Giro Stage 16 *spoiler*

iainf72
iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited May 2010 in Pro race
More madness from lovely Italy.

PdC TT.

It's a bit daft, but still great fun.

Evans, Sastre and Basso to move up a bit more. But maybe a wierd winner. Who knows.
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    They start in 30 minutes time to PTP pickers should aim to get their selection in soon.

    Start order on this Spanish website:
    http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/no ... p?id=26652
  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    Probably no big time gaps though but fun for everyone. Except the riders. Nibali to win.
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Got Sastre at 35/1 on betfair last night. Crazy odds.

    ... although Basso will probably win.
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  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Looking at the 2008 results there were no huge surprises. Maybe Garzelli will be up with the leaders after his recent poor results. Perhaps Pinotti can get into the top 5. 6 people got eliminated on this stage in 2008 so the backmarkers will have to keep an eye on the clock. That was the day before the rest day whereas this is the day after though so hopefully people should be fresher on this occasion.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,711
    3 Groups with a large "logistical" gap in between. 3" between the top riders.
    SERIE 3 (CET timing)
    15:10 Vasil Kiryienka (Caisse d'Epargne)
    15:11 Daniel Martin (Garmin-Transitions)
    15:12 Marcel Wyss (Cervélo)
    15:13 Massimo Codol (Acqua e Sapone)
    15:14 Andrei Amador (Caisse d'Epargne)
    15:15 Michael Barry (Sky)
    15:16 Josep Jufre (Astana)
    15:17 Jerome Pineau (Quick Step)
    15:18 Filippo Pozzato (Katusha)
    15:19 Joan Horrach (Katusha)
    15:20 Charles Wegelius (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
    15:21 Giampaolo Caruso (Katusha)
    15:22 Johann Tschopp (Bouygues)
    15:23 Branislau Samoilau (Quick Step)
    15:24 Yuri Trofimov (Bouygues)
    15:25 Daniel Moreno (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
    15:26 Thomas Voeckler (Bouygues)
    15:27 Rigoberto Urán (Caisse d'Epargne)
    15:28 Vladimir Miholjevic (Liquigas)
    15.29 José Serpa (Androni)
    15:30 Laurent Didier (Saxo Bank)
    15:31 Steven Kruijswijk (Rabobank)
    15:32 Chris Sorensen (Saxo Bank)
    15:33 Evgeni Petrov (Katusha)
    15:34 Jan Bakelants (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
    15:35 Pieter Weening (Rabobank)
    15:36 Hubert Dupont (AG2R)
    15:37 Iban Mayoz (Footon)
    15:38 Stefano Garzelli (Acqua e Sapone)
    15:39 Bradley Wiggins (Sky)
    15:40 Francis De Greef (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
    15:41 Xavier Tondo (Cervélo)
    15:42 Valerio Agnoli (Liquigas)
    15:43 Dario Cioni (Sky)
    15:44 John Gadret (AG2R)
    15:45 Mauricio Ardila (Rabobank)
    15:46 Alexander Efimkin (AG2R)
    15:49 Dario Cataldo (Quick Step)
    15:52 Bauke Mollema (Rabobank)
    15:55 Vladimir Karpets (Katusha)
    15:58 Marco Pinotti (Team HTC-Columbia)
    16:01 Damiano Cunego (Lampre)
    16:04 Robert Kiserlovski (Liquigas)
    16:07 Linus Gerdemann (Milram)
    16:10 Michele Scarponi (Acqua e Sapone)
    16:13 Vincenzo Nibali (Liquigas)
    16:16 Alexandre Vinokourov (Astana)
    16:19 Cadel Evans (Omega Pharma-Lotto)
    16:22 Carlos Sastre (Cervélo)
    16:25 Ivan Basso (Liquigas)
    16:28 Richie Porte (Saxo Bank)
    16:31 David Arroyo (Caisse d'Epargne)
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Kléber wrote:
    They start in 30 minutes time to PTP pickers should aim to get their selection in soon.

    Start order on this Spanish website:
    http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/no ... p?id=26652

    Hurry up those considering Chris Sutton or Graeme Brown!

    Agreed though :wink:
  • skavanagh.bikeradar
    skavanagh.bikeradar Posts: 1,097
    Anyone know what time it is available on eurosport player on t'internet?
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Anyone know what the local forecast is? From what i can see there will be the risk of a heavy shower or thunderstorm later on and that could mix things up if it happens. Im guessing that the chance is probably about 10% of getting a real downpour (90% of it not happening) but does anyone know if the locals are saying different?
  • Av it
    Av it Posts: 105
    whats the length of this stage? can basso and Evans really make up the time difference?
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Cumulonimbus wrote:
    Anyone know what the local forecast is? From what i can see there will be the risk of a heavy shower or thunderstorm later on and that could mix things up if it happens. Im guessing that the chance is probably about 10% of getting a real downpour (90% of it not happening) but does anyone know if the locals are saying different?
    Sunny, maybe a local thunderstorm but in the evening, not during the day. Apparently...
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,867
    Av it wrote:
    whats the length of this stage? can basso and Evans really make up the time difference?

    12.5k but its a bit steep....

    half of it is the strada bianchi like surface

    I'm hoping for rain...
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,867
    Kléber wrote:
    Cumulonimbus wrote:
    Anyone know what the local forecast is? From what i can see there will be the risk of a heavy shower or thunderstorm later on and that could mix things up if it happens. Im guessing that the chance is probably about 10% of getting a real downpour (90% of it not happening) but does anyone know if the locals are saying different?
    Sunny, maybe a local thunderstorm but in the evening, not during the day. Apparently...

    damm was hoping for evans pulling something back whle basso struggled to put the power down
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Av it wrote:
    whats the length of this stage? can basso and Evans really make up the time difference?

    They can make up SOME time. But not 3-4 minutes.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    The spiritually-uplifting top 10 from 2008:

    1 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas 40.26 (19.142 km/h)
    2 Emanuele Sella (Ita) CSF Group Navigare 0.06
    3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) Serramenti PVC Diquigiovanni-Androni Giocattoli 0.17
    4 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Astana 0.22
    5 Riccardo Riccò (Ita) Saunier Duval - Scott 0.30
    6 José Rujano Guillen (Ven) Caisse d'Epargne 0.49
    7 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre 1.04
    8 Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) CSF Group Navigare 1.43
    9 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) LPR Brakes 1.45
    10 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 1.49

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/200 ... s/giro0816

    Voigt was 11th :shock:
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • Av it
    Av it Posts: 105
    so both Basso and Evans need to get minutes back here and in the last mountain stage? an all or nothing strategy for both then.

    This is so much better than recent editions of the tour
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Av it wrote:
    so both Basso and Evans need to get minutes back here and in the last mountain stage? an all or nothing strategy for both then.

    This is so much better than recent editions of the tour

    Friday and Saturday are both incredibly difficult days where huge gaps could happen.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,867
    Pokerface wrote:
    Av it wrote:
    whats the length of this stage? can basso and Evans really make up the time difference?

    They can make up SOME time. But not 3-4 minutes.

    arroyo should hang on
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    DaveyL wrote:
    The spiritually-uplifting top 10 from 2008:

    1 Franco Pellizotti (Ita) Liquigas DOPER 40.26 (19.142 km/h)
    2 Emanuele Sella (Ita) CSF Group Navigare DOPER 0.06
    3 Gilberto Simoni (Ita) 0.17
    4 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Astana 0.22
    5 Riccardo Riccò (Ita) Saunier Duval - Scott DOPER 0.30
    6 José Rujano Guillen (Ven) Caisse d'Epargne 0.49
    7 Marzio Bruseghin (Ita) Lampre SUSPISCIOUS 1.04
    8 Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) CSF Group Navigare SUSPISCIOUS 1.43
    9 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) LPR Brakes DOPER 1.45
    10 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank SUSPISCIOUS 1.49

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/200 ... s/giro0816

    Voigt was 11th :shock:
    Contador is the Greatest
  • guinea
    guinea Posts: 1,177
    I think you missed at least one.
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    Damien Monier of Cofidis currently leading on 44:15

    appx 17.5 kph average speed
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    guinea wrote:
    I think you missed at least one.

    At least two, and that's probably being generous to the third...
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/41991871@N ... otostream/
  • eh
    eh Posts: 4,854
    Can we keep this to todays thread please. I'm not interested in the shock :roll: revelation that doping took place in the past.

    Just a thought but if Basso can handle his bike, his style should be more suited to gravel surfaces than Cadels, but the evidence so far suggests otherwise, so today should be interesting.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/

    :roll:

    Anyyyyyway, come on TT.

    Wonder how Porte will go...
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    iainf72 wrote:
    http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/

    :roll:

    It would have been very interesting to see Contador there. 3mins sounds a little much but I would definitely have him up there FTW
    Contador is the Greatest
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,867
    iainf72 wrote:
    http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/

    :roll:

    Anyyyyyway, come on TT.

    Wonder how Porte will go...

    he will make the effort for the kiddie jersey...

    can't see him in the top 3 by the end of the day thou

    pinotti should be interesting... 6 mins down the last time they came here
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Pinotti is riding much better this year, not just a TT rider but competitive on the climbs, especially shorter/intense climbs. Hopefully top-10 for the engineer today.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,867
    Kléber wrote:
    Pinotti is riding much better this year, not just a TT rider but competitive on the climbs, especially shorter/intense climbs. Hopefully top-10 for the engineer today.

    did alright yesterday


    john gadret could surprise a few as well today
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    There is a small amount of descending in today's stage:

    http://twitpic.com/1qvrvs
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Slowest so far is 52.14 by Capelli of Footon according to cyclingnews. Think he could be in trouble with a long 41 eliminating him. Next ones are just under 51 minutes - think they may be biting their finger nails later on.
  • FJS
    FJS Posts: 4,820
    Blimey, Gibo doesn't beat Damien Monier's best time :o

    Simoni almost 4 minutes slower than in 2008.....

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