just above the bars but not touching them. Effectively, rather than having a comfortable, neutral set up you are countering the poor weight distribution that puts too much weight up front by a saddle angle that forces you back. It must be a bit like being on a rack!

I understand the point about not having normal geometry (I have long legs, short body and don't fit many standard frames well) but you should be able to get a fit that looks relatively normal and which will be far more comfortable than that.

jame58rown

No pics of you on it then?...

Crimmey

Ok, Aren't I changing the angle of force therefore distributing weight differently rather than a shape of fulcrum (UH)? I have also previously said that I tilt it back to sit on my sit bones ( more comfy) which when neutral/ tilted down I cannot. I could do that if I was sat very upright but I dont want to do that. in fact my balls murder if its tilted down as I slide forward as you say and my weight crushes them. I just end up sitting on the middle bit between my legs even if neutral. By the way I set up my saddle before 'correcting' the stem numerous times. That throws that one out of the window but then its only my word you have? You tell me why I should change a very comfy. very aero position? Because it looks strange? Lets all change our comfy positions for something thats not because you said so.

Again, where have I ever said the position is uncomfy? Getting boring this more comfortable position crap that you are all spouting, cant you think of anything more constructive? DO I type and no one reads what I have to say, I guess your minds are already made up?

Yeah the stem looks a bit daft, Don't you think Ive tried changing it just to please the non believers? Ive got umpteen of them included different sized adjustable ones. YOu can buy them all off me if you want? I've finally found the one.

lemoncurd

I like your conviction Crimmey, sounds as if you've spent a lot of time getting your bike setup to meet your needs (or this is a long running joke).

Handlebar height is a compromise between performance, handling and comfort. I think that most of the posters on here find it difficult to believe that you can go so low and not compromise comfort and handling, a lot of riders would find a pro's setup too uncomfortable for long rides and your setup is even more extreme.

As for the saddle angle, you've lost me there, I'd be sliding off the back.

A couple of pictures would be good.

Wheels are cool btw, bet they're a bugger to keep clean though.

amaferanga

Crimmey wrote:

....You tell me why I should change a very comfy. very aero position? Because it looks strange? Lets all change our comfy positions for something thats not because you said so.

Because you could probably find a position that is still aero yet more efficient, allowing you to maximise your power output?

The simple fact is that unless you're incredibly unusual in your physiology then either your position on the bike is not ideal OR everyone else is wrong and we should all have a set-up like yours.

rolf_f

Ultimately, there is a reason that most peoples bike setups look the same. If you do have unusual proportions it will result in a bike that looks a little odd and these pages are filled with, for example, pictures of bikes with relatively low saddles that often unjustly get their owners a bit of stick from people who don't understand that people can have short legs.

However, your setup is so outlandish that unless you looked like Mr Tickle, it's hard to see how it would work. I suspect everyone on this thread would happily bet a weeks wages that if you went for a professional bike fit, the fitter would not end up by saying it was fine as it is.

freehub

Crimmey wrote:

You wont get far not thinking outside of the box Will, you just follow your sheepy instincts amd whoever else you want to follow. INfact did you get a bike fit after asking people on here about your ' sit up and beg' position? Ugh. DId I ever say the bike didn't fit me?.... dumb ass. Very comfy ride which I have already said. Anything you don't understand about that sentence?

To the guy who said I shoulda got a TT bike - already got one. Can't get low enough on it yet so ordered another stem You can have a laugh on that too when its sorted. Its 'ok' now but I strive to get a better position.


Going off to cry because I don't conform to the majority and not because my saddle has pierced my bollox.

I only wanted to show off the wheels as I'd only just got them Don't tell me you don't like the look of them either?

I'd rather ride a sit up and beg bike than that, if I rode with my saddle like that I'd be in hospital having tests wondering what is wrong with my balls after having them crushed for hours on end, I reckon it'd do me more damage than wearing ball stranglers.

It's not out of the box thinking, if that was really an ideal position much better than the average bike setup you'd see positions like that in races... but you don't, I wonder why?

You never said the bike did not fit you, but it clearly must not if you need a position like that....

I have had a bike fit in the past, infact, my "sit up and beg" is suiting me well.





If he went for a bike set up, he'd come out with a "sit up and beg" position like the majority of us... lol

I've sat on bikes with saddle pointing up, it's the most horrible thing ever, perhaps a woman would like it though, maybe tilt it so it's straight up.

rajMAN

On a positive note - the frame looks good!

mouth

If this is your 'actual' riding position, why haven't you got rid of the top of the steerer?

upperoilcan

Wow that's some set up !

I can honestly say that i would not want to be behind you should the need for you to fart arise......

inseine

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dawebbo

I'd like to see some pictures of you riding a horse or wrestling a bear.

Please tell me you riding this while wearing a vest and a full face helmet - that would perfect the mental image I have.

noiseboyfeetman

Out of interest can you actually see where your going? I assume you must be able to but surely you can't see much in front of you ie. pot holes to avoid? Does your neck not ache after rides from looking up at the road ahead?

Garry H

noiseboyfeetman wrote:

Out of interest can you actually see where your going? I assume you must be able to but surely you can't see much in front of you ie. pot holes to avoid? Does your neck not ache after rides from looking up at the road ahead?

I think he uses the latest Oakley Periscopes!!

wiffachip

you just know a 5 page thread must be something a bit special

lemoncurd

It's a long drum roll, where are the pictures of you on the bike?

mouth

I've seen clips of Cav getting right over the front wheel in his mad sprints. Must look like hat surely?

JRooke

Mouth wrote:

I've seen clips of Cav getting right over the front wheel in his mad sprints. Must look like hat surely?

I dont think its anything to do with his hat

dudge

That is extreme..but if the hat fits..etc...one thing that does strike me is that I am now looking at all the other bikes on here, and my felt F4, and god do they look boring compared to this........

I presume you can see the computer on the stem or is it just for reference when you stop?

freehub

I'm not the best when it comes to bike fit, as people know with me posting threads where I needed help, but I've learnt a lot on bike fit and know enough to get a fairly good position on the bike now, although I am abit inpatient. And all I can say is, people who say well if the position fits... etc... show very little knowledge, less than me about bike fitting, does not matter if "it fits", it's wrong, IT'S WROOOONNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZUFs04C6I

asprilla

On a rare occasion that I was getting public transport the other day (on my way to the pub) I saw someone on High Holborn in London with a fit like this, but not quite as extreme.

It looked like he was in pain, but he seemed to be enjoying it.

canbakay

hahaha dominatrix

Crimmey

Grrrr.Really haven't had time for pics/vid. Long weekend coming up next week, so should have something up then. In the mean time I have added Aeolus decals to the wheels, changed bar tape to black, changed hoods to white ( think red might suit it now), red seat post collar and awaiting a white stem.

Computer is difficult to see, neck doesn't hurt and can see lots infront. I get lots of practice on my commuting bike Incidentaly I took that stem from my commuting bike as I wasn't happy with the positioning on Scott (Only had a 30degree 12cm stem). First ride on it and I knew it was right. Steering a little slow at first but you get used to it and don't you only 'steer' when doing really tight corners anyway and going slower? so not a problem.

I bet freehub has ordered one of those stems?........Infact Im sure he's tried to copy my exact position just to see..... You haven't said if you like my wheels yet!

kev77

Are you a jedi master?