Silly Commuter Stats

CiB

Ok - feet it is. I opted for metres as I assumed that's what these devices give their measurements in. Not for me to worry about tbh.

I'll hold fire on the tables positions for now to see what others think.

rolf_f

Porgy wrote:

Where did you work your cimb out and I'd like to second use of feet not metres, just for consistency and becasue I'm an old git who still uses imperial. 8)

I have just been calculating my mileages using Bikely and the like. Not exactly accurate but likely an underestimate though Toaster gives much lower values. In theory, they should all underestimate true height gained so the highest should be most accurate. In theory!

Mind you, I'm mulling over more commute route variations so that might complicate future calcs.

CiB

Porgy wrote:

Stuff

...which I tend to agree with. Imperial better than metric etc. The barebones page is drawn from all stats - only the front page tables are split by last update.

Porgy

ChrisInBicester wrote:

Ok - feet it is. I opted for metres as I assumed that's what these devices give their measurements in. Not for me to worry about tbh.

I'll hold fire on the tables positions for now to see what others think.

it'll be a simple calculation to convert though - you could add the formula to the stats page - not that i'm trying to make extra work for you.

Mind you - more time on the computer = less time on the road catching me up - looks like i finally made the top ten. 8)

Porgy

ChrisInBicester wrote:

Porgy wrote:

Stuff

...which I tend to agree with. Imperial better than metric etc. The barebones page is drawn from all stats - only the front page tables are split by last update.

a very succinct summary of everything what i said.

cjcp

Wahey! He charges through the 5,000 mile barrier.

And doesn't move up the table. Pants. :?

Porgy

After some thought I agree with the Division changes - if it motivates people to regularly update then all the better - nothing more frustrating than to cycle your way up a place or two thinking you're making slow progress only for others to post up a whole month's worth of mileage in one go, knocking you back below where you were before. :evil:


Mind you - that will probably still happen though won't it?

choirboy

Only really started this month so:

name.....................year........month.......week............P*
Rich158.................3151...........876...........44.............x
gtvlusso................2465...........646.............0.............1
itboffin...................2299..........724............30...........17
bigease.................1496...........418...........60.............3
ChrisInBicester.....1002...........515............42............4
biondino..................940...........372..............0............0
lost_in_thought.......780...........353............28............0
prawny...................363...........154............59............1
Agent57..................280.............58..............6............0
R25 Flyer.................1000...........318............35...........6
choirboy..................190............190............98...........0

Hmmmm - I trail badly on the YTD but I seem to have done more miles than the rest of you last week and that was only two trip each way....[/b]

biondino

ITB, the point of the divisions is that the non-updated stats are by definiton inaccurate, and the very out of date ones just distort the reality all the more.

tailwindhome

Porgy wrote:

others to post up a whole month's worth of mileage in one go, knocking you back below where you were before. :evil:


Mind you - that will probably still happen though won't it?

When Div 2 riders posts a months worth of mileage will they jump into Div 1?

Doesn't really fix the problem IMHO just makes the site a bit untidy.

Though I do appreciate is that CIB is doing this in his own time etc etc

R_T_A

Porgy wrote:

Hey RTA - are you planning on taking a holiday soon?

At this rate I'll be in the top ten sometime around June 2010 :P

Work is getting in the way with meetings off site, so you'll be gaining on me gradually :evil:

But I did test out another 20 miler on the way home that takes in Windsor Great Park and Ascot race course, so if the weather continues as it is I may keep using it :P

Porgy

Hmmm not sure how exactly I feel about being one mile behind someone called Spasy Paddy :?

CiB

WheezyMcChubby wrote:

Porgy wrote:

others to post up a whole month's worth of mileage in one go, knocking you back below where you were before. :evil:


Mind you - that will probably still happen though won't it?

When Div 2 riders posts a months worth of mileage will they jump into Div 1?

Doesn't really fix the problem IMHO just makes the site a bit untidy.

Just to be clear, for others too who've questioned it, the split is purely on last update - if it's more than 3 weeks since your last update you drop out of the main listing. Updating your mileage brings your last update up to date so you're instantly reincarnated in the elite bunch.

The idea is to encourage those who signed up to keep adding to it. FWIW I reckon that someone who popped in once to stick up a couple of thousand miles back in June doesn't have as much right to be in the top ten as someone who's regularly adding say, 21 miles, if he's not adding to that original mileage.

The full list is still shown for completeness but as it's at the bottom of the page you have to go and find it. Human nature being what it is it's reasonable to assume that everyone would rather be up at the top rather than languishing in the second 11, so there's yer incentive - you've joined up, all you have to do now is drop in once in a while to add your miles and appear in the top grouping.

salsajake

good work, will have to remind myself of the commuting heights now to add them too. I have got a record of how many times I have ridden in (and possibly also the weather, windspeed, wind direction, perceived exertion, bke, elapsed time and how much money I saved by not taking the train - ahem. It started out for the latter so I could monitor my 'bike fund' but then I started adding more stuff at the same time!), but I will be short of all my non-commute rides as I haven't a clue where I've been and how far I climbed in the process. And I'm in the top 10 for August mileage so far - woohoo!

Porgy

ChrisInBicester wrote:

if it's more than 3 weeks since your last update you drop out of the main listing. Updating your mileage brings your last update up to date so you're instantly reincarnated in the elite bunch.

The idea is to encourage those who signed up to keep adding to it. FWIW I reckon that someone who popped in once to stick up a couple of thousand miles back in June doesn't have as much right to be in the top ten as someone who's regularly adding say, 21 miles, if he's not adding to that original mileage..

Yes - I agree - we must demand commitment from everyone. In fact I suggest we remove 100 miles for every week that they don't update!!! :evil:

Porgy

Gazzaputt has done 1450 miles today!! :shock:

I demand a recount!!! :evil:

prawny

Ooh I'm creeping towards the top 20. And no days off for me between now and the 15th September :twisted:

GraemeT

I'm off to Nurburgring next thursday

What are you taking?

You'll have an extra day commuting on me this week. I'm off to England for a couple of days on Wednesday, so I'm trying to keep up the miles this week. Was a bit thwarted by the rain last night though.

So not much more cycling this week, but on the plus side I will be able to indulge in curry, proper beer and english breakfasts

Then some miles at the weekend to work it off :!:

salsajake

GraemeT wrote:

I'm off to Nurburgring next thursday

What are you taking?

A pencil and notepad! Off to cover the Le Mans Series race there, but hopefully might get a lap on the Nordschleife with one of the drivers on the Friday or the Saturday night, they love scaring journos silly!

GraemeT

Sounds like fun. Who are you reporting for?

salsajake

Chris - I've added my height gain (and am King of the Mountains at the moment, although there are only 3 of us who have seen a hill according to the stats (and I think they might be in m, not feet), just an inconsistency - it asks for height in feet, but then the confirmation page says they have been added in metres. Just a niggle for you to fix when there is no still-tacky coloured decorating substances that you need to observe.

CiB

salsajake wrote:

Chris - I've added my height gain (and am King of the Mountains at the moment, although there are only 3 of us who have seen a hill according to the stats (and I think they might be in m, not feet), just an inconsistency - it asks for height in feet, but then the confirmation page says they have been added in metres. Just a niggle for you to fix when there is no still-tacky coloured decorating substances that you need to observe.

Fixed it - a silly one to miss. Reading back through the thread there did seem to be a clamour for height to be added. Odd that only 3 have done so.

salsajake

ChrisInBicester wrote:

salsajake wrote:

Chris - I've added my height gain (and am King of the Mountains at the moment, although there are only 3 of us who have seen a hill according to the stats (and I think they might be in m, not feet), just an inconsistency - it asks for height in feet, but then the confirmation page says they have been added in metres. Just a niggle for you to fix when there is no still-tacky coloured decorating substances that you need to observe.

Fixed it - a silly one to miss. Reading back through the thread there did seem to be a clamour for height to be added. Odd that only 3 have done so.

Give it time... Think people are working out what their commute entails from various sites/sources. My data is from memory map (highly reccomended product) and confirms its 420 m height gain on the way in, 351 on the way home, so 771m a day or 2530'. Then I've added a bit for mtb rides and non-commuting road rides, but its probably under if anything. Still, I'll enjoy the polka dots whilst it lasts!

Porgy

ChrisInBicester wrote:

salsajake wrote:

Chris - I've added my height gain (and am King of the Mountains at the moment, although there are only 3 of us who have seen a hill according to the stats (and I think they might be in m, not feet), just an inconsistency - it asks for height in feet, but then the confirmation page says they have been added in metres. Just a niggle for you to fix when there is no still-tacky coloured decorating substances that you need to observe.

Fixed it - a silly one to miss. Reading back through the thread there did seem to be a clamour for height to be added. Odd that only 3 have done so.

Haven't worked out how I'm going to do it yet - which will probably have to wait for the weekend now. It won't be a lot though.

jimmypippa

#1 in height gain (and that is a conservative estimate)

itboffin

biondino wrote:

ITB, the point of the divisions is that the non-updated stats are by definiton inaccurate, and the very out of date ones just distort the reality all the more.

mmm this is all beyond me now i'm going back to my spreadsheet

salsajake

jimmypippa wrote:

#1 in height gain (and that is a conservative estimate)

all that stands between us is this...

http://www.worldisround.com/articles/354595/photo1.html

salsajake

jimmypippa wrote:

#1 in height gain (and that is a conservative estimate)

looking at your profile, that commute must be about 250m height gain both ways (must be fun on the way home!) I guess your height is coming from non-commuting rides in the peaks too though. Then again, you have been almost twice as far as me this year, so you are probably right about it being conservative.

girv73

Are we to enter just commuting miles, or all miles?

R_T_A

As long as you're on your bike and enjoying it, put it down 8)