Contemplating a new car...
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missmarple wrote:Chaz, did you not read the post afterwards, I got a PPL INSTEAD of going to Private School, Private School costing thousands per term, a PPL costing £6000. Do the math, I don't think that is being spoilt; plenty of other people who have PPLs aged 17 too - welcome to the aviation world.
End of rant for evar and evar and evar.
That post just reeks of douchebaggery. Congratulations, you are a ponce.
Wait for me to add the smilies that you add to your passive aggressive BS posts...
That's better.0 -
bigchazrocks wrote:
Hahahaaa...missmarple wrote:Chaz, did you not read the post afterwards, I got a PPL INSTEAD of going to Private School, Private School costing thousands per term, a PPL costing £6000. Do the math, I don't think that is being spoilt; plenty of other people who have PPLs aged 17 too - welcome to the aviation world. End of rant for evar and evar and evar.
So that makes you grounded....? But yet your parents own / have owned Alfa's, Jags and Mercs (all of which you drive, on your - I assume driving licence which your 'rent's paid for). And you have a £6,000 PPL...
By comprehensive, I assume you mean public school?
I grew up in a small-ish village, in the countryside. I worked since I was about 12 at farms. My Mum raised me and my bro up God only knows how, when my parents divorced (living in a small terrest HOUSE, not flat). I've always been to state schools, and never driven my Mum's (15 year old) volvo, which was a hand-me-down from her Dad.
By no means am I doing the my-life-was-harder-than-your-life competition, but I have had, what I thought was a normal up-bringing. some of my friends had slightly wealthier parents, some had slightly harder-up parents, but we were all around the same.
I've not been spoilt with these fancy cars and flying stuffs. And certainly not uni - my family / I simply couldn't afford it. Oh, and before you go hunting for my thread which has pictures of my car and bikes in - I bought them myself
I've been in the Army 5 years, and earned my driving licences, and money to pay for cars, bikes, motorbikes, watches, travel etc etc.
No offence, but I think it's funny how you think you HAVEN'T been spoilt...
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!0 -
meesterbond wrote:bigchazrocks wrote:
Hahahaaa...missmarple wrote:Chaz, did you not read the post afterwards, I got a PPL INSTEAD of going to Private School, Private School costing thousands per term, a PPL costing £6000. Do the math, I don't think that is being spoilt; plenty of other people who have PPLs aged 17 too - welcome to the aviation world. End of rant for evar and evar and evar.
So that makes you grounded....? But yet your parents own / have owned Alfa's, Jags and Mercs (all of which you drive, on your - I assume driving licence which your 'rent's paid for). And you have a £6,000 PPL...
By comprehensive, I assume you mean public school?
I grew up in a small-ish village, in the countryside. I worked since I was about 12 at farms. My Mum raised me and my bro up God only knows how, when my parents divorced (living in a small terrest HOUSE, not flat). I've always been to state schools, and never driven my Mum's (15 year old) volvo, which was a hand-me-down from her Dad.
By no means am I doing the my-life-was-harder-than-your-life competition, but I have had, what I thought was a normal up-bringing. some of my friends had slightly wealthier parents, some had slightly harder-up parents, but we were all around the same.
I've not been spoilt with these fancy cars and flying stuffs. And certainly not uni - my family / I simply couldn't afford it. Oh, and before you go hunting for my thread which has pictures of my car and bikes in - I bought them myself I've been in the Army 5 years, and earned my driving licences, and money to pay for cars, bikes, motorbikes, watches, travel etc etc.
No offence, but I think it's funny how you think you HAVEN'T been spoilt...
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
You were lucky. I used to live in a hole in a road, covered by a tarpaulin.0 -
Well, when I was t'lad, I woke up everyday at 3.30 am, walked 40 miles t'pit, walked back after a 12 hr shift, had nothing to eat, then went to bed at 5am, to start again the next morning....stuartfraser wrote:meesterbond wrote:Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
You were lucky. I used to live in a hole in a road, covered by a tarpaulin. Boo-yah mofo
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See, looks as if you've backfired here. You're missing the point mate and nor did you answer my question re private schools. I chose to get a flying licence instead of go to a private school, because I had the choice. Call me what you will, and call all the other teenagers spoilt too. Your post 'reeks' of old-manism, move on lav. 0
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hyperman wrote:laughing my head off at this thread!! i'm not spoilt but mummy and daddy have just given me £6000 for flying lessons....classic....
so you've driven a jag so that makes you an expert, sorry but through my own experiences the bmw's are a far better drivers car than the jaguars...erm..fords, sorry i meant tata's.......
Rofl mate you're completely missing the whole point behind this, mock all you will - but yeah, I can't be arsed to attempt to even justify myself, whats the point? You'll just twist it through jealousy? Next you'll be saying you lived in a hole your entire childhood and was only let out once a day.....
And ROFL in uppercase, you're assuming I said I was an expert - if you can highlight that I'd be grateful because I can't. I've had firsthand experience in driving both the Jag and the Merc for the reasons explained above - if you can't get over that, and find that is "spoilt" - well tough luck. :P
Answer me this all, those of you who went to Uni - did your parents ever help you out money-wise? I'll be surprised if they didn't.0 -
bigchazrocks wrote:Fiat Panda 4x4
Or even a modern one....
Good call!
Others (apart from the A3, which was mentioned earlier in the thread) are a bit on the 'large' side. Same really goes for the Forester, which again was mentioned earlier in the thread.
Oh, and I apologise for bringing this thread back on topic, you can carry on now...0 -
Oh PS Chaz, why would I go 'hunting' for your thread? You've clearly got something to say so I'll appreciate that. At the end of the day, plenty of kids go to Private School - call them spoilt if you will but I don't think £6K towards my career is called being spoilt. Unless you've got a chip on your shoulder!
Then again, I've had a hard life, I've been back and forth to GOSH for 3 years, 6 operations etc - I could go on, but I don't.
I'm going to be churlish and say I'm not going to reply to this thread now. Because frankly, I shouldn't be giving a rat's arse what some stranger thinks and nor should you.0 -
missmarple wrote:Answer me this all, those of you who went to Uni - did your parents ever help you out money-wise? I'll be surprised if they didn't.
Best you be surprised then.0 -
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I was just thinking that the forums have been a bit dull lately and then I read this.
Anyway, back on topic. I haven't memorised all the range details for the Jag X-Type, but I seem to recall that the 4wd was only available on the 3.0 and 2.5 petrols. I did get to drive one for a couple of weeks when working in Jersey (8ish years ago) - a 3.0 sport saloon. My impression was of a comfortable wafter. It didn't feel as fast as the MkII Golf GTi 16v I was otherwise driving at the time, despite it being quite a bit quicker. It was far more comfortable though.0 -
Well, this thread went OT pretty quickly. I generally stay away from Car buying advice. My own car history is pretty poor and I'm currently driving a rather uninteresting Diesel MG because the company I'm contracting for gave it to me.
However, as this thread seems to be where all the cool kids are hanging out, may I suggest:
Audi R8
Ok, so maybe not the R8, but If I was looking for a 4wd road car Audi and Subaru have got to be the 2 best choices surely. They've both been at it for yeeeears so they must be doing something right.
I might also look at a 4wd Lancer (non-evo version, I think it's the Ralliart?) for no other reason than I quite like the look of it.0 -
El Capitano wrote:bigchazrocks wrote:Fiat Panda 4x4
Or even a modern one....
Good call!
Others (apart from the A3, which was mentioned earlier in the thread) are a bit on the 'large' side. Same really goes for the Forester, which again was mentioned earlier in the thread.
Oh, and I apologise for bringing this thread back on topic, you can carry on now...
El Cap, me and the missus used to have the Panda in 4x4, great little car and surprisingly roomy inside, anyway, great value for money (purchased brand new) and never had any problems packing for trips away, had a bike rack on the back (bugger to get hold of one, but got one from halfords in the end)
Seriously worth a thought at least.0 -
The Big Cheese wrote:El Capitano wrote:bigchazrocks wrote:Fiat Panda 4x4
Or even a modern one....
Good call!
Others (apart from the A3, which was mentioned earlier in the thread) are a bit on the 'large' side. Same really goes for the Forester, which again was mentioned earlier in the thread.
Oh, and I apologise for bringing this thread back on topic, you can carry on now...
El Cap, me and the missus used to have the Panda in 4x4, great little car and surprisingly roomy inside, anyway, great value for money (purchased brand new) and never had any problems packing for trips away, had a bike rack on the back (bugger to get hold of one, but got one from halfords in the end)
Seriously worth a thought at least.
Cheese, whats the boot capacity like? Much larger than a Clio or the like?0 -
missmarple wrote:See, looks as if you've backfired here. You're missing the point mate and nor did you answer my question re private schools. I chose to get a flying licence instead of go to a private school, because I had the choice. Call me what you will, and call all the other teenagers spoilt too. Your post 'reeks' of old-manism, move on lav.
No worries Lav. With your frightfully loose grasp of the English language perhaps you should trade that license in and head back to school.
I'm 23 by the way. Young enough to not be an old man, old enough to know that there are far better things to spend £6000 on.
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missmarple wrote:The Big Cheese wrote:El Capitano wrote:bigchazrocks wrote:Fiat Panda 4x4
Or even a modern one....
Good call!
Others (apart from the A3, which was mentioned earlier in the thread) are a bit on the 'large' side. Same really goes for the Forester, which again was mentioned earlier in the thread.
Oh, and I apologise for bringing this thread back on topic, you can carry on now...
El Cap, me and the missus used to have the Panda in 4x4, great little car and surprisingly roomy inside, anyway, great value for money (purchased brand new) and never had any problems packing for trips away, had a bike rack on the back (bugger to get hold of one, but got one from halfords in the end)
Seriously worth a thought at least.
Cheese, whats the boot capacity like? Much larger than a Clio or the like?
Not 'massive' obviously being a small car, but suprisingly, you can get a fair bit in there, not golf clubs nor anything long or odd shaped. We got all of our stuff for a 2 week holiday in there, however, there were only 2 of us with no kids etc which could pose a problem for bigger families0 -
stuartfraser wrote:missmarple wrote:See, looks as if you've backfired here. You're missing the point mate and nor did you answer my question re private schools. I chose to get a flying licence instead of go to a private school, because I had the choice. Call me what you will, and call all the other teenagers spoilt too. Your post 'reeks' of old-manism, move on lav.
No worries Lav. With your frightfully loose grasp of the English language perhaps you should trade that license in and head back to school.
I'm 23 by the way. Young enough to not be an old man, old enough to know that there are far better things to spend £6000 on.
Jogeth oneth
Rofl at you, my english is bad? Where are the mistakes? :?0 -
So at the age of say 10, your parents asked you - "do you want to go to posh school our little cherub or would you like to learn to fly?"
I very much doubt it - maybe your comp is good enough to not need private school? Often happens.
I suggest that any kid that gets sent to private school (I went for 3 years) IS rather spoilt but at least it's a good education. Forfeiting posh school for flying lessons is a bit like saying you gave up food and learned to fly instead and that kids that eat food are spoilt.
When I was 18, I was constantly on the beer, surfing every waking minute and going flat out to pull as many girls as possible - that's what 18 year olds do. Meanwhile you think you're the font of all car knowledge based on your PARENTS cars (my dad had 3 Porsches, 3 ur Quattros, a 400bhp V8 pick up, a 300bhp Mitsi Shogun, a 180bhp mk1 GTi after getting the 7th mk1 Gti in the UK, a 308 GT4 and all sorts of other cars - I knew what they did but I never pretended I drove them) and no experience of a range of vehicles. Have you driven a supercar? A "proper" sports car? A Van? A supercar baiting rally rep? Stacks of humdrum cars? Cars that should be poor but are actually really good? Any idea (in practise) what under and oversteer are? Any idea what to do when a car runs out of grip? Ever done an observed run with a cop instructor? Ever used cadence braking? Sustained gearchanges? Experienced torque steer, etc, etc, etc? I would be surprised if you can answer "yes" to any of those.
When I was 18, I was completely aware that I was very inexperienced and so drove very carefully. I had no illusions of knowing more than basic car control. It took until 25 to get anywhere near competent and that was with training.
Now do stop MissMarple - you might upset Mum and Dad and get that trust fund clipped.0 -
What this thread needs is a response from missmarples Mum/Dad
Anyway, Matt, as our resident car freak, opinions on the Lancer Ralliart? May be in the market for a new motor in the not too distant future.0 -
Like I said mate, I couldn't give any amount of arse what your opinion is - the sheer fact that you're arguing with me, a teenager is the best part of it. If you'd have any decency or common-sense you would've stopped long ago but alas you took the bait! And I'm not to blame. Also, a recurring theme with you thinking I think I am the "font of all car knowledge", if I ever suggested I was an expert, please remind me where and I'll edit where necessary.
Oh PS re the 'pretending', why would I lie about driving part way of 600 miles to the South of France with a booth full of duvets, cutlery and other household amenities? You'd have to be pretty dull to make something like that up.
So, jog on pal.0 -
Cat With No Tail wrote:What this thread needs is a response from missmarples Mum/Dad
Anyway, Matt, as our resident car freak, opinions on the Lancer Ralliart? May be in the market for a new motor in the not too distant future.
Don't you start that again CWNT. I may be immature, but at least I tell the truth - however blunt it is! 0 -
CWNT - which model/mark?
I have only tested the Evo IX FQ360 and it was so utterly brilliant that I nearly bought it there an then. Astonishingly quick, not too loud for an evo (looks wise), utterly brilliant grip levels, totally driver focussed interior, back seats and a proper boot.
Bad points are sicko fuel consumption, very close service intervals (every 4500 miles!!), a slightly naff soundtrack and it's pretty firm for people in the back.
I'd have one like a shot if I was single and childless though!0 -
missmarple wrote:Cat With No Tail wrote:What this thread needs is a response from missmarples Mum/Dad
Anyway, Matt, as our resident car freak, opinions on the Lancer Ralliart? May be in the market for a new motor in the not too distant future.
Don't you start that again CWNT. I may be immature, but at least I tell the truth - however blunt it is!
Never implied you didnt fella.0 -
missmarple wrote:Like I said mate, I couldn't give any amount of ars* what your opinion is - the sheer fact that you're arguing with me, a teenager is the best part of it. If you'd have any decency or common-sense you would've stopped long ago but alas you took the bait! And I'm not to blame. Also, a recurring theme with you thinking I think I am the "font of all car knowledge", if I ever suggested I was an expert, please remind me where and I'll edit where necessary.
Oh PS re the 'pretending', why would I lie about driving part way of 600 miles to the South of France with a booth full of duvets, cutlery and other household amenities? You'd have to be pretty dull to make something like that up.
So, jog on pal.
So why do you reply at great length, to every post I (and other similar BR members) post then?! Took the bait? What bait? The "know it all teen" bait?
So don't jog on, I suggest sprinting at full speed.0 -
Surf-Matt wrote:CWNT - which model/mark?
I have only tested the Evo IX FQ360 and it was so utterly brilliant that I nearly bought it there an then. Astonishingly quick, not too loud for an evo (looks wise), utterly brilliant grip levels, totally driver focussed interior, back seats and a proper boot.
Bad points are sicko fuel consumption, very close service intervals (every 4500 miles!!), a slightly naff soundtrack and it's pretty firm for people in the back.
I'd have one like a shot if I was single and childless though!
Sorry, the Lancer Ralliart GS (4-door hatchback model).
Evo is a bit much tbh. although ragging it over the mountain road would be epic fun.
I'm neither single nor childless. It'll be used as a family car and have bikes either in the back or on a rack.0 -
Surf-Matt wrote:missmarple wrote:Like I said mate, I couldn't give any amount of ars* what your opinion is - the sheer fact that you're arguing with me, a teenager is the best part of it. If you'd have any decency or common-sense you would've stopped long ago but alas you took the bait! And I'm not to blame. Also, a recurring theme with you thinking I think I am the "font of all car knowledge", if I ever suggested I was an expert, please remind me where and I'll edit where necessary.
Oh PS re the 'pretending', why would I lie about driving part way of 600 miles to the South of France with a booth full of duvets, cutlery and other household amenities? You'd have to be pretty dull to make something like that up.
So, jog on pal.
So why do you reply at great length, to every post I (and other similar BR members) post then?! Took the bait? What bait? The "know it all teen" bait?
So don't jog on, I suggest sprinting at full speed.
What about surfing? Plus, you seem to get more and more irrate with each passing thread! Not to mention you're a 30+ man with a family, and you're arguing with a relatively immature 18 year old boy..... 0 -
superb, how did i miss this thread!Surf-Matt wrote:So at the age of say 10, your parents asked you - "do you want to go to posh school our little cherub or would you like to learn to fly?"
I very much doubt it - maybe your comp is good enough to not need private school? Often happens.
I suggest that any kid that gets sent to private school (I went for 3 years) IS rather spoilt but at least it's a good education. Forfeiting posh school for flying lessons is a bit like saying you gave up food and learned to fly instead and that kids that eat food are spoilt.
When I was 18, I was constantly on the beer, surfing every waking minute and going flat out to pull as many girls as possible - that's what 18 year olds do. Meanwhile you think you're the font of all car knowledge based on your PARENTS cars (my dad had 3 Porsches, 3 ur Quattros, a 400bhp V8 pick up, a 300bhp Mitsi Shogun, a 180bhp mk1 GTi after getting the 7th mk1 Gti in the UK, a 308 GT4 and all sorts of other cars - I knew what they did but I never pretended I drove them) and no experience of a range of vehicles. Have you driven a supercar? A "proper" sports car? A Van? A supercar baiting rally rep? Stacks of humdrum cars? Cars that should be poor but are actually really good? Any idea (in practise) what under and oversteer are? Any idea what to do when a car runs out of grip? Ever done an observed run with a cop instructor? Ever used cadence braking? Sustained gearchanges? Experienced torque steer, etc, etc, etc? I would be surprised if you can answer "yes" to any of those.
When I was 18, I was completely aware that I was very inexperienced and so drove very carefully. I had no illusions of knowing more than basic car control. It took until 25 to get anywhere near competent and that was with training.
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Surf-Matt wrote:CWNT - which model/mark?
I have only tested the Evo IX FQ360 and it was so utterly brilliant that I nearly bought it there an then. Astonishingly quick, not too loud for an evo (looks wise), utterly brilliant grip levels, totally driver focussed interior, back seats and a proper boot.
Bad points are sicko fuel consumption, very close service intervals (every 4500 miles!!), a slightly naff soundtrack and it's pretty firm for people in the back.
I'd have one like a shot if I was single and childless though!
Get a drive in the Evo X when you can. IMO, better than the VIII and IX derivatives. That said, I still prefer the V's and V1's...0 -
The IX is slightly quicker and a fair bit lighter than the X but the X does sound great.
CWNT - sorry, me being stupid but it has the same "genes" so should be a solid, bullet proof belter of a car with a great chassis.0 -
Well...missmarple wrote:See, looks as if you've backfired here. You're missing the point mate and nor did you answer my question re private schools. I chose to get a flying licence instead of go to a private school, because I had the choice. Call me what you will, and call all the other teenagers spoilt too. Your post 'reeks' of old-manism, move on lav.
I'm only 21, so I'm certainly not an old man. I don't often get riled, but spoilt kids are one thing that does rub me the wrong way.
See, as I see it (and probably a few others here) you are jaded, and think that you aren't spoilt, as you know of super super rich folks, who have literally acres of land, and tens of exotic and expensive cars. So when Mummy and Daddy 'only' have a 5 bed house on a new estate, drive all kinds of Merc's, Jag's and Alfa's - opposed to living in a mansion and driving Ferrari's and Lambo's - you think you come from a 'normal' family. Wrong!!!
FFS, in your helmet cam video footage, there's a Bentley (I think) about 20 secs into the vid.... You live in a very expensive area.
So when you say you chose flying over a private school (as about 99.999% of kids would if they had a choice) and say you HAVEN'T been spoilt, it sounds ridiculous. And 'all the other teenagers' who live by you, on ''Millionares row'' are probably spoilt little rich kids too. Move out of your super posh estate and go take a look at some real working class familes. Chances are they aren't spoilt.
And just because you can't financially support yourself through university, and need Mummy and Daddy's cash, does not mean everyone relies on family. Three of my best friends are at uni, and work to pay bills, tutition fees and food. And of course beer
Those that couldn't afford it, haven't gone. They plan to work a few years, save some cash, then go as an older student. Or whatever it's called.
And ''Move on lav'' - what does this even mean....?????Boo-yah mofo
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