Thread To Tell Everyone What Fettling You've Just Done

spasypaddy

its a brand new freehub, the pawls are moving perfectly.

i actually have two brand new freehubs and are both doing exactly the same

rolf_f

spasypaddy wrote:

its a brand new freehub, the pawls are moving perfectly.

i actually have two brand new freehubs and are both doing exactly the same

OK, the pawls move perfectly. That implies that it isn't the pawls that are locking the freehub - if it was, then there would be no reason for the freehub not to freewheel. Does the freehub work when loosely fitted? ie when you screw everything together, could you be effectively screwing the freehub body to the hub somehow? Can't see how that would happen with the Campag ones but what else can it be?

Does the old freehub do this if you try to fit it now? If not, is there any design difference between old and new?

veronese68

Rolf F wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

its a brand new freehub, the pawls are moving perfectly.

i actually have two brand new freehubs and are both doing exactly the same

OK, the pawls move perfectly. That implies that it isn't the pawls that are locking the freehub - if it was, then there would be no reason for the freehub not to freewheel. Does the freehub work when loosely fitted? ie when you screw everything together, could you be effectively screwing the freehub body to the hub somehow? Can't see how that would happen with the Campag ones but what else can it be?

Does the old freehub do this if you try to fit it now? If not, is there any design difference between old and new?

If it works when loosely fitted has some sort of spacer or seal been doubled up, so you have the old one and a new one? This would cause the whole thing to bind when tightened.

redvee

New Swiss Stop Greens on the rear wheels, 1900 miles from them this time. Much better than the 1200 I got last time over the winter.

asprilla

redvee wrote:

New Swiss Stop Greens on the rear wheels, 1900 miles from them this time. Much better than the 1200 I got last time over the winter.

You should get the blues (BXP) ones (cheaper from german stores). They are better and last longer. They blues are replacing the greens.

spasypaddy

Veronese68 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

its a brand new freehub, the pawls are moving perfectly.

i actually have two brand new freehubs and are both doing exactly the same

OK, the pawls move perfectly. That implies that it isn't the pawls that are locking the freehub - if it was, then there would be no reason for the freehub not to freewheel. Does the freehub work when loosely fitted? ie when you screw everything together, could you be effectively screwing the freehub body to the hub somehow? Can't see how that would happen with the Campag ones but what else can it be?

Does the old freehub do this if you try to fit it now? If not, is there any design difference between old and new?

If it works when loosely fitted has some sort of spacer or seal been doubled up, so you have the old one and a new one? This would cause the whole thing to bind when tightened.

nope, no double seal, ive double and triple checked

daddy0

Asprilla wrote:

redvee wrote:

New Swiss Stop Greens on the rear wheels, 1900 miles from them this time. Much better than the 1200 I got last time over the winter.

You should get the blues (BXP) ones (cheaper from german stores). They are better and last longer. They blues are replacing the greens.

I'm after some new brake blocks too. Are these the ones you mean?

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k331/a93287/brake-pads-flash-pro-exp-shimano-sram-4-pieces.html?mfid=528

asprilla

Daddy0 wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

redvee wrote:

New Swiss Stop Greens on the rear wheels, 1900 miles from them this time. Much better than the 1200 I got last time over the winter.

You should get the blues (BXP) ones (cheaper from german stores). They are better and last longer. They blues are replacing the greens.

I'm after some new brake blocks too. Are these the ones you mean?

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k331/a93287/brake-pads-flash-pro-exp-shimano-sram-4-pieces.html?mfid=528

That's the ones.

rolf_f

spasypaddy wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

Rolf F wrote:

spasypaddy wrote:

its a brand new freehub, the pawls are moving perfectly.

i actually have two brand new freehubs and are both doing exactly the same

OK, the pawls move perfectly. That implies that it isn't the pawls that are locking the freehub - if it was, then there would be no reason for the freehub not to freewheel. Does the freehub work when loosely fitted? ie when you screw everything together, could you be effectively screwing the freehub body to the hub somehow? Can't see how that would happen with the Campag ones but what else can it be?

Does the old freehub do this if you try to fit it now? If not, is there any design difference between old and new?

If it works when loosely fitted has some sort of spacer or seal been doubled up, so you have the old one and a new one? This would cause the whole thing to bind when tightened.

nope, no double seal, ive double and triple checked

So do they or don't they work when loosely fitted? Does the old one still work. If so, what is the difference between old and new. You should be able to work this out. Unless they are possessed........

spasypaddy

Rolf F wrote:

So do they or don't they work when loosely fitted? Does the old one still work. If so, what is the difference between old and new. You should be able to work this out. Unless they are possessed........

if its loose it works, until its in the frame of the bike when it doesnt work as it gets compressed by the skewer.

the old hub is long gone. so cant compare

rolf_f

spasypaddy wrote:

the old hub is long gone. so cant compare

Silly boy.

I'm stuck until I can have another look at my freehubs. This would have been much easier if you'd kept the old til you'd fitted the new. Please promise not to do it again!

spasypaddy

the old one was chucked about 2 years ago.

rolf_f

spasypaddy wrote:

the old one was chucked about 2 years ago.

You probably need to keep on top of your maintenance programme a bit more thoroughly!

Are you even sure it is the correct freehub? Photos might help but prob best on your Workshop thread.

BTW - you can replace the bearings in a lot of freehubs - probably cheaper than replacing the whole thing (approx £6 in my case rather than £50) and in this case more effective too!

spasypaddy

the wheel is a spare, and i wanted it for turbo use, then i did so much damage two weeks ago i needed the wheel. so i went back to try and fix it after i gave up 2 years ago.

yes its the right freehub, planet x only have one freehub for the wheel. i have two of them. neither work.

the freehub needed replacing as the planet x one is made of cheese and was too cut into to be used anymore

UndercoverElephant

spasypaddy wrote:

the wheel is a spare, and i wanted it for turbo use, then i did so much damage two weeks ago i needed the wheel. so i went back to try and fix it after i gave up 2 years ago.

yes its the right freehub, planet x only have one freehub for the wheel. i have two of them. neither work.

the freehub needed replacing as the planet x one is made of cheese and was too cut into to be used anymore

Only time I've had anything like this, it was when I'd tried to replace the bearings on the hub itself, but hadn't quite applied enough mallet, meaning that the freehub was pressing against the bearing.

Basically, what I'm saying is "try a bigger hammer".

spasypaddy

i havent tried a hammer yet at all. maybe thats where im going wrong.

rubertoe

spasypaddy wrote:

i havent tried a hammer yet at all. maybe thats where im going wrong.

Everyone knows that a hammer is the only tool that you ever really need.

UndercoverElephant

spasypaddy wrote:

i havent tried a hammer yet at all. maybe thats where im going wrong.

Good grief, man! What were you doing all this time?

spasypaddy

so i just had another go. took the freehub off again. removed the seal. replaced it.

didnt work.

Drew123

stu-bim wrote:

rubertoe wrote:

Drew123 wrote:

It's the way forward. Having dismantled, cleaned, greased and reassembled every single component of my bike in an attempt to eliminate my creak and failed mserably I've booked it into the LBS on Tuesday.

Did you check your cleats (and Knees)?

Knees +1, maybe even a dodgy hip?

Dismantled, cleaned, greased and reassembled knees. If that doesn't fix it I'll try the hips...

redvee

Asprilla wrote:

Daddy0 wrote:

Asprilla wrote:

redvee wrote:

New Swiss Stop Greens on the rear wheels, 1900 miles from them this time. Much better than the 1200 I got last time over the winter.

You should get the blues (BXP) ones (cheaper from german stores). They are better and last longer. They blues are replacing the greens.

I'm after some new brake blocks too. Are these the ones you mean?

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k331/a93287/brake-pads-flash-pro-exp-shimano-sram-4-pieces.html?mfid=528

That's the ones.

Using V Brakes so need MTB style, not road style blocks.

redvee

Put the 35c Speedkings on the spare Kaffenback wheels only to find PX are right when they say the frame is for 32c max tyres, took them off and put the 32c Houffalize that came on the Singlecross. Put the XT wheels on KAffenback as day to day wheels, did notice Gatorskins are a lot easier to fit on the new rims.

asprilla

Swapped Kenda Small Blocks for 4Seasons on the Roadrat, bled / plugged the brakes and taped the bars.

Uber stoppy.

Tiny bit of rub on the front brake, which I think is a result of not pushing the pistons in properly when bleeding the brakes. Will look at that tomorrow. No access to the bike parking yet so on the Brompton again tomorrow.

redvee

Swapped the bull bars on the SS back to the original drops with new cables and bar tape. Stripped the tape off the bars on Friday night but didn't finish the job till the same time Sunday night.

msmancunia

I am putting new mudguards on my bike tonight.

Given the trauma, damage, expense and prolific swearing that occurred when I attempted to take my chain off, I'd be very grateful for any Hail Mary's tonight about half seven pleaseandthankyou.

tgotb

Mon evening: Switched from SPD to Time ATAC pedals; swapped cleats on two pairs of shoes, aligning new cleats precisely the same as old ones.
Tue morning: Ride to work, knees not feeling quite right
Tue pm: Switch pedals to "max float" mode and ride home
Tue night: Kept awake by massive knee pain (thankfully muscular). Finally got to sleep with ibuprofen
Wed am: Took the cleats off and realigned them so that the shoes sit at the same angle to the frame as they did with the SPDs (as opposed to locating the cleats at the same angle to the shoe)

veronese68

msmancunia wrote:

I am putting new mudguards on my bike tonight.

Given the trauma, damage, expense and prolific swearing that occurred when I attempted to take my chain off, I'd be very grateful for any Hail Mary's tonight about half seven pleaseandthankyou.

Sorry just got to this. You still swearing?

msmancunia

Veronese68 wrote:

msmancunia wrote:

I am putting new mudguards on my bike tonight.

Given the trauma, damage, expense and prolific swearing that occurred when I attempted to take my chain off, I'd be very grateful for any Hail Mary's tonight about half seven pleaseandthankyou.

Sorry just got to this. You still swearing?

Hmm had to work until 8pm last night (it's our AGM this weekend) and then I left them in the office :roll:

I will possibly attempt tonight.

The Rookie

Front mudguard on for winter, bought a new BB as the old one was starting to click, just after the BB arrives the old one stops clicking, fingers crossed this will be another maintenance (parts replacement rather than just lubing stuff up) free year (other than changing tyres).

itboffin

TGOTB wrote:

Mon evening: Switched from SPD to Time ATAC pedals; swapped cleats on two pairs of shoes, aligning new cleats precisely the same as old ones.
Tue morning: Ride to work, knees not feeling quite right
Tue pm: Switch pedals to "max float" mode and ride home
Tue night: Kept awake by massive knee pain (thankfully muscular). Finally got to sleep with ibuprofen
Wed am: Took the cleats off and realigned them so that the shoes sit at the same angle to the frame as they did with the SPDs (as opposed to locating the cleats at the same angle to the shoe)

how are you finding the atac compared to spds?