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  • super_davo wrote:
    I've got a Direto. ERG works very well on longer intervals, but takes a few seconds to get up to resistance, so not great for really short intervals and sprints. Drivo is supposed to be the same; Drivo 2 is much improved - but the Neo is what you want for very short intervals.

    From using mine this week I would say the same.....on the longer intervals its very good but does take 2-3 seconds to ramp up

    Have done a few short intervals on it and i didnt find it to bad to be honest, it does allow you to ramp up your effort instead of hitting a brick wall
  • bendip
    bendip Posts: 114
    fair price for those using wider tyres this time of year..(i must have washed 2lb of crap of my bike after yesterdays ride :( )..a 5% discount code popped up for me..so £11.39 delivered

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  • super_davo wrote:
    I've got a Direto. ERG works very well on longer intervals, but takes a few seconds to get up to resistance, so not great for really short intervals and sprints. Drivo is supposed to be the same; Drivo 2 is much improved - but the Neo is what you want for very short intervals.

    From using mine this week I would say the same.....on the longer intervals its very good but does take 2-3 seconds to ramp up

    Have done a few short intervals on it and i didnt find it to bad to be honest, it does allow you to ramp up your effort instead of hitting a brick wall

    I don't think it's as bad as people are making it out to be, or they possible have issues with the data transfer between the trainer and the ant+ source.

    2-3 seconds isn't really that bad, even on a 20 second interval. In Shane @ Lamma labs review the power graph looked pretty much spot on all the way along, including shorter 20 second intervals...

    I got a call to say it's in store now, so I think I might got for it and if I don't like it I'll just return it or sell it on at a profit. I think I would definitely be able to sell a lightly used Drivo for more than £450!
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    mroli wrote:
    Right - got a Vortex - should I go Flux/Direto or stay where I am?

    You've missed the Direto deal (unless you want to pay £1000 for one!

    Flux is good for the price, i'd probably hang on (unless you really need a new trainer soon) incase there are any further deals in the run up to Xmas.
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Chris Bass wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    Right - got a Vortex - should I go Flux/Direto or stay where I am?

    You've missed the Direto deal (unless you want to pay £1000 for one!

    Flux is good for the price, i'd probably hang on (unless you really need a new trainer soon) incase there are any further deals in the run up to Xmas.

    Direto stil £599 at Merlin & Cycle Republic etc
  • mroli
    mroli Posts: 3,622
    apreading wrote:

    Direto still £599 at Merlin & Cycle Republic etc

    Flux back up to £450. which makes the Direto more seductive.
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    apreading wrote:
    Chris Bass wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    Right - got a Vortex - should I go Flux/Direto or stay where I am?

    You've missed the Direto deal (unless you want to pay £1000 for one!

    Flux is good for the price, i'd probably hang on (unless you really need a new trainer soon) incase there are any further deals in the run up to Xmas.

    Direto stil £599 at Merlin & Cycle Republic etc

    ah!! i hadn't seen that, damn now i want one too!!

    edit - sorry i was thinking of the drivo! their names are far too similar!

    edit2 - drivo back to £650 at halfords (possible 10% off with click and collect!)
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    DCrainmaker prefers the Direto to the Drivo - unless you really need to bigger flywheel which he says almost nobody will.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!
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  • itboffin wrote:
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!

    Dont forget the year round subscriptions to Swift/TrainerRoad/ Strava
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Oh yes silly me, best sign up to all of them just in case
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    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Actually that does remind me, I'm doing recovery training now so started using my Tacx software again instead of bashing ut netflix box sets and since i used it at the beginning of the year they now also have some live flyby style routes on the free version. I did the central park route at the weekend and a couple of power ramps FOC.

    Free as in beer :-)
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • itboffin wrote:
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!

    Dont forget the year round subscriptions to Swift/TrainerRoad/ Strava

    And the fancy fan, and the fancy fork adapter that makes you go up and down hills, and then learning how to build your own rocker plate (or waiting for the Cyclops one to be released for around 500 quid!). :lol:
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Unless its atleast 1k im not interested
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    Solstice21 wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!

    Dont forget the year round subscriptions to Swift/TrainerRoad/ Strava

    And the fancy fan, and the fancy fork adapter that makes you go up and down hills

    The fancy mat, sweat thong, dedicated wheel/ tyre/ bike, apple dongle to connect to fancy 40" 4k tv.

    Is it just my mate who's kitted out a bedroom like that only to discover he doesn't like the turbo much so doesn't bother?
  • Dinyull wrote:
    Solstice21 wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!

    Dont forget the year round subscriptions to Swift/TrainerRoad/ Strava

    And the fancy fan, and the fancy fork adapter that makes you go up and down hills

    The fancy mat, sweat thong, dedicated wheel/ tyre/ bike, apple dongle to connect to fancy 40" 4k tv.

    Is it just my mate who's kitted out a bedroom like that only to discover he doesn't like the turbo much so doesn't bother?

    :mrgreen:
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Dinyull wrote:
    The fancy mat, sweat thong
    These both make good sense - I used to have a pool of sweat on the floor (under the bottom bracket) after every session; it ran down the frame tubes, presumably dissolving various bits of bike along the way (certainly corroded the screw holding the cable guide under the BB).

    Cheaper alternatives are available of course - My mat is a £10 pack of rubbery floor tiles from Halfords, and an old hand towel draped over the bars and top tube catches the sweat very effectively.

    Junior loves it - her club do weekly coached group rides on Zwift...
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  • dinyull
    dinyull Posts: 2,979
    TGOTB wrote:
    Cheaper alternatives are available of course - My mat is a £10 pack of rubbery floor tiles from Halfords, and an old hand towel draped over the bars and top tube catches the sweat very effectively.

    Precisely.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985
    Dinyull wrote:
    TGOTB wrote:
    Cheaper alternatives are available of course - My mat is a £10 pack of rubbery floor tiles from Halfords, and an old hand towel draped over the bars and top tube catches the sweat very effectively.

    Precisely.

    Yep I have those as well, they were 2 packs for £18 IIRC, we have a pair of turbos on them - alas out in the garage, so pretty bloody cold at the moment.
    I have a large screen laptop, old and worth not very much, a marginally damaged (otherwise perfect) Dell 22" monitor off of the bay of e, for something like £30, and 3 (three) fans - I rarely use all 3, more for if both of us want to turbo simultaneously. I us TR but have a subscription to BigringVR - not used it an age though, should give it a go and see what has changed, they are, or were, developing it constantly.
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  • apreading wrote:
    Chris Bass wrote:
    mroli wrote:
    Right - got a Vortex - should I go Flux/Direto or stay where I am?

    You've missed the Direto deal (unless you want to pay £1000 for one!

    Flux is good for the price, i'd probably hang on (unless you really need a new trainer soon) incase there are any further deals in the run up to Xmas.

    Direto stil £599 at Merlin & Cycle Republic etc

    Does that look like the 2019 model in cycle republic? The blurb attached certainly looks that way?
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Daniel B wrote:
    pretty bloody cold at the moment.
    Isn't that what you want?

    Ours is in a boarded-in loft, making for a very efficient use of space, with one bike on the turbo in the middle, where there's standing headroom, and a couple of others, including my TT bike, tucked under the eaves; we even have a Velux window that can be opened while pedalling.

    I have to admit to having gone the whole hog, so we have a Tacx Neo and 28" 4k monitor. I have a paid-for Zwift subscription, which means Junior's is free. It's sufficiently engaging that I actually look forward to doing a session almost as much as a real ride (often choose it instead of a real ride in Winter, when it can get 6-7 hours of use a week). Particularly good for WFH days; I can get a decent ride in at lunchtime whilst keeping an eye on my email, and be back at my desk within seconds if something urgent crops up.

    We also have a set of rollers in the loft. Turns out that Zwift on rollers is actually quite hard - I have yet to ride the S-bends in Watopia without falling off - so they don't get much use...
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  • Daniel B wrote:
    alas out in the garage, so pretty bloody cold at the moment.

    I wish I could train in the cold, I've just had to endure ~26C while getting a brief session in the kitchen before dinner! :shock: :lol:
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985
    Daniel B wrote:
    alas out in the garage, so pretty bloody cold at the moment.

    I wish I could train in the cold, I've just had to endure ~26C while getting a brief session in the kitchen before dinner! :shock: :lol:

    I read that as minus 26c initially, I thought that you were living in the antartic or something!

    And yes, true enough, cold is preferable - my garage can be +40 in the summer too.
    Only mental barrier to get over in the depths of winter is getting all togged up with bibtights etc, just to go to the garage, seems a bit counter intuitive.
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  • fenix
    fenix Posts: 5,437
    Daniel B wrote:
    Only mental barrier to get over in the depths of winter is getting all togged up with bibtights etc, just to go to the garage, seems a bit counter intuitive.

    You don't need bibtights to turbo in a garage. You've no wind over the legs to chill them.

    I just put on a nice thick Aldi cycling jacket, shorts and base and march out to the garage. It's chilly to begin with but within a very short while the jacket comes off and I turn on the fans to cool me down. If you get remote controlled switches its a big help with the fans.

    Don't forget a towel and water - and if you dont need the towel you're not working hard enough.
  • Fenix wrote:
    Daniel B wrote:
    Only mental barrier to get over in the depths of winter is getting all togged up with bibtights etc, just to go to the garage, seems a bit counter intuitive.

    You don't need bibtights to turbo in a garage. You've no wind over the legs to chill them.

    I just put on a nice thick Aldi cycling jacket, shorts and base and march out to the garage. It's chilly to begin with but within a very short while the jacket comes off and I turn on the fans to cool me down. If you get remote controlled switches its a big help with the fans.

    Don't forget a towel and water - and if you dont need the towel you're not working hard enough.

    Have you been watching me do turbo sessions??? :D .....If it's really cold don't put fan on for 1st few minutes.

    Back to trainerroad for me now. Yes. Zwift is great but I like watching stuff on youtube, iPlayer, etc and let erg mode do it's business.
  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    itboffin wrote:
    this forum has really peaked in the mamil stakes, £1000 for a turbo trainer is insane and when it dropped to £500 ish that's not much better.

    where do i get one? nom!

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