Contemplating a new car...

El Capitano
El Capitano Posts: 6,401
edited August 2010 in The Crudcatcher
Much as I'm happy with the current Cakemobile (Subaru Legacy Outback), I'm having a few issues driving as I'm suffering from "Frozen Shoulder". Now easy as the Cakemobile is to drive, Mrs C won't drive it as she say's its too big (Oooh er matron).

So, I'm considering getting something a bit smaller for the next year or so. Currently looking at VW Golf sized cars. Specifically, surprisingly enough, Golfs.

Anyone got any experience with the VR6 4Motion's or R32's? I'll still need 4wd and a decent sized engine as my carrying requirements hopefully won't change.

Also, any other suggestions? (Surf-Matt, just to save you the bother, we've already discounted the BMW 3 series estate... :wink: )
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  • blister pus
    blister pus Posts: 5,780
    be different. get one of those US special forces mini black helicopters.
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    El - I had a mk4 R32 for a year and loved it - I assume you'd be after the mk5?

    Lovely engine, interior is very special and they grip like mad - but the Haldex AWD is geared more for performance than any "off roading" ability. Snow will still be a pain in one.
    I do recommend them though - they feel almost like a £50k car.

    Or how about looking at an S3 too? Similar AWD and slightly quicker and better on fuel (2.0 turbo instead of 3.2 V6)?

    3 series is beyond useless in any "off road" conditions - even a tiny bit of mud has them slip sliding. Great on the road, terrible off it! You need a spare 4x4 if you have a 3 series!
  • Yeh the Audi is nice, but it's a little dull to drive in comparison to the golf. it's more business style car i alawys think quiter inside and more insulated from the outside, where with the golf ram your foot down everything roars! wicked fun
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Indeed- the R32 is a lot of fun. I loved mine!

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  • Briggo
    Briggo Posts: 3,537
    R32s are bloody nice motors, make sure you chain the thing down and place miniguns guarding it though when parked up, highly sought after in the ole criminal world ;)
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Wise words - I had to sell mine when we moved from London (with secure parking) to Bristol (street parking). £3Ks worth of damage done over two nights - failed attempts at nicking the wheels, they got frustrated so vandalised it. If I'd caught them, I'd now be in big trouble.

    Only buy one if you have a garage - it's too easy to nick parts and stick them on lesser Golfs. The mk5 isn't as bad but it's still targeted.
  • What's the budget?

    I can only suggest the usual suspects. Focus, Megane, etc.

    But if you want a Golf, probably best to get a Golf!
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  • Mr fox, he wants 4wd, your mentioned cars are Fwd
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    they do a Jag estate 2.5 petrol AWD, nice and cumfy.
    Kazza the Tranny
    Now for sale Fatty
  • He also said it needs to be smaller for his wife to drive?

    People are throwing random cars up now for fun lol
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    VWSurfbum wrote:
    they do a Jag estate 2.5 petrol AWD, nice and cumfy.

    But unreliable, as exciting to drive as a shopping trolley and very very thirsty...
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    yeah very true.
    what about one of matts little suzuki thingys?
    Kazza the Tranny
    Now for sale Fatty
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    The Jimny is great for short journeys, parking anywhere and off roading - but it's pants for long drives, isn't very good on fuel, is very slow and has the useful storage space of a Matchbox car. Might not quite "fit" the brief!
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    sounds perfect
    Kazza the Tranny
    Now for sale Fatty
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    Surf-Matt wrote:
    VWSurfbum wrote:
    they do a Jag estate 2.5 petrol AWD, nice and cumfy.

    But unreliable, as exciting to drive as a shopping trolley and very very thirsty...

    We've got a 3.0L Jag Estate AWD - had it for four years; it's been more reliable than our old C200 and our current CLK320 - the drive is actually very good, a lot more sporty than the equivalent C320 estate that we had pickings over. I do agree that it is very thirsty, gets on average 23-28MPG maximum. We didn't bother looking at those naff BMW estates, heard they're all driven around by poncy know-it-alls so didn't want to be tarnished with that image. :lol:
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    missmarple
    i have the squeezal estate, drives well and is quite economical but its had its issues but nothing compared to other cars ive owned.
    Kazza the Tranny
    Now for sale Fatty
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Looks like someone needs to brush up on their choice of cars...

    Jag Estate

    The Jaguar X-Type is an OK mid-range estate, but is a disastrously misjudged excursion off-brand for the big cat. Irritatingly ordinary, it alienates just about everyone, including, worryingly, core customers

    and

    Imagine if Paul Smith started supplying £25 suits to Tesco? The label wouldn't be enough to make it cool. And nor is the Jaguar badge here.


    and

    Residuals are absolutely pants.


    3 Series Touring

    A fine-handling small estate that benefits from the entire range (if not the M3’s V8) of BMW engines. The 335i Touring (which the 335d is as quick as) is a street-sleeper of the highest order
    .

    and:

    Then there are the big-hitter twin-turbo variants of those last two, the 335i and the 335d. Both are more than capable of scaring an M3.

    and

    Residuals are rock solid, complimenting both the badge and the car.

    :wink:
  • miss your comparing an unreliable Jag to unreliable naff mercades lol.. that is worrying both are boring as shite... i hate to do it but im with Matt on this
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    so matt what your saying is, that i'm driving a 1 series of the Jag world?
    Kazza the Tranny
    Now for sale Fatty
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    Surf-Matt wrote:
    Looks like someone needs to brush up on their choice of cars...

    Jag Estate

    The Jaguar X-Type is an OK mid-range estate, but is a disastrously misjudged excursion off-brand for the big cat. Irritatingly ordinary, it alienates just about everyone, including, worryingly, core customers

    and

    Imagine if Paul Smith started supplying £25 suits to Tesco? The label wouldn't be enough to make it cool. And nor is the Jaguar badge here.


    and

    Residuals are absolutely pants.


    3 Series Touring

    A fine-handling small estate that benefits from the entire range (if not the M3’s V8) of BMW engines. The 335i Touring (which the 335d is as quick as) is a street-sleeper of the highest order
    .

    and:

    Then there are the big-hitter twin-turbo variants of those last two, the 335i and the 335d. Both are more than capable of scaring an M3.

    and

    Residuals are rock solid, complimenting both the badge and the car.

    :wink:

    If you know so much Matt, perhaps you should watch the Top Gear special with Jeremy skiing through Alp de Chipping Norton. At the end of the day, a car is a car - everyone has different perspectives; if I wanted to hear business GCSE jargon, I'd ask the kids in the local secondary school. The matter of the fact is, we bought the Jag for £7K below list price as it had 90 miles on the clock, a demonstrator.

    The idea that you'd want to go with a BMW because you'd want to "scare" an M3, re the engine capacity is not the point - you're singing from a completely different hymn book - residuals can be glazed over when one doesn't like the look of the 3-series, let alone the sort of idealists that drive them.

    Lastly, whatever you've tried saying in the first bulletpoint - please put it in Layman's terms - because I'm not brand loyal and I'll go wherever I want to get a car, regardless of badge. :)

    Super lastly, just rofl. I criticise your opinion of a car you've not owned at all, and you attempt to fight back with a debate on how the BMW has larger engine sizes, is the BMW brand, loyality and residuals. I am telling you, our Jaguar is a heck of a lot more reliable than our previous 3 Mercedes, 2 Audis and 2 Alfas. And that the drive is more than adequate, if we want a a sporty drive - I'll get into the Merc. :P

    Reply to that. :wink:
  • Vw driving a car is some what personal taste.

    but you have to admit the X-type was generally slammed and hated by most...
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    VWSurfbum wrote:
    so matt what your saying is, that i'm driving a 1 series of the Jag world?

    I think the term to refer to is "Arrogance". 8)
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    miss your comparing an unreliable Jag to unreliable naff mercades lol.. that is worrying both are boring as shite... i hate to do it but im with Matt on this

    Have you driven or owned either? :D

    Apparentally - the only reliable car here is the BMW..... :roll:

    In fact; I'm gonna delete my posts on this thread as it's clear there is no way to win with someone who is overflowing with arrogance as well as abundance of media-fed balls.
  • You want a sporty drive you'd buy a Merc... i'm sorry are you completely bonkers, they make lovely engines, but generally handle like bricks... there not sports cars there motor way cruisers....
  • Yup driven the works car's for the merc's had the 6.3l is it or 6.4 can't rememebr litre sucker..

    Went fast in a straight line but on the whole it wasn't interesting. now the new Jag XF thats very cool!
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    You want a sporty drive you'd buy a Merc... i'm sorry are you completely bonkers, they make lovely engines, but generally handle like bricks... there not sports cars there motor way cruisers....

    Ergh, your opinion is about as useful as a chocolate kettle.
  • Thewaylander
    Thewaylander Posts: 8,594
    edited February 2010
    chocolate teapot you mean?

    But the most important note is all this talk of estates is no use tot he post either, on account he wanted a smaller car than his, similar size to x-type so his misses can drive it......
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    chocolate teapot you mean?

    A kettle boils, hot chocolate melts. Therefore heat transfer. :wink:

    And out of interest why the hell would a business use a 6.2Litre AMG? Worst investment EVAR.
  • Why, cos the owner at the time was a nutter is all i can say, we said it was a terrible buy but hey... finance is only heard so much lol
  • missmarple
    missmarple Posts: 1,980
    Right. I'm not going to add any more to this thread, as it'll just turn into a whacking great arguments where the deceptive and arrogant collide. Getting back on topic......

    I'm going to listen to the real car critics now. 8)