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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Just tried again for about the 100th time to get that SRAM shifting without rub in all gears, its clearly a cable tension problem but really I find it hard to believe SRAM setup is so sensitive, like a quarter turn here and there.

    That can't be right?
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  • keyser__soze
    keyser__soze Posts: 2,067
    itboffin wrote:
    Just tried again for about the 100th time to get that SRAM shifting without rub in all gears, its clearly a cable tension problem but really I find it hard to believe SRAM setup is so sensitive, like a quarter turn here and there

    I've found SRAM (Rival/Force/Red across five or six bikes in our stable, some long departed) much easier to index than Shimano, and as I'm going through a similar issue with Shimano right now (and at the risk of teaching granny how to suck eggs), are you sure your derailleur cage/hanger is straight? Tried taking the shifter off the bars and running with just the last section of outer direct to the derailleur to discount any outer/routing slowness?
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    edited April 2015
    Put the tractor into race dress for the weekend (okay, sprint tri). By which I mean removed the mudguards and put on 25's rather than 32c Randonneur's. It still doesn't look massively racy :roll:

    Edit: tri bars too now. And I'm commuting on it tomorrow. Oh dear
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Got the Madone onto the bike stand to start prepping it for riding in the sunshine and the quick link is not moving correctly (the chain jumps). Is it easier just to remove and replace or is that wasting money and a remove / clean / lube and refit going to be enough?
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,900
    Got the Madone onto the bike stand to start prepping it for riding in the sunshine and the quick link is not moving correctly (the chain jumps). Is it easier just to remove and replace or is that wasting money and a remove / clean / lube and refit going to be enough?
    Remove, clean, inspect, lube and refit. Alternatively you could ask the expert on quick links and conspiracy theories.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    itboffin wrote:
    Just tried again for about the 100th time to get that SRAM shifting without rub in all gears, its clearly a cable tension problem but really I find it hard to believe SRAM setup is so sensitive, like a quarter turn here and there

    I've found SRAM (Rival/Force/Red across five or six bikes in our stable, some long departed) much easier to index than Shimano, and as I'm going through a similar issue with Shimano right now (and at the risk of teaching granny how to suck eggs), are you sure your derailleur cage/hanger is straight? Tried taking the shifter off the bars and running with just the last section of outer direct to the derailleur to discount any outer/routing slowness?

    yep nothing bent out of shape
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  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    New bikes?

    Shimano is a dream to index. HTH.
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Got the Madone onto the bike stand to start prepping it for riding in the sunshine and the quick link is not moving correctly (the chain jumps). Is it easier just to remove and replace or is that wasting money and a remove / clean / lube and refit going to be enough?
    Remove, clean, inspect, lube and refit. Alternatively you could ask the expert on quick links and conspiracy theories.

    It is a quicklink not a powerlink. Did he not read the bit on how to fit them? "I can't pull the chain hard enough, without cutting my fingers" Then don't you doink. RTFM and note the bit that says get the direction right and fit them loosely. Then stand on the pedal and listen to the gentle 'click' of the powerlink connecting.
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Alternatively you could ask the expert on quick links and conspiracy theories.
    Brilliant! How did I manage to miss that?

    Can we start a new "Thread to tell everyone what manc33 threads you've spotted"?
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,900
    TGOTB wrote:
    Veronese68 wrote:
    Alternatively you could ask the expert on quick links and conspiracy theories.
    Brilliant! How did I manage to miss that?

    Can we start a new "Thread to tell everyone what manc33 threads you've spotted"?
    The conspiracy thread, now renamed as the Gillian Anderson thread in the Bottom Bracket is really bizarre. The guy is beyond certifiable.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    replaced brake pads and headset on the ribble, first time for both since i built it in 2008, boy did it need it

    ... about 2 years ago :oops:
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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    Just retaped the bars on the CR1. Always a strangely satisfying exercise. Then the first test ride with renewed drivetrain and tyres was aborted because of a disturbing pain from the scrotal region. Gutted; the weather's near perfect.

    Closer inspection revealed an unexpected lump. Docs appointment this afternoon :(
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Hope that goes well Keef.

    Anyone got any idea how best to straighten a Hanger (although i am not convinced its not the dérailleur) on a steel framed bike, I thought i had done it.

    Should i just chuck it at the LBS?
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,900
    rubertoe wrote:
    Hope that goes well Keef.

    Anyone got any idea how best to straighten a Hanger (although i am not convinced its not the dérailleur) on a steel framed bike, I thought i had done it.

    Should i just chuck it at the LBS?
    One of these:
    493080_1.jpg
    If you can get the bike to Kingston you are more than welcome to use mine.

    Also hope all goes well K66. I wouldn't recommend fettling that yourself.
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Probably quicker to just let my LBS do it.

    is their any tool that you don't own (other than a truing stand ;) )?
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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    rubertoe wrote:
    Hope that goes well Keef.

    Anyone got any idea how best to straighten a Hanger (although i am not convinced its not the dérailleur) on a steel framed bike, I thought i had done it.

    Should i just chuck it at the LBS?

    Why thank you both!

    I always straightened hangers on steel framed bikes with a very large adjustable spanner and a lot of squinting. The hanger alignment tool suggested by Veronese would be a more precise method. I'm thinking of buying one myself; the mech on the winter bike is tickling the spokes when in the 27 sprocket :shock:
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Agree with the above - hanger alignment tool is a very useful thing to have, especially if you ride any of your bikes off road and fall off them from time to time. Although you can use a big adjustable spanner (or even, in extremis, the mech itself) you really need the proper tool to figure out exactly how far and which way to straighten it. After I got mine, I was surprised how many of my niggling mech adjustment issues had been down to hanger alignment.

    Best wishes to Keef, hope all goes well!
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,900
    rubertoe wrote:
    is their any tool that you don't own (other than a truing stand ;) )?
    :oops: Having the right tool for the job makes it so much easier. There are a few I don't have, usually ones where something else can be made to do the job just as well.
    Agree about using a large adjustable spanner, just the right tool is easier. Try it by eye and if it doesn't help go to the LBS. Also true that niggling adjustment issues are often down to alignment. That's why I bought my magnificent tool.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    TGOTB wrote:
    ...or even, in extremis, the mech itself...
    If you do use the mech as a lever be prepared to buy a new mech very shortly afterwards. Bent mech = permanently b*ggered shifting. I did this myself about 18 months ago (less extremis more ignorance) after a fall on ice in RP in Feb last year.
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    TGOTB wrote:
    ...or even, in extremis, the mech itself...
    If you do use the mech as a lever be prepared to buy a new mech very shortly afterwards. Bent mech = permanently b*ggered shifting. I did this myself about 18 months ago (less extremis more ignorance) after a fall on ice in RP in Feb last year.
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  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    I fear its the mech....

    although i replaced the mech that was on there with one i had in the spares box. it just looks out even after my attempted straighten.

    meh.
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    rower63 wrote:
    TGOTB wrote:
    ...or even, in extremis, the mech itself...
    If you do use the mech as a lever be prepared to buy a new mech very shortly afterwards. Bent mech = permanently b*ggered shifting. I did this myself about 18 months ago (less extremis more ignorance) after a fall on ice in RP in Feb last year.
    By "in extremis" I really meant "mid race" - should have made that clearer. As R63 illustrates, it's a high risk strategy.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    Post hell bike cleaning, not to bad thankfully it was dry on Sunday
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  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    After having a rattle coming from the rear end for the last few days and checking the pannier/mudguard fixings I think I've cured it. One of the chain tugs was 1 turn loose, tomorrow will tell.
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • bendertherobot
    bendertherobot Posts: 11,684
    Put an entire bike together. The works.

    And, managed to get a SRAM yaw front mech working perfectly first time.
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  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    redvee wrote:
    After having a rattle coming from the rear end for the last few days and checking the pannier/mudguard fixings I think I've cured it. One of the chain tugs was 1 turn loose, tomorrow will tell.

    Tomorrow came and went silently :D I like a silent bike apart from the White Industries freewheel.
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • gbsahne001
    gbsahne001 Posts: 1,974
    Swapped this

    4kvfht.png

    For this

    28sggp.jpg

    What a difference......it's like having a new bike
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,336
    Yep, forks are the only useful implementation of carbon fibre composites in cycling... but they knew that in the early 90s already
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Yep, forks are the only useful implementation of carbon fibre composites in cycling... but they knew that in the early 90s already

    Yeah - it'll never catch on for other bits of the bike... :wink:
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    The shifting on my steel bike is rubbish I think I need a Supersix evo with SRAM red instead.
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
    Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.