The Receptionist....

dhope

lost_in_thought wrote:

Ah you boys. Fragility is not the first thing that springs to mind when reading about this receptionist.

I read that as 'Frigidity' first. Still, agreed.

DonDaddyD

On this morals thing, it depends doesn't it.

I mean we'd all like to say we wouldn't cheat or not sleep with a Mum or Married Woman. (Where do you find these Married Woman?)

And then one day some posh Wife/Mum bint who looks and speaks (LiT) like Liz Hurley knocks you off you bike. So later that day you knock one off in her...

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

If you're in a relationship as well. Then it's hers and your moral compass that is in question.

After all, its not that you had sex but the circumstances and the people affect by the act of having sex that brings your morals and values into question. Ergo sex, or rather, the nature of the sex is affected by morals.

dhope

DonDaddyD wrote:

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

Really? You're absolutely fine morally if you sleep with someone that's married?
Don't get me wrong, I've done it and not felt too fussed, but that's because I'm a sh*t occasionally and, as a bloke, think with my dick and reconcile things after the event. It's still wrong. Possibly not quite as wrong as being the one in the relationship but you're still a tool for doing it.

DonDaddyD

EKE_38BPM wrote:

I don't think its just that receptionist, it seems to be all of the receptionists at that place!

Indeed. You get the impression all you need to do is walk into the front door with a clean pair of jeans on and by the time you're in the elevator you're playing 'how's your father'.

Still 1). I want to know where he works. 2). I kinda want to work there....

Anyway, what is it with Receptionists. Is there a factory that manufactuers asethically pleasing receptionists?

clarkey cat

There's one married woman I'd love to shag.

But she only lets me on birthdays and Christmas.

rjsterry

Aside from all the mucky goings on, is Hambones still doing Lejog and is his (possibly former) friend/rival coming along too? Well at least there'll be something to talk about on those long lonely miles.

rick_chasey

DonDaddyD wrote:

On this morals thing, it depends doesn't it.

I mean we'd all like to say we wouldn't cheat or not sleep with a Mum or Married Woman. (Where do you find these Married Woman?)

And then one day some posh Wife/Mum bint who looks and speaks (LiT) like Liz Hurley knocks you off you bike. So later that day you knock one off in her...

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

If you're in a relationship as well. Then it's hers and your moral compass that is in question.

After all, its not that you had sex but the circumstances and the people affect by the act of having sex that brings your morals and values into question. Ergo sex, or rather, the nature of the sex is affected by morals.

See Headhunter's summary. It's pretty much on the money.

DonDaddyD

dhope wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

Really? You're absolutely fine morally if you sleep with someone that's married?
Don't get me wrong, I've done it and not felt too fussed, but that's because I'm a sh*t occasionally and, as a bloke, think with my dick and reconcile things after the event. It's still wrong. Possibly not quite as wrong as being the one in the relationship but you're still a tool for doing it.

What if the Husband wants me to. Or doesn't mind his wife playing away because they have that kind of marriage? What if she's a WG and he's cool with that?

Is it still wrong then.

Generally speaking, when single and chatting up a married woman upon finding out I back off. If the woman is still chasing then I dunno... If it were my girlfriend I'm kickign all kinds of ass.

lost_in_thought

On the morality side, my position is that the wife/gf/etc are their problem, not mine. Takes two to tango.

dhope

DonDaddyD wrote:

dhope wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

Really? You're absolutely fine morally if you sleep with someone that's married?
Don't get me wrong, I've done it and not felt too fussed, but that's because I'm a sh*t occasionally and, as a bloke, think with my dick and reconcile things after the event. It's still wrong. Possibly not quite as wrong as being the one in the relationship but you're still a tool for doing it.

What if the Husband wants me to. Or doesn't mind his wife playing away because they have that kind of marriage? What if she's a WG and he's cool with that?

Is it still wrong then.

Obviously not, would have thought it was obvious I was implying some sort of deceit :roll:
If everyone's happy with the cheating then it's not really cheating.

Monkeypump

DonDaddyD wrote:

Generally speaking, when single and chatting up a married woman upon finding out I back off. If the woman is still chasing then I dunno... If it were my girlfriend I'm kickign all kinds of ass.

If a married woman is up for playing away, and you say no, she's just going to get her fun somewhere else.

I guess you can either crack on, say what the hell, safe in the knowledge that she was going to do it anyway.

Or, take the moral high ground and avoid getting involved (read "miss out on a sh*g").

As previously mentioned, nork size or your level of inebriation may well influence this decision!

flimflam_machine

DonDaddyD wrote:

Now if you're single fair play, you don't really owe her kids or hubby anything. And the issue isn't with you or the Husband. It's her moral compass that is in question

After all, its not that you had sex but the circumstances and the people affect by the act of having sex that brings your morals and values into question.

Isn't this a glaring contradiction? You having sex with her (assuming that she's not in an open marriage) increases the risk of her family breaking up and harm and distress to her kids and husband. The fact that they're not your kids and husband doesn't excuse you from being responsible for the consequences of your actions on them.

She may have problems with her marriage which she should sort out but that's no excuse either. Just because she'd made a shitty decision with regard to the feelings and future of her family it doesn't mean that you can back her up (ahem!) on it and not have done something horribly immoral.

wgwarburton

Hi,
Seems to me the whole morality thing wraps around this bit:

...she was having an affair with him on account of abusive behaviour by her husband...

Now, if she's a generally well-adjusted and confident individual who's reaction to bad behavior by her husband is to get back at him by having some fun on her terms, then fair play to her and to those who get to play, too. Might be a bad idea but not immoral.

If, OTOH, she's a victim of abuse and reaching out to her colleagues by using sex as a surrogate for affection and really needs support, and/or help, then "taking advantage" is deeply immoral.

I'm in no position to judge.

Cheers,
W.

Greg T

clarkey cat wrote:

There's one married woman I'd love to shag.

But she only lets me on birthdays and Christmas.

Best Post Ever . . . . .

flimflam_machine

Monkeypump wrote:

If a married woman is up for playing away, and you say no, she's just going to get her fun somewhere else.

If I didn't nick it, somebody else would.

If I didn't sell them drugs, somebody else would.

etc. etc.

I guess you can either crack on, say what the hell, safe in the knowledge that she was going to do it anyway.

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

Or, take the moral high ground and avoid getting involved (read "miss out on a sh*g").

FIFY: Or, take the moral high ground and avoid getting involved (read "not be complicit in somebody else acting like a sh*t").

As previously mentioned, nork size or your level of inebriation may well influence this decision!

As far as I'm aware, neither of those would stand up in court (unless she was particularly perky )

flimflam_machine

WGWarburton wrote:

Hi,
Seems to me the whole morality thing wraps around this bit:

...she was having an affair with him on account of abusive behaviour by her husband...

Now, if she's a generally well-adjusted and confident individual who's reaction to bad behavior by her husband is to get back at him by having some fun on her terms, then fair play to her and to those who get to play, too. Might be a bad idea but not immoral.

If, OTOH, she's a victim of abuse and reaching out to her colleagues by using sex as a surrogate for affection and really needs support, and/or help, then "taking advantage" is deeply immoral.

Reasonable comment, although what constitues "bad behavior by her husband" is open to interpretation and you'd probably only have her word for it. Also getting back at her husband by shagging other people, rather than trying to sort it out with her husband, probably isn't the best indicator of a well-adjusted individual or at least a well-adjusted marriage. Better off leaving it alone altogether I would have thought,

Monkeypump

flimflam_machine wrote:

Monkeypump wrote:

If a married woman is up for playing away, and you say no, she's just going to get her fun somewhere else.

If I didn't nick it, somebody else would.

If I didn't sell them drugs, somebody else would.

etc. etc.

I guess you can either crack on, say what the hell, safe in the knowledge that she was going to do it anyway.

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

Or, take the moral high ground and avoid getting involved (read "miss out on a sh*g").

FIFY: Or, take the moral high ground and avoid getting involved (read "not be complicit in somebody else acting like a sh*t").

As previously mentioned, nork size or your level of inebriation may well influence this decision!

As far as I'm aware, neither of those would stand up in court (unless she was particularly perky )

Mine was a (slightly) tongue in cheek post, but your response is nonsense.

A person making it clear they want extra-marital sex is stating a clear objective. Without questioning their motives, you can simply choose to say yes or no. An inanimate object does not ask to be stolen. Drugs do not ask to be sold.

The likelihood (from this and other examples) is that the person is going to obtain the extra-marital sex from somewhere, be it from you or someone else.

The final sentence, which certainly was tongue-in-cheek, probably contains a little more truth than was intended. Do you honestly think that hot wives preying on drunken blokes get turned down as frequently as fugly wives trying it on with sober guys?

jzed

rjsterry wrote:

Aside from all the mucky goings on, is Hambones still doing Lejog and is his (possibly former) friend/rival coming along too? Well at least there'll be something to talk about on those long lonely miles.

Hopefully not - thinking from a stats point of view

rjsterry

JZed wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Aside from all the mucky goings on, is Hambones still doing Lejog and is his (possibly former) friend/rival coming along too? Well at least there'll be something to talk about on those long lonely miles.

Hopefully not - thinking from a stats point of view

I think you have the Stats bug bad.

jzed

rjsterry wrote:

JZed wrote:

rjsterry wrote:

Aside from all the mucky goings on, is Hambones still doing Lejog and is his (possibly former) friend/rival coming along too? Well at least there'll be something to talk about on those long lonely miles.

Hopefully not - thinking from a stats point of view

I think you have the Stats bug bad.

Talking of stats - Hambone are you going to provide stats?

DonDaddyD

lost_in_thought wrote:

On the morality side, my position is that the wife/gf/etc are their problem, not mine. Takes two to tango.

So Sir Chris Hoy, wants Ms O Grace. One night stand style. You're not too fussed about his wife, it's his (and her) problem.

(For your honesty)

mudcow007

my brother once told me i "had his wicked way" with a married women whilst her husband and kids were sleeping upstairs

he said it with a giant smirk on his face too

DonDaddyD

flimflam_machine wrote:

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

What if she looked like Liz Hurley in a pencil skirt?

In reality the guy saying no is the only one really missing out. Where's your morals then?

There's no way I'm saying no. I'll be the most happiest soul burning in hell for that one.

Cafewanda

O M G :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm more innocent than I realised.

flimflam_machine

Monkeypump wrote:

Mine was a (slightly) tongue in cheek post, but your response is nonsense.

A person making it clear they want extra-marital sex is stating a clear objective. Without questioning their motives, you can simply choose to say yes or no.

So? The fact that it's what she wants doesn't remove the responsibility from you of deciding whether what she wants is wrong. Helping her achieve her "objective" might make her happy but that doesn't mean that on balance it's a good thing to do. Not questioning their motives is probably just a way of avoiding thinking about the consequences of what you're about to do. Anyway, their motives are largely irrelevant compared to the fact that they're in a relationship (presumably not an open one).

Drugs do not ask to be sold.

No, but people may ask you to sell drugs to them.

The likelihood (from this and other examples) is that the person is going to obtain the extra-marital sex from somewhere, be it from you or someone else.

Not if everyone said no. Unlikely, but worth doing your bit towards.

The final sentence, which certainly was tongue-in-cheek, probably contains a little more truth than was intended. Do you honestly think that hot wives preying on drunken blokes get turned down as frequently as fugly wives trying it on with sober guys?

No, I agree that as a statement of fact " nork size or your level of inebriation may well influence this decision!" is undeniably true. It's just not a moral justification.

tx14

DonDaddyD wrote:

flimflam_machine wrote:

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

What if she looked like Liz Hurley in a pencil skirt?

In reality the guy saying no is the only one really missing out. Where's your morals then?

There's no way I'm saying no. I'll be the most happiest soul burning in hell for that one.

I'd be scared for my health. hot+loose=more partners, and that might mean more chance of ugly stuff.

flimflam_machine
you assume men aren't walking sperm dispensers. you need to justify that.

Gazzaputt

Only a crazy man embarks on the married woman full blown affair. Always gets messy.

A one off and walk away is always the way to play if they're married.

rjsterry

DonDaddyD wrote:

flimflam_machine wrote:

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

What if she looked like Liz Hurley?

Then it'll really take the wind out of her sails :twisted: as the song goes "...fit but my gosh don't you know it". Interesting choice of example given Ms. Hurley's recent history.

ETA: DDD, (seing as you've added the pencil skirt thing) you do realise that you've built that particular fantasy up so much that in the unlikely event that the opportunity actually arose, the reality is pretty much guaranteed to disappoint.

flimflam_machine

DonDaddyD wrote:

flimflam_machine wrote:

Or you could not do it and leave her to wonder why someone has turned her down.

What if she looked like Liz Hurley in a pencil skirt?

Then she'd probably be really confused as to why somebody had turned her down.

In reality the guy saying no is the only one really missing out. Where's your morals then?

What happened to your alpha status? I'm sure that Liz would be missing out hugely if you turned her down.

There's no way I'm saying no. I'll be the most happiest soul burning in hell for that one.

Chapeau for honesty, isn't she single now anyway? and what happened to that picture?

DonDaddyD

I'd be scared for my health. hot+loose=more partners, and that might mean more chance of ugly stuff.

Put two 'extra safe' on and cover them in vaseline.