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  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    will3 wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute :wink:

    If you keep at it with your "training" sessions, you'll soon be there, don't worry!

    I'm not worried, tbh I love a bit of competition and winding people up.

    Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes
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  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    itboffin wrote:
    Jash you're so ghey next you'll be wearing a d-lock holster ;-)
    I'm not in favour of locking entries in sept however to keep it fair we could change the rules to say you must submit your miles for each month at the end of the month with no modifications afterwards therefore it would be obv. If some joker rolls up in nov/dec and adds 4000 miles each month.

    The we should burn them :)

    As someone who eyed the stats enviously throughout the latter half of last year I like the idea of a sort of monthly sub-category so that people who haven't got a log of all of their miles for the year can join in yet be excluded from the year long "Statwar".

    Also if we do stop anyone adding to the month then surely there should be a grace period until say the 5th of the following month.
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  • holybinch
    holybinch Posts: 417
    Or you could max the amount of miles backposted per month to that month's average?
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  • The Running Man
    The Running Man Posts: 574
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:
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  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    As someone at the ass end of the table I just find it annoying that I keep dropping down places because of people jumping in ahead.

    I dropped two places overnight but there isn't anyone with a previous position higher than where I was. I assume this is is because new people that have bumped me or am I reading it wrong.
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  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching
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  • King Donut
    King Donut Posts: 498
    Attica wrote:
    As someone who eyed the stats enviously throughout the latter half of last year I like the idea of a sort of monthly sub-category so that people who haven't got a log of all of their miles for the year can join in yet be excluded from the year long "Statwar".

    Also if we do stop anyone adding to the month then surely there should be a grace period until say the 5th of the following month.

    I like this idea, but conscious of the fact that we're only paying CiB minimum wage here. Don't want him to get above his station and start thinking he's indispensable :wink:

    Therefore I'd vote for just cutting it off in September. Like CP said anyone after that can wait till next year. Would call for a poll but it's ITB's thread so it might be rigged
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Rich158 wrote:
    Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes

    Then it wouldn't really be SCommutingS. A way to deal with that is standardise the 'commute' classification. Then, Chris could set a filter that excludes the commuting bit so you can see how much non commuting people do. But that would fail to give due credit to people extending their commutes.
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  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    I'm sort of following this but having a busy day so can't contribute too much, but...

    Excluding new joiners in March etc is not a good plan. Stats is clearly encouraging more people to do more miles, and if we lock it down to a clique of only those who are already in, it stagnates. The more the merrier I say. If someone joining knocks someone else down a few places that's a slice of bad luck really, but all it means is that our newbie has ridden more miles than he or she has. That's what Stats is about.

    Despite that, locking out new joiners from October onwards suits as by that time of year it's settling down to a good fight and anyone chancing upon it by then can reasonably be expected to wait till the new year before joining in.

    I like the monthly totals idea; that sounds good. Also quite fancy the locking out of prev month's miles beyond the first few days on the current month, with perhaps some exhortation that stats should be entered as soon as possible.

    Back to it...
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    Addendum to follow up posts:

    Let's not forget, it's sub-titled 'Who's done the most miles'. That's it in my book. Winner takes all.

    @ King Donut - :lol:
  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    CiB wrote:
    I'm sort of following this but having a busy day so can't contribute too much, but...

    Excluding new joiners in March etc is not a good plan. Stats is clearly encouraging more people to do more miles, and if we lock it down to a clique of only those who are already in, it stagnates. The more the merrier I say. If someone joining knocks someone else down a few places that's a slice of bad luck really, but all it means is that our newbie has ridden more miles than he or she has. That's what Stats is about.

    Despite that, locking out new joiners from October onwards suits as by that time of year it's settling down to a good fight and anyone chancing upon it by then can reasonably be expected to wait till the new year before joining in.

    I like the monthly totals idea; that sounds good. Also quite fancy the locking out of prev month's miles beyond the first few days on the current month, with perhaps some exhortation that stats should be entered as soon as possible.

    Back to it...

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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?
  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    will3 wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?

    I think he's talking to you Jonginge :lol:
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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    will3 wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?

    well indeed, I could as I often start work lunch time, take a long route via a few laps of RP or into the downs work has bathrooms so i could change.

    but I don't want to so i potter in and back. hence my lowly 89th place.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Rich158 wrote:
    ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute :wink:

    That's funny I was just thinking the same :wink:
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    The Running Man wrote:
    I'm the least qualified to comment having only joined you guys in the summer of last year but as a matter of principle I wouldn't want to discourage or exclude anyone from posting up their numbers whatever time of year it is.

    Whether or not you / we decide if they "count" towards an end of year final "award" is another matter and can be at CiB's discretion (or based on a collective decision).

    In order to have this formally ratified though we may need to create a subordinate addendum to paragraph 7 in rule 32 i) subsection 127 in the SCR rules of engagement :):):)

    well said that man, i dunno these townies take things far too seriously.... :P

    BTW I just popped out for a quick leg spin, Burbage, Bedwyn, Albourne, Marlborough, Pewsey and back home to Burbage. :wink:
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Clever Pun wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?

    I think he's talking to you Jonginge :lol:
    :lol: Being inherently lazy stops me riding 20 miles in the morning, though ;)
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    CiB wrote:
    Excluding new joiners in March etc is not a good plan. Stats is clearly encouraging more people to do more miles, and if we lock it down to a clique of only those who are already in, it stagnates. The more the merrier I say. If someone joining knocks someone else down a few places that's a slice of bad luck really, but all it means is that our newbie has ridden more miles than he or she has. That's what Stats is about.
    ..

    Also this.

    Perhaps we could have a locked mini league containing entrants from January
  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    JonGinge wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?

    I think he's talking to you Jonginge :lol:
    :lol: Being inherently lazy stops me riding 20 miles in the morning, though ;)

    I know, but if you find a different route then hit the brain lazy button...

    the evening is more opportunity to get miles in... saying that I found a 30 miles or so course for the summer but it's got proper hills :? and I nearly got binned of by a car so not looking forward to that

    I'm well on target for my 7000 miles so I might not bother
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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    Clever Pun wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    The Running Man wrote:
    "Perhaps there could be a handicap system, the stats are unfairly skewed by those of us with longer commutes"

    That's an interesting concept : as there is an equal view that the greater distance of potential commute could be a major demotivating factor to commute at all.

    Or perhaps we could all move house to be within an exactly equidistant point from all our respective places of work irrespective of cost or family implications in order not to disturb the Stats force


    or more to the point Rich's likelihood of winning ...... :wink::wink::wink:

    Who said that???
    I've extended my commute in order to compete as I tend to be more busy at the weekends... there is nothing stopping anyone else doing the same it's all about MTFUability and not bitching

    this.

    just coz you work next to where you live doesn't stop you riding 20 miles in a morning does it?

    I think he's talking to you Jonginge :lol:
    :lol: Being inherently lazy stops me riding 20 miles in the morning, though ;)

    I know, but if you find a different route then hit the brain lazy button...

    the evening is more opportunity to get miles in... saying that I found a 30 miles or so course for the summer but it's got proper hills :? and I nearly got binned of by a car so not looking forward to that

    I'm well on target for my 7000 miles so I might not bother

    Hell no to standardised commutes, it's the only chance I get to ride. Perhaps there should be a mini-league for men so whipped they have to take the shortest route home every night to help look after the kids? :oops:

    Last year I tore up the board when I started communting everyday, this year I'm barely making the top 20 for the month and 67th ish overall. Shame on you all.
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    itboffin wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute :wink:

    That's funny I was just thinking the same :wink:

    Guess you're gonna have to if you're ever going to close that gap :mrgreen:
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Clever Pun wrote:
    I know, but if you find a different route then hit the brain lazy button...

    the evening is more opportunity to get miles in... saying that I found a 30 miles or so course for the summer but it's got proper hills :? and I nearly got binned of by a car so not looking forward to that

    I'm well on target for my 7000 miles so I might not bother
    I almost checked out Victoria Park this morning as a venue for lunchtime riding. I say almost, I thought about it and then hit the snooze button repeatedly...
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  • salsajake
    salsajake Posts: 702
    prawny wrote:
    Hell no to standardised commutes, it's the only chance I get to ride. Perhaps there should be a mini-league for men so whipped they have to take the shortest route home every night to help look after the kids? :oops:

    Too right, that's me too, though its only 1.2 miles less than the other way, but crucially avoids the "Pass" and saves about 6-10 mins I think.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    itboffin wrote:
    well said that man, i dunno these townies take things far too seriously.... :P

    BTW I just popped out for a quick leg spin, Burbage, Bedwyn, Albourne, Marlborough, Pewsey and back home to Burbage. :wink:
    Burbage eh? I used to live there but it was the proper one in Leicestershire, the one with the decent pubs.

    Anyway; having missed out on commuting all last week today was the new dawn. The lights are back in the garage; overshoes, gloves, leggings & yellow coat are back in the wardrobe and today was the first shorts & mitts commute on the new bike - read 6 months old now - without all the additional gear. Lo, it was good. Very good.

    It'll be a bit borderline getting home before dusk but there's a tailwind and the bike is flying. What can possibly go wrong...?
  • nic_77
    nic_77 Posts: 929
    JonGinge wrote:
    I almost checked out Victoria Park this morning as a venue for lunchtime riding. I say almost, I thought about it and then hit the snooze button repeatedly...
    Good decision... it gives me the opportunity to open a bit more clear water today!
    Also looking to overtake FixedWeasel and Oddjob62 and haul myself into the top 20 with a decent extended ride home :D:D
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    will3 wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    Rich158 wrote:
    ooohhhh it's close at the top, less than 1.5 miles covering the top 3 and about 100 for the top 5. I think it's time to pull out the extended commute :wink:

    That's funny I was just thinking the same :wink:

    Guess you're gonna have to if you're ever going to close that gap :mrgreen:

    You call that a gap, pah!
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  • Rich158
    Rich158 Posts: 2,348
    Just wait till Monday, I have a little jaunt planned over the weekend which may help things along a little :lol:
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  • The Running Man
    The Running Man Posts: 574
    Plenty of chances to close the gap next week as I'm away in Germany for 4 days at a trade show.

    Don't think I'll be able to persuade the guys to let me get my bike on the plane :roll:
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  • wgwarburton
    wgwarburton Posts: 1,863
    CiB wrote:
    Addendum to follow up posts:

    Let's not forget, it's sub-titled 'Who's done the most miles'. That's it in my book. Winner takes all.

    Yup. Keep it simple, I say. It's a bit galling when newbies show up, but C'est la vie... if they've done the miles they've done the miles.

    I like the ride classifications- what might be fun would be to look at the stats at the end of the year and see who's done the most "X" miles- commuting, weekend, fixed, winter etc. or who's ridden the most days, missed the fewest days, highest daily average... that sort of thing.

    Mind you- it'd probably be the same people who appear in each category!!

    Cheers,
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  • Porgy
    Porgy Posts: 4,525
    I don't think any newbies have put themselves in above me yet. 8)

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