Silly Commuter Stats

attica

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

Clever Pun

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

you're on an actual bike actually traveling then yes it's good, going to count laps I assume?

been meaning to do a track day for ages

salsajake

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

only if you install massive fans to give you head and tailwinds, build some hills on it and insert a few traffic lights, roundabouts and a guy on a moped to cut you up now and again

will3

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

don't you have to be going somewhere?

CiB

will3 wrote:

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

don't you have to be going somewhere?

Course they count - you're on a bike, riding it to somewhere else and back again. The codicil to that rule is 'as long as it can be convincingly argued to be a proper bike ride'. Sounds proper to me. Stick em up.

Porgy

Clever Pun wrote:

yeah that 120 odd miles to get to CJ is a bit of a hurdle

Only 78.6 now. 8)

asprilla

Mother Hubbard!

Have there been some big milage dumps or new joiners this afternoon as I'm now below average again and have slopped out of the 50s again.

attica

salsajake wrote:

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

only if you install massive fans to give you head and tailwinds, build some hills on it and insert a few traffic lights, roundabouts and a guy on a moped to cut you up now and again

Will has a point but surely a tailwind would be an advantage so it's absence negates the absence of a headwind

il_principe

CiB wrote:

will3 wrote:

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

don't you have to be going somewhere?

Course they count - you're on a bike, riding it to somewhere else and back again. The codicil to that rule is 'as long as it can be convincingly argued to be a proper bike ride'. Sounds proper to me. Stick em up.

I move to include TacX iMagic turbo miles then - I mean it adds resistance and is actually hard work especially if you stick on one of the Pyrenees or Alpine DVD's...

8)

CiB

Blx to that. You ain't going anywhere with the wheel propped up on a bit of Meccano..

Next.

attica

Asprilla wrote:

Mother Hubbard!

Have there been some big milage dumps or new joiners this afternoon as I'm now below average again and have slopped out of the 50s again.

Yes, when are entries for this year closing?
It's depressing and demoralising being overtaken by someone who just pops up with 4 figures out of the blue. If we keep the entries open there's nothing to stop someone "winning" by posting all of their yearly mileage on December 31st

jimmypippa

Attica wrote:

salsajake wrote:

Attica wrote:

Question on the rules:-
"Indoor miles don't count"

Does that include velodrome miles?

only if you install massive fans to give you head and tailwinds, build some hills on it and insert a few traffic lights, roundabouts and a guy on a moped to cut you up now and again

Will has a point but surely a tailwind would be an advantage so it's absence negates the absence of a headwind

Not quite true.

If you can manage an airspeed of 30-mph (nothing about rolling resistance etc) and you travel 10 miles North in calm air and 10 miles South it would take you 2/3 of an hour. If there was a 29-mph Northerly wind, you would then manage 1-mph Northwards, and take 10 hours for the first part....

attica

Poppycock

That's aircraft navigation not cycling. Besides if you're gonna go down this route then we'd have to discount miles in a group or any form of drafting.

CiB

Attica wrote:

If we keep the entries open there's nothing to stop someone "winning" by posting all of their yearly mileage on December 31st

Except that like last year and until it's changed, it's coded to stop new entrants bursting in and stealing yours and everyone else's thunder by locking out new entrants from Dec 1st. If you're not in by the end of November, you're not in.

salsajake

Attica wrote:

Poppycock

That's aircraft navigation not cycling. Besides if you're gonna go down this route then we'd have to discount miles in a group or any form of drafting.

I still reckon that you would use less effort travelling 20 miles in no wind than you would 10 miles with a tailwind and 10 miles with a headwind

attica

Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up CiB.

Not to mention thanks for providing the stats in the first place.

nic_77

Il Principe wrote:

I move to include TacX iMagic turbo miles then - I mean it adds resistance and is actually hard work especially if you stick on one of the Pyrenees or Alpine DVD's...

8)

+1
That would easily see me into the top 10!!

barry_kellett99

My first geared road ride since November 26th 2009... and the first cycle since I cant remember when where I have had to deal with so much wind I completely didnt enjoy it and cut it short

King Donut

Attica wrote:

Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up CiB.

Not to mention thanks for providing the stats in the first place.

I brought this up last year... I'd vote for closing it earlier. Part of the fun is battling against someone day by day, month by month. Some chump turns up in November, posts backdated miles and ruins it all

But if everyone else is happy the way it is then fair enough.

CiB

I agree. Anyone up for moving the closure for new entrants back by a month or so? I reckon September would do - by the time we get to the end of the summer it should be a race to the finish. Opinions welcome.

Porgy

I second closing it in September

gert_lush

CiB wrote:

I agree. Anyone up for moving the closure for new entrants back by a month or so? I reckon September would do - by the time we get to the end of the summer it should be a race to the finish. Opinions welcome.

+1 sounds good to me

rolf_f

Or could just have it so that the main page is only those who have posted in each month as it happened - with a second page for everyone. Was a bit like that last year with the second page for those who hadn't posted in the last month.

will3

Rolf F wrote:

Or could just have it so that the main page is only those who have posted in each month as it happened - with a second page for everyone. Was a bit like that last year with the second page for those who hadn't posted in the last month.

I'd go for that.

This year the "posted in the last three weeks" think isn't quite so usefull and as we started in January, could you set some sort of filter for people who've been in it since then?

itboffin

Jash you're so ghey next you'll be wearing a d-lock holster ;-)
I'm not in favour of locking entries in sept however to keep it fair we could change the rules to say you must submit your miles for each month at the end of the month with no modifications afterwards therefore it would be obv. If some joker rolls up in nov/dec and adds 4000 miles each month.

The we should burn them

Rich158

ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute

will3

Rich158 wrote:

ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute

If you keep at it with your "training" sessions, you'll soon be there, don't worry!

Clever Pun

gert_lush wrote:

CiB wrote:

I agree. Anyone up for moving the closure for new entrants back by a month or so? I reckon September would do - by the time we get to the end of the summer it should be a race to the finish. Opinions welcome.

+1 sounds good to me

yeah cut em off

Clever Pun

itboffin wrote:

Jash you're so ghey next you'll be wearing a d-lock holster ;-)
I'm not in favour of locking entries in sept however to keep it fair we could change the rules to say you must submit your miles for each month at the end of the month with no modifications afterwards therefore it would be obv. If some joker rolls up in nov/dec and adds 4000 miles each month.

The we should burn them

I disagree.. they can wait till next year.. there's more than enough people involved already

do a stats poll if anyone other than itb disagrees??

The Running Man

I'm the least qualified to comment having only joined you guys in the summer of last year but as a matter of principle I wouldn't want to discourage or exclude anyone from posting up their numbers whatever time of year it is.

Whether or not you / we decide if they "count" towards an end of year final "award" is another matter and can be at CiB's discretion (or based on a collective decision).

In order to have this formally ratified though we may need to create a subordinate addendum to paragraph 7 in rule 32 i) subsection 127 in the SCR rules of engagement