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  • The Truth
    The Truth Posts: 161
    Should have tried marginal gains instead, might have won the giro then.
  • chrisday
    chrisday Posts: 300
    edited January 2014
    The Truth wrote:
    Should have tried marginal gains instead, might have won the giro then.

    You forgot to mention warming down.
    @shraap | My Men 2016: G, Yogi, Cav, Boonen, Degenkolb, Martin, J-Rod, Kudus, Chaves
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    My answer re Froome v Santa is Rich's answer.

    You never claimed he was right, I never claimed he was wrong.
    I simply said he 90% claim was much higher than other pessimists.
    Something you now appear to be agreeing with.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Back to DiLuca (rather than Gold Jacket trying to make this all a black-and-blue-kit team issue as per his M.O)

    Di Rocco, the Italian Cycling Fed, has just announced that the Fed will seek damages against DiLuca

    The Killer's racking them up!
  • The Truth
    The Truth Posts: 161
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Back to DiLuca (rather than Gold Jacket trying to make this all a black-and-blue-kit team issue as per his M.O)

    Di Rocco, the Italian Cycling Fed, has just announced that the Fed will seek damages against DiLuca

    The Killer's racking them up!

    I think the whole doping vs marginal gains discussion is interesting.

    Would it be preferrable if I opened a new thread then?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    you could, but I think we all know how it would end up...

    Don't make PBo do a sequel!!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ddraver wrote:
    you could, but I think we all know how it would end up...

    Don't make PBo do a sequel!!


    'PBo. HE'S BACK.'
  • The Truth
    The Truth Posts: 161
    Who is that, a moderator? Please let me know if I'm breaking any forum rules.

    Having an opinion that is outside of the accepted groupthink should be within the rules I'd hope.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    The Truth wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Back to DiLuca (rather than Gold Jacket trying to make this all a black-and-blue-kit team issue as per his M.O)

    Di Rocco, the Italian Cycling Fed, has just announced that the Fed will seek damages against DiLuca

    The Killer's racking them up!

    I think the whole doping vs marginal gains discussion is interesting.

    Would it be preferrable if I opened a new thread then?

    There was a thread on that very topic.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • rayjay
    rayjay Posts: 1,384
    Di Luca is not trying to make excuses for his doping.


    LeMond said in his book that when riders started doping he struggled to stay in the pack.



    The worst was still to come. In the 11th stage of the Tour of Italy, during a climb called the Tre Cime di Laverado, LeMond finished 17 minutes behind the leaders. If it hadn't been for the Italian spectators urging him on, he figures he would have finished 25 to 30 minutes down. Riders he had once dominated were pedaling away from him with bewildering ease. How did they do it? he wondered. He was more impressed than angry, feeling for the first time in his career that he was out of his league.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    The Truth wrote:
    Who is that, a moderator? Please let me know if I'm breaking any forum rules.

    Having an opinion that is outside of the accepted groupthink should be within the rules I'd hope.

    I think its telling that thats where your mind went first...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus
    @JaunePeril

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    The Truth wrote:
    Who is that, a moderator? Please let me know if I'm breaking any forum rules.

    Having an opinion that is outside of the accepted groupthink should be within the rules I'd hope.


    I'm the moderator.

    Your original post is close to libel.

    I can also warn you for miscellaneous behaviour that disrupts and or upsets the general vibe in the forum.

    You can have your opinion and share it, but you should do it in a way that is constructive and conducive to an atmosphere which doesn't put others off.


    On an unrelated note, a lot of people who are obsessed with doping are trolling under the guise of sharing an opinion. I am wise to those and will warn and ban as appropriate.

    I don't care what your opinion is. I care about a good atmosphere and no libel.
    _
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus

    Bit of penicillin will clear that up. :wink:
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • The Truth
    The Truth Posts: 161
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    The Truth wrote:
    Who is that, a moderator? Please let me know if I'm breaking any forum rules.

    Having an opinion that is outside of the accepted groupthink should be within the rules I'd hope.


    I'm the moderator.

    Your original post is close to libel.

    I can also warn you for miscellaneous behaviour that disrupts and or upsets the general vibe in the forum.

    You can have your opinion and share it, but you should do it in a way that is constructive and conducive to an atmosphere which doesn't put others off.


    On an unrelated note, a lot of people who are obsessed with doping are trolling under the guise of sharing an opinion. I am wise to those and will warn and ban as appropriate.

    I don't care what your opinion is. I care about a good atmosphere and no libel.

    Let me get this straight. Calling Talansky a hypocrite is close to libel?

    What about all the personal attacks directed towards me, why is that acceptable then?
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus

    Bit of penicillin will clear that up. :wink:


    Can Rick hand out TUEs?
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    ^honk
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,431
    The Truth wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    The Truth wrote:
    Who is that, a moderator? Please let me know if I'm breaking any forum rules.

    Having an opinion that is outside of the accepted groupthink should be within the rules I'd hope.


    I'm the moderator.

    Your original post is close to libel.

    I can also warn you for miscellaneous behaviour that disrupts and or upsets the general vibe in the forum.

    You can have your opinion and share it, but you should do it in a way that is constructive and conducive to an atmosphere which doesn't put others off.


    On an unrelated note, a lot of people who are obsessed with doping are trolling under the guise of sharing an opinion. I am wise to those and will warn and ban as appropriate.

    I don't care what your opinion is. I care about a good atmosphere and no libel.

    Let me get this straight. Calling Talansky a hypocrite is close to libel?

    What about all the personal attacks directed towards me, why is that acceptable then?


    If anyone has made a personal attack on you, report it.
    “New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!
  • salsiccia1
    salsiccia1 Posts: 3,725
    Is it time to have a separate forum for doping news/tests/innuendo/tittle-tattle/potential libel, so that if people want to dip their toes in the murky water they can do it separately to the Pro Race one?

    There are so many threads that descend into this really tiresome to-and-froing. Can the mods have that forum for the permanently afflicted and move any threads like this into there, so the rest of us can enjoy some more grown-up discussions about the other more positive aspects of pro-cycling like?
    It's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    Salsiccia1 wrote:
    Is it time to have a separate forum for doping news/tests/innuendo/tittle-tattle/potential libel, so that if people want to dip their toes in the murky water they can do it separately to the Pro Race one?

    There are so many threads that descend into this really tiresome to-and-froing. Can the mods have that forum for the permanently afflicted and move any threads like this into there, so the rest of us can enjoy some more grown-up discussions about the other more positive aspects of pro-cycling like?


    They have other homes where some of them ply their trade and have done so for ages - Clinic and VR's The Dark Side.

    Shows a sign of their obsession that they want to try to create a 3rd home - how very Tory Party! - over here
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus

    Can you catch that from koalas?
    Correlation is not causation.
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    edited January 2014
    press release (RT'd by Friebe)

    http://legaciclismo.wordpress.com/2014/ ... sua-gener/


    And this from the Italian Cyclists Association

    http://www.accpi.it/laccpi-intenta-caus ... famazione/
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    More reactions from the peloton:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali- ... s-comments

    Nibali: “For me, Danilo is at the end of his tether and he doesn’t know what to do anymore to earn a bit of loose change,“I’m sorry to say this because he was a great teammate, but now I can only think that he has become a bit brain-damaged.”

    Damiano Caruso: “today 99% of the peloton is clean.” *Any evidence he's wrong? :wink:

    Charly Wegelius:“I don’t think there’s much more to say beyond that I don’t agree at all that that’s accurate. (the 90% claim) It’s far from accurate I think.”

    Joaquim Rodriguez: "Di Luca doesn’t deserve to be given the chance to make publicity for himself at our expense.”
    To which, from another article:-
    Di Luca:"I didn’t get paid but I don’t want to talk for now, I've nothing more to say."
    In an extract released by the producers of the television show, Le Iene, that will broadcast the interview on Wednesday evening, Di Luca was careful not to reveal specific information or name riders, doctors and team staff who may have helped him dope during his career.



    *Unfortunately Mr C has his own black mark.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    TailWindHome wrote:
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus

    Bit of penicillin will clear that up. :wink:


    Can Rick hand out TUEs?

    Above The Cows wrote:
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Applies to posts, too

    These threads are the Trials of Sisyphus

    Can you catch that from koalas?

    You guys! much lollage! :lol::lol::lol:
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:

    He feels the need to dope because he believes the lies he has told himself. Classic addict behaviour.

    Yup. I know you didn't care for the article, but Sykes "addiction to doping" bit was apt.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,695
    So, do I gather that he revealed chuff all then?

    Only thing that I can see is the velocast pair getting themselves into trouble with a Wiggo/Charity Benefit type remark...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Richmond Racer
    Richmond Racer Posts: 8,561
    ddraver wrote:
    So, do I gather that he revealed chuff all then?

    Only thing that I can see is the velocast pair getting themselves into trouble with a Wiggo/Charity Benefit type remark...


    Unimpressive stuff from them
  • Yellow Peril
    Yellow Peril Posts: 4,466
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    So, do I gather that he revealed chuff all then?

    Only thing that I can see is the velocast pair getting themselves into trouble with a Wiggo/Charity Benefit type remark...


    Unimpressive stuff from them

    Is that a reference to the tweets between lionel birnie and Scott O'raw last night? Incredibly irresponsible from both of them. O'raw shouldn't have started it and birnie shouldn't have perpetuated it. Such a conversation between them should have been off line from the beginning. Classic self-importance from both of them.
    @JaunePeril

    Winner of the Bike Radar Pro Race Wiggins Hour Prediction Competition
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    Yellow Peril wrote:
    Richmond Racer wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    So, do I gather that he revealed chuff all then?

    Only thing that I can see is the velocast pair getting themselves into trouble with a Wiggo/Charity Benefit type remark...


    Unimpressive stuff from them

    Is that a reference to the tweets between lionel birnie and Scott O'raw last night? Incredibly irresponsible from both of them. O'raw shouldn't have started it and birnie shouldn't have perpetuated it. Such a conversation between them should have been off line from the beginning. Classic self-importance from both of them.

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