W.I.P Kinesis Pha5e**UPDATE 14/04/12**

jay12

i have a quad front hub atm. then will be upgrading to xt hubs on mavic en321 rims

ilovedirt

why not get something with a 20mm front hub? they're a lot stiffer than QR.

Whytepeak

ilovedirt wrote:

why not get something with a 20mm front hub? they're a lot stiffer than QR.

+1

Just get the 20mm hub version of XT and some converters for the time being.

jay12

the xt 20mm hub is alot more expensive and is center lock

ilovedirt

so don't buy XT? you can get a used mavic or whatever rim on a pro II hub for less than £50

Whytepeak

jay12 wrote:

the xt 20mm hub is alot more expensive and is center lock

Theres just no pleasing some people I tell you...

There are other hubs out there

ilovedirt

Whytepeak wrote:

jay12 wrote:

the xt 20mm hub is alot more expensive and is center lock

Theres just no pleasing some people I tell you...

There are other hubs out there

Aren't XT hubs looseball anyway? more hassle than they're worth at that price, IMO. Get a decent sealed bearing hub and when the stock bearings wear out, replace them with some top notch ones, just as smooth as any looseball hub and half the effort.

lawman

i agree, you're ok with buying second forks so why not buy some second hand wheels????

such as this fron wheel

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/585582/

lawman

and a matching (ish) rear wheel

http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/565479/

ilovedirt

yeah, i'd really advocate buying used hope hubs, they last forever in my experience

jay12

cool. i will try and find some once i get the fork. but first all the rest of the drivetrain and other parts which i will buy on thursday/friday this week

lawman

if i were you id buy wheels first cos then you know for definite what type of fork you can buy, ie that hope will be convertable to qr or 20mm, another might be just 20mm or qr, wheels first

jay12

lawman wrote:

if i were you id buy wheels first cos then you know for definite what type of fork you can buy, ie that hope will be convertable to qr or 20mm, another might be just 20mm or qr, wheels first

good point. but if i find some forks which are really good, i might as well buy them and the get wheels

ilovedirt

hope wheels do come up fairly frequently on ebay etc, i'd say get those dropoffs or something, though you could at least buy the front wheel before or at the same time if you can afford it, the back wheel isn't as important with regards to compatability, obviously.

jay12

ilovedirt wrote:

hope wheels do come up fairly frequently on ebay etc, i'd say get those dropoffs or something, though you could at least buy the front wheel before or at the same time if you can afford it, the back wheel isn't as important with regards to compatability, obviously.

in my case thats different. i need them both. the cassette body is screwed up so the cassette doesn't fit propely which means if i don't get a rear wheel then i wouldn't be able to ride

Whytepeak

jay12 wrote:

ilovedirt wrote:

hope wheels do come up fairly frequently on ebay etc, i'd say get those dropoffs or something, though you could at least buy the front wheel before or at the same time if you can afford it, the back wheel isn't as important with regards to compatability, obviously.

in my case thats different. i need them both. the cassette body is screwed up so the cassette doesn't fit propely which means if i don't get a rear wheel then i wouldn't be able to ride

new freehub body?

ilovedirt

I know you'll be wanting a new wheel, but obviously you can go for pretty much anything, the priority is getting a front wheel that is compatible with the fork you buy.

jay12

Whytepeak wrote:

jay12 wrote:

ilovedirt wrote:

hope wheels do come up fairly frequently on ebay etc, i'd say get those dropoffs or something, though you could at least buy the front wheel before or at the same time if you can afford it, the back wheel isn't as important with regards to compatability, obviously.

in my case thats different. i need them both. the cassette body is screwed up so the cassette doesn't fit propely which means if i don't get a rear wheel then i wouldn't be able to ride

new freehub body?

i already told you that i cba splashing out on something that will be used for a few days or so as i was going to upgrade wheels as soon as possible

pastey_boy

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=297
these have to be the biggest bargain out there both hubs can be converted cheaply to run on any fork or frame, they,re hand built and heavy enough for messing about on. im gonna get a pair as back up

jay12

pastey_boy wrote:

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=297
these have to be the biggest bargain out there both hubs can be converted cheaply to run on any fork or frame, they,re hand built and heavy enough for messing about on. im gonna get a pair as back up

woah. i'm getting these on thursday/friday
so they are 20mm hubs but come with QR adapters?

ilovedirt

jay12 wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=297
these have to be the biggest bargain out there both hubs can be converted cheaply to run on any fork or frame, they,re hand built and heavy enough for messing about on. im gonna get a pair as back up

woah. i'm getting these on thursday/friday
so they are 20mm hubs but come with QR adapters?

sweet, i forgot about those
and yep, they can be used for either.

jay12

YAY! they look awesome too. thanks pasty_boy

pastey_boy

you order what you want then you can swap anytime.

pastey_boy

order them with either the qr adapter or the 20mm adapter its up to you. i would advise getting a bolt through 20mm fork though and i would get rid of the large ring and fit a bash guard too for ground clearance and the look better

jay12

so if i want to have 20mm on the front i need to get 20mm adapters and if i want QR on the back i need QR adapters?

ilovedirt

yep, pretty much. You can buy the adaptors separate though if you change fork or frame though. Depending how much they are, it could be worth buying them as well, just in case, you know?

jay12

ilovedirt wrote:

yep, pretty much. You can buy the adaptors separate though if you change fork or frame though. Depending how much they are, it could be worth buying them as well, just in case, you know?

they'r £12.99. i'll buy em if i need em

ilovedirt

fair play

pastey_boy

you order the wheels with whatever adapters you need . they are included in the price so you will order the wheels with a 20mm front and qr rear. simples

jay12

ok thanks for clearing that up