Who on BR has bought a 'cheap' Chinese carbon frame?

nomadicbry

has anyone spotted any chinese carbon CX frames?

nomadicbry

just noticed the pic above with the ahem…Pinarello… i reckon the bike would look so much better if you'd actually trademarked it with Chinarello. Never really got the whole fake label thing…
Why pretend who's it exactly is it to impress and why do you feel the need to?

You've built a beautiful bike the frame will more than likely be great…why ruin it with a brand that has no connection to the bike…
It would def look far cooler either without the branding or with chinarello branded on it
PS Nice paint job though

sloppyschleckonds

Crankbrother wrote:

One just assumes that cheap is the watchword in all walks of life ...

Either substantiate that comment or retract it...

dave35

Evil Laugh wrote:

Can I suggest someone reports the eps as fake on eBay before this poor sod gets ripped off?

I reported both bikes as fake, prob why the dogma got removed. I pointed out the derailleur fitting and cable routing as signs but maybe more could be highlighted. The eps should have a colnago sig on the non driveside of top tube and I'm sure the wc stripes on the logo on the downtube should be symmetrical, ie at the bb end of the panel on both sides.

REPORTED!!!

mouth

Fair to go for the colour scheme but the name? Mind you it'd suck if it said "Chaoswill" down the side.

JD96

Anyone had experience buying carbon frames from- virtualvillage-uk-delta?
I need a 60cm frame as I'm 6 foot 3 and think this is the only supplier.

Thanks

Crankbrother

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

One just assumes that cheap is the watchword in all walks of life ...

Either substantiate that comment or retract it...

Your username has done it for me ... Chapeau ...

P_Tucker

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

One just assumes that cheap is the watchword in all walks of life ...

Either substantiate that comment or retract it...

Just let him be, he's clearly bitter that he paid four figures for a Cannondale frame. I mean seriously - GIS "Cannondale frame" and you'll see pages of horrible horrible things seemingly designed by David Blunkett & Stevie Wonder

Crankbrother

I'm in no way overly excited by my 'dales or think they are the be all and end all ... I wish i'd bought a Canyon or BMC mtb (as an example) ... I have nice (rathervthan wow) bikes ... High end alu rather than cheap(est) carbon ... Butbthey are thevreal thing so the Six13 and the Flash have something special about them (the badboy, I'm not kidding myself on) however mid range tney are ...

My disgust is that the moneybspent on the fake bikes could buy the best low end bike that would be just as light and easily as responsive as the baloon bikes you guys arevfawning over ... For a start, I bet thevpaint on that heap of crap weighs more than my frame ...

It'd be false economy without the fakery, with the fakery it's jyst tacky and deluded ... Yet you all seem to think it's worth showing off ... Imagine if theybwere the real deal ... How crass would it be to show it off? Then multiply it by infinity and you have the level youare working at ...

P_Tucker

Well, I guess the important thing here is that no-one actually cares what you think - I'm just amused at how much it seems to bother you. It doesn't affect you in any way - just let it go!

Crankbrother

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

Chip \'oyler

Crankbrother wrote:

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

petemadoc

Crankbrother wrote:

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

I don't know what's funnier

Bikeradar time is an hour out so P_Tucker was up at 0638 not 0538

or

That Crankbrother was up at 0723 posting a reply

P_Tucker

Crankbrother wrote:

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

I had a dilemma in spring - set my clock to BST, or get angry on the internet at something that doesn't affect me in any way. I chose the former. I bet with hindsight you wish you did too.

P_Tucker

P_Tucker wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

I had a dilemma in spring - set my clock to BST, or get angry on the internet at something that doesn't affect me in any way. I chose the former. I bet with hindsight you wish you did too.

And by "clock", I mean fake Rolex.

sloppyschleckonds

PeteMadoc wrote:

Crankbrother wrote:

If I was bothered I would have been up at 0538 in the morning posting about it ...

I don't know what's funnier

Bikeradar time is an hour out so P_Tucker was up at 0638 not 0538

or

That Crankbrother was up at 0723 posting a reply

yaya

The fakenago sits on £2,000...I can't believe some poor fella is going to drop a couple of grand on a few stickers held by some polyester and paint...sheesh...

The seller history shows he's sold some Cartier stuff...surely that was fake as well?

Crankbrother

Was up to walk the pup ... I'm guessing Pucker was up to walk a balloon on a string before the wind got up ...

ademort

yaya wrote:

The fakenago sits on £2,000...I can't believe some poor fella is going to drop a couple of grand on a few stickers held by some polyester and paint...sheesh...

The seller history shows he's sold some Cartier stuff...surely that was fake as well?

I contacted the seller of the fakenago and he admits that it,s a copy. But says also, that it,s an exact copy of the real thing???? :shock:
Ademort

petemadoc

I think this thread has lost it's way . . .

mroli

Yeah - can we just agree that some people don't like the chinese copies, other people think they're ok and that's that? If we could get back onto people's experiences with the Chinese bikes and that, that would be awesome!

ademort

mroli wrote:

Yeah - can we just agree that some people don't like the chinese copies, other people think they're ok and that's that? If we could get back onto people's experiences with the Chinese bikes and that, that would be awesome!

I,ve been riding my Chinarello for the last two weeks and it rides great IMHO. I have no regrets in the purchase and could not care less what anyone else thinks.Just wonder how many of these Anti Chinerello haters have ever illegally downloaded music or anything else from the internet, Oh of course that,s different isnt it???
Ademort

joeyhalloran

I didnt realise you could also get cervelos:

http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/8060 ... esale.html

ademort

JoeyHalloran wrote:

I didnt realise you could also get cervelos:

http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/8060 ... esale.html

522g for a frame and fork or is that only the frame. I think it,s only the frame, but bloody hell that,s light. If i were 100Kg i think i would be frightened to ride it.
Ademort

sloppyschleckonds

There is an S3 replica on the 'bay if anyone is interested.

rolf_f

ademort wrote:

Just wonder how many of these Anti Chinerello haters have ever illegally downloaded music or anything else from the internet, Oh of course that,s different isnt it???

To be fair, it is different - you're getting the real thing

Percy Vera

I forgot to say, I bought my faulty frame from Carbonzone on eBay - he was great up until I contacted him about the fault. So if you still are going to buy a frame I would avoid Carbonzone, and take a punt with another.

mroli

and your problem was faulty bottle cage inserts... Did you get it sorted? How? and are you riding the bike?

nickwill

ademort wrote:

mroli wrote:

Yeah - can we just agree that some people don't like the chinese copies, other people think they're ok and that's that? If we could get back onto people's experiences with the Chinese bikes and that, that would be awesome!

I,ve been riding my Chinarello for the last two weeks and it rides great IMHO. I have no regrets in the purchase and could not care less what anyone else thinks.Just wonder how many of these Anti Chinerello haters have ever illegally downloaded music or anything else from the internet, Oh of course that,s different isnt it???
Ademort

Then why do you pretend it's a Pinarello? Surely the only reason to put Pinarello stickers on is for other people to think you are riding the genuine article. I have no problem with people buying cheap frames but why do you need to pretend it's something it's not? You know it isn't so why do you need to infringe someone else's legitimate copyright.

ademort

Nickwill wrote:

ademort wrote:

mroli wrote:

Yeah - can we just agree that some people don't like the chinese copies, other people think they're ok and that's that? If we could get back onto people's experiences with the Chinese bikes and that, that would be awesome!

I,ve been riding my Chinarello for the last two weeks and it rides great IMHO. I have no regrets in the purchase and could not care less what anyone else thinks.Just wonder how many of these Anti Chinerello haters have ever illegally downloaded music or anything else from the internet, Oh of course that,s different isnt it???
Ademort

Then why do you pretend it's a Pinarello? Surely the only reason to put Pinarello stickers on is for other people to think you are riding the genuine article. I have no problem with people buying cheap frames but why do you need to pretend it's something it's not? You know it isn't so why do you need to infringe someone else's legitimate copyright.

Hi Firstly i dont pretend it,s a Pinarello. When i,m out riding if i talk to fellow cyclists i tell them exactly what it is and where i bought it and how much it costs. As far as the general public is concerned they wont know what a Pinarello is anyway. If this frame continues to handle the way that is has handled in the past two weeks then next year i will buy another one
Ademort