Crud Roadracer Mk2 Mud Guards.

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  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Marlin151 wrote:
    I came across another potential problem a couple of weeks ago doing a steep 25% section about 2/3rds in to the Tour of the Peak. I was putting in a couple of zig zags to ease my way up the steepest section when the tip of the front guard caught the wrong side of my shoe as I was about to straighten and...bang...I was down. The tip broke off at the small screw and was left lying on the tarmac. My R3 suffers from toe overlap anyway, so I'm not sure it was entirely the fault of the crudgruard, but I won't be using the front one again on the really hilly sportives just in case.

    Anyone else had a similar problem? (I know, I know, I should just power straight up next time....)
    Ha, I had the 'toeclip overlap' problem too, only it was slight so the guard just deflected out of the way. I didn't fall off or break the guard but it was pretty disconcerting. It wasn't not the Crud's fault - the bike geometry made it unavoidable.

    You should be able to avoid the problem by taking the rear extension off the front guard. You sacrifice a bit of protection but at least you wont come a cropper again.
  • juankerr
    juankerr Posts: 1,099
    riggsy81 wrote:
    so you bought them from ebay, did the seller say they were mk2? if they did then they have sent you the original and not mk2 so contact them

    Yeah, they said they were mk2. I've contacted them now and they've asked me to send them back. Seems like a genuine mistake. Presuming I get my money back.
  • riggsy81
    riggsy81 Posts: 281
    fingers crossed fot you, at least its a mistake and not a scam or anything
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  • munzy
    munzy Posts: 111
    CLX1 wrote:
    Munzy wrote:
    Had for a few rides now and love the extended back guard - I reckon the sales of front mechs will dwindle now they are protected! And my feet get alot less covered in crud at the back :)


    Do you seriously believe that riding in wet weather without mudguards will wear out you front mech.If so how long do you think it would take?

    As the front mech is getting ALOT less salty water and grit in it I reckon my hypothesis is correct. Did you think that I meant water erosion? Come on....
  • Hopefully you'll be OK as they should give you your money back!
    Pain hurts much less if its topped off with beating your mates to top of a climb.
  • coyot3
    coyot3 Posts: 12
    Has any one fitted these to a Ribble Sportive, was it easy or not? Or impossible and not worth trying.
  • juankerr
    juankerr Posts: 1,099
    Hopefully you'll be OK as they should give you your money back!

    The seller has apologised for the mistake, paid the the return postage and sent me out a MK2 once I had returned the original so all sorted with no fuss, now I just need to fix the thing. :)
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    A tip - if you find that you are getting a build of crap under your Roadracers on a mucky day out on the bike, ride through a few puddles and it'll soon get washed out.

    (This should be obvious! :wink:) Only do this on shallow puddles that you can see the bottom of - not hub-deep buggers with bike-size potholes lurking in the depths!
  • I currently own a pair of MK1's but wanted to upgrade the rear tail & rear nose to the MKII version for more protection from mud n' such!, I was just wondering if my MK1's would be compatible with the MKII's tail & nose.Any help would be much appreciated!!!
  • GavH
    GavH Posts: 933
    Just added a set of Mk2s to my new winter build. Pleased to say that the front guards fit despite only 4mm clearance, although I'm finding the brushes rub quite a bit.

    The main problem though is that I can't fit the part of the rear guard that covers the drive train without the widest part of the 'flare' rubbing against the tyre (the bit parallel to the tyre wall and rim). Anyone had a similar issue and if so, how did you fix it? Currently just using one of the extra short lengths but obviously the back of the seat tube, front mech, chainstays etc are getting mucky.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Just fitted a set of Mk2s to my Ribble Gran Fondo. As I think has already been said, it does take an evening to do it properly but it all seems ok. Fit is very close but plenty of tweaking has the brushes not interfering with the free spinning of the wheels - though how long that remains so is anyones guess!

    @ GavH. Instructions say to cut the drive train cover down if it can't fit inbetween the chain stays without fouling the tyre. Of course, if the problem is due to lack of clearance between the seat tube and tyre, then you might be scuppered.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • batch78
    batch78 Posts: 1,320
    Have just fitted these to a Bianchi Pro Race Team 52cm, took some cutting and most of an afternoon but they don't rub. If it fits this it will fit anything, believe me!

    One trick I learnt is when it rubs, reduce the tension in the ziptie, rather than increasing it, which would seem the intuitive thing to do. On the rear its one click on the tie difference between rubbing or not, and two clicks before the wheel won't rotate, thats tight.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    Just popped a pair of MkIIs on my old Quest carbon stayed aluminium frame.
    I was amazed how easily they went on even though I only scanned the instructions (which weren't super clear) and I was all done in less then 30mins.Maybe I was lucky but without any adjustments they don't rub anywhere and were totally rattle free on the firts ride though unfortunately it didn't rain! I can see it's going to be like carry a brolly, after 6 wet rides out of 7 it's going to be a dry winter!
  • GavH
    GavH Posts: 933
    I'm still having difficulty getting the large part of the rear guard that covers the drivetrain to fit correctly.

    I have bags of clearnace and when just fastening it by the thumb screw, it fits fine, although will be prone to significant side to side movement (hence the need for the zip ties?). The instant I apply any tension whatsoever to either of the zip ties though, the large flared part rubs against the tyre. I've tried all sorts to no avail. At present, the best I can manage is fastening it only by the thumb screw and using some tape to try and limit the lateral movement. I don't think it'll stand up to any time on the road however.

    Has anyone else encountered a similar problem and how did you overcome it?
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    GavH wrote:
    I'm still having difficulty getting the large part of the rear guard that covers the drivetrain to fit correctly.

    I have bags of clearnace and when just fastening it by the thumb screw, it fits fine, although will be prone to significant side to side movement (hence the need for the zip ties?). The instant I apply any tension whatsoever to either of the zip ties though, the large flared part rubs against the tyre. I've tried all sorts to no avail. At present, the best I can manage is fastening it only by the thumb screw and using some tape to try and limit the lateral movement. I don't think it'll stand up to any time on the road however.

    Has anyone else encountered a similar problem and how did you overcome it?

    Did you use those stickies where the zip ties are? Ideally, the guard wants to be (almost) resting against the downtube where the zip tie is - if it is, then tightening the zip tie will just hold the guard in place rather than pulling it away from its natural rest position. I only used one zip tie on the downtube and the guard is more or less undistorted by the zip tie. If the gap between guard and frame is too bit, I think I'd look to sticking something onto the guard to sort it. Might help.....
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Bah! They won't fit my Wilier. The carbon seat stay doesn't allow enough (any!) clearance. I should have checked this before I bought.

    Oh well, I only bought them to keep the guy behind me dry!
    Summer - Colnago C40
    Race - Wilier Alpe D'Huez
    Winter/Commuter - Specialized Tricross
  • Hmmm, most of the reviews are good, but I'm not overly impressed. I have 25mm winter tyres on a Spesh Secteur, and I managed to get them to not rub after a what seemed like an age of tweaking and twisting. I knew when fitting the brushes that they wouldn't last, I've now lost both rear ones - surely I can't be the only one? I find them noisy too, not excessively or annoyingly, just more than I expected.

    And after an hour in, they have always moved a bit to start rubbing, and have to be tweaked at the road side, and then again an hour or so after that. I went out Saturday and on return it was fouling the rear wheel so as not to move at all.

    I was however, very clean and dry on the back and the bum, which was a nice feeling this time of the year, I think I perhaps need to persevere with them a little longer.

    I tried to order some replacement brushes for the price of a stamp as I saw advertised, and you can't, you can get them pretty cheaply off ebay though, I'll use super glue when I fit the new ones.
  • doyler78
    doyler78 Posts: 1,951
    Today while getting ready for my commute into work I noticed that my front fork right hand stay had broken through it's loop :cry:
  • I'm happy with my Mk1s. Even happier with crud themselves. For reasons best known only to me ( and I can't remember...poor old sod I am :D ) I took them off my winter bike. When I came to refit them, I could not find the O rings anywhere...emptied the shed to a stream of invective. Checked Crud's website. They have everything you could possibly need all for the price of return postage. Now that is what customer service always used to be.

    PS who goes shopping on a litespeed? Please tell me you were taking the pee?
  • doyler78 wrote:
    Today while getting ready for my commute into work I noticed that my front fork right hand stay had broken through it's loop :cry:

    see my post all is fine doyler...blart ye not :lol:
  • doyler78
    doyler78 Posts: 1,951
    brumbear wrote:
    doyler78 wrote:
    Today while getting ready for my commute into work I noticed that my front fork right hand stay had broken through it's loop :cry:

    see my post all is fine doyler...blart ye not :lol:

    It's the durability of the product that I've got concerns over now :wink:
  • Valy
    Valy Posts: 1,321
    Does everyone not get sprayed at the front? I found that I still got wet feet as the drops would go around the mudguard.

    I'm thinking a bit of a plastic bottle cut out should solve it. (fingers crossed)
  • 45rpm
    45rpm Posts: 43
    These guards are tiptop, the quick release stays worked just as they're supposed too when I bust a rear spoke.
    I've not got round to fitting the front guard yet.
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Valy wrote:
    Does everyone not get sprayed at the front? I found that I still got wet feet as the drops would go around the mudguard.

    I'm thinking a bit of a plastic bottle cut out should solve it. (fingers crossed)
    I went out on a very damp day and was surprised by how little water got past the front guard. (When I say damp - there was a lot of standing water and mud on the roads, but it wasn't actually raining.)

    I rode through quite a few puddles to clean out some of the mud that was building up but my overshoes still looked pretty clean when I got home after nearly 6 hours of riding.
  • Just refitted mine onto my new winter bike. I've got 24mm Conti Grand Prix and managed to fit them with no problem regarding clearance or rubbing. I will be riding in the morning so I'll know for sure then.

    All in all, one of my better purchases this winter, very happy with them.
  • Valy
    Valy Posts: 1,321
    My rear bit of the rear mudguard snapped off - brushed the bike against some bushes as I was lifting it over the fence as the gate would not open cos of the snow. DAYM.
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Valy wrote:
    My rear bit of the rear mudguard snapped off - brushed the bike against some bushes as I was lifting it over the fence as the gate would not open cos of the snow. DAYM.
    Roadracer rear spares are available - just send the return postage in large first class stamps. Details here.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    I have a pair of the Mk 1 for sale if anyone's interested, still in packet and been in garage of over a year, pm me if you are
  • Valy
    Valy Posts: 1,321
    ColinJ wrote:
    Valy wrote:
    My rear bit of the rear mudguard snapped off - brushed the bike against some bushes as I was lifting it over the fence as the gate would not open cos of the snow. DAYM.
    Roadracer rear spares are available - just send the return postage in large first class stamps. Details here.

    So, wait - is it free? :O

    I'm not sure if I will do it thought as I would have to be without a rear mudguard. Saying that though, I could always put the crud racer mtb one back on - I've had it at the back before the crudracers for a few weeks! :D
  • sfichele
    sfichele Posts: 605
    These things work well enough as a mud guard, but they do my DAMN nut. They are constantly rubbing against the wheel no matter how much I adjust them - prefer my SKS race blades