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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    The Nodder wrote:
    That is right - the reported hearing was to decide who was liable. Now that has happened, each party will provide evidence about their losses. Whoever suffered more loss will then get from the other party 50% of the difference between the two loss figures.

    But this is a rare case where there may be an appeal (normally it’s very hard to challenge these types of cases which are so fact specific). The judge dismissed the evidence from the one witness who criticised the cyclist and found that the cyclist had acted reasonably. The judge also said that the cyclist should expect the unexpected, which is wrong as a matter of law – cyclists are only required to expect the reasonably foreseeable. Regardless of how badly or not the cyclist may have behaved (impossible to know on the facts given) it is hard to see how the judge’s ruling of 50% negligence holds up given the judge’s findings of fact.

    A combination of the online pieces in The Guardian and The Torygraph, and the reference to the cyclist "proceed[ing] when the road was not completely clear", suggests to me that he may have tried to cycle through the "throng" of pedestrians who were crossng the road, despite the lights being green, and that he should have stopped altogether or slowed down from the reported 10-15mph. Assumption on my part though, so could be wrong.

    Agree with you that cyclists having to shoulder part of the blame because they should be prepared for the "unexpected" is nonsense, and doesn't fill me with confidence given the experiences and near-misses along the segregated bike lane along Embankment.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
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  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    CJ were you out and about this evening on a black canyon, red jersey, wheelers hat at about 6ish on Putney Bridge???
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,072
    6pm can't be that's only halfway through CJ's working day
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Hahahaha! Yep, that was me. Sweating like a fugitive on the run in the jungle.

    Had a deadline to pick up the eldest, so I may also have been swearing to myself.

    What were you riding?

    Boffin -- fortunately, those days are gone for the time being.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Lol you know what It did cross my mind that it could be too early! I was on a black and red Spesh with purple bar tape.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    Lol you know what It did cross my mind that it could be too early! I was on a black and red Spesh with purple bar tape.

    Whereabouts? I honestly have no recollection :). I remember wondering if the old guy on the hybrid in front of me, earphones in, pootling along in the bike lane on the NKR on the approach to Putney Bridge, with not a care in the world, OR FOR THOSE BEHIND HIM NEEDED TO BE SOMEWHERE ASAP, was going to stop and have a chat with someone he knew BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST BL00DY TYPICAL AND APT AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.

    There was a chap in a grey top stopped at those stupid lights on the LRR. Was that you?

    I hate leaving early. Just too damn stressful :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Those people always appear when you've got somewhere to be! Sods law innit.

    First saw you at the lights on the south side of Putney Bridge, then I was right behind you at the poxy LRR lights. You beat me through the lights at Priory Lane. I wasn't in grey though red jersey and dayglo gabba gilet for me.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Christ, I have no recollection at all!
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    dayglo gabba gilet for me.
    Bl00dy hell. How did you not boil to death? Sticky out.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    hopkinb wrote:
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    dayglo gabba gilet for me.
    Bl00dy hell. How did you not boil to death? Sticky out.

    I was wearing the Le Col equivalent, the Pro Therma.

    I thought the rain would make it a bit chillier for the ride home.

    I was very, very wrong.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    I was in just a jersey and was dripping sweat off my chin onto my stem after 2km.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Wearing a Gabba or equivalent in these temps is wacko behaviour.
  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Yeah bad call on my part. Thought it would piss it down like yesterday. That's didn't happen. It is however a great way of getting rid of holiday weight.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    Yeah bad call on my part. Thought it would wee-wee it down like yesterday. That's didn't happen. It is however a great way of getting rid of holiday weight.

    /\ This.

    Makes a man of you.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    hopkinb wrote:
    I was in just a jersey and was dripping sweat off my chin onto my stem after 2km.

    Even with shorts and light top and a relaxed pace I was sticky arriving.
  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    So, witnessed just the three 'offs' this morning, bringing some hard evidence to the general, and growing, belief that it's getting rather dangerous out there in the madness of rush hour.

    First was on Queen's Ride where a girl was already on a stretcher as I passed (hope she's okay, GWS); the second was at the lights just after Col du Chutney Mary when three cyclists (three) gambled with a burnt amber (read red light), just the one of which went over the bonnet of a Range Rover pulling across traffic (legally, and perfectly within his rights); the third looked like a bike-on-bike just after we join Chelsea Embankment.

    The train looks more attractive by the day...
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    cjcp wrote:
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    Yeah bad call on my part. Thought it would wee-wee it down like yesterday. That's didn't happen. It is however a great way of getting rid of holiday weight.

    /\ This.

    Makes a man of you.

    I take it the Shreddies diet isn't working then :lol:
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    London-Red wrote:

    The train looks more attractive by the day...

    https://twitter.com/adammnjones/status/ ... bLUdCJA5nc

    :lol:
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    London-Red wrote:
    So, witnessed just the three 'offs' this morning, bringing some hard evidence to the general, and growing, belief that it's getting rather dangerous out there in the madness of rush hour.

    First was on Queen's Ride where a girl was already on a stretcher as I passed (hope she's okay, GWS); the second was at the lights just after Col du Chutney Mary when three cyclists (three) gambled with a burnt amber (read red light), just the one of which went over the bonnet of a Range Rover pulling across traffic (legally, and perfectly within his rights); the third looked like a bike-on-bike just after we join Chelsea Embankment.

    The train looks more attractive by the day...


    I left home 10 mins earlier than usual which may be why I missed the Queens Ride incident, thankfully.

    I've had 2 near offs this week - first was a car that pulled out in front of me at the top of Priory Lane as I was heading towards the park, thanks to solid disk brakes and epic two wheel drifting skillz I avoided him, and the second was a clown that was "a bit late for my train" who ran right out in front of me on the bike lane on Lower Thames St (the joker works for Nomura, so if anyone here works there I'll give you a description so you can slap him for me).
  • warreng
    warreng Posts: 535
    I'm pretty sure the SW Train strike is bringing some howling rectums out on bikes. Some shocking scenes on CS7 from Balham onwards this week. Some absolute arse on a Boris Bike took me out at Oval on Tuesday morning who I then bumped into in the canteen at lunchtime. Words were exchanged
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  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    Mattsaw wrote:
    London-Red wrote:

    The train looks more attractive by the day...

    https://twitter.com/adammnjones/status/ ... bLUdCJA5nc

    :lol:

    Alright, maybe an exaggeration 8)
  • london-red
    london-red Posts: 1,266
    Kingstonian wrote:
    London-Red wrote:
    So, witnessed just the three 'offs' this morning, bringing some hard evidence to the general, and growing, belief that it's getting rather dangerous out there in the madness of rush hour.

    First was on Queen's Ride where a girl was already on a stretcher as I passed (hope she's okay, GWS); the second was at the lights just after Col du Chutney Mary when three cyclists (three) gambled with a burnt amber (read red light), just the one of which went over the bonnet of a Range Rover pulling across traffic (legally, and perfectly within his rights); the third looked like a bike-on-bike just after we join Chelsea Embankment.

    The train looks more attractive by the day...


    I left home 10 mins earlier than usual which may be why I missed the Queens Ride incident, thankfully.

    I've had 2 near offs this week - first was a car that pulled out in front of me at the top of Priory Lane as I was heading towards the park, thanks to solid disk brakes and epic two wheel drifting skillz I avoided him, and the second was a clown that was "a bit late for my train" who ran right out in front of me on the bike lane on Lower Thames St (the joker works for Nomura, so if anyone here works there I'll give you a description so you can slap him for me).

    I was late in, so came down Queen's Ride probably around 8.20.. Looked like it must have happened at least 15-20 mins before that.

    In other news, took a PB on the CB to LB segment this am - 9 secs behind the QOM.. Marianne Vos. I'll take it. She didn't have lights or traffic or nodders to deal with :lol:
  • W1
    W1 Posts: 2,636
    WarrenG wrote:
    I'm pretty sure the SW Train strike is bringing some howling rectums out on bikes. Some shocking scenes on CS7 from Balham onwards this week. Some absolute ars* on a Boris Bike took me out at Oval on Tuesday morning who I then bumped into in the canteen at lunchtime. Words were exchanged
    That might explain it.

    Far too busy and too many near misses this morning as a result of terrible riding. One old(er) chap on some sort of racing bike carved me up and the proceeded to undertake three or four cyclists along the Embankment Wall of Wind. Also witnessed some shocking kamikaze overtaking along Lower Thames Street.

    Bring on the summer holidays.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    WarrenG wrote:
    ... some howling rectums...

    :lol::lol::lol:

    That's a tremendous description. Well done, sir.

    It's very true though; it's bedlam out there at times.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Yep, the scale of noddergeddon has shot through the roof this week. "Howling rectum" is a great description and now has a place in my vocabulary !!!
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Yep, the scale of noddergeddon has shot through the roof this week. "Howling rectum" is a great description and now has a place in my vocabulary !!!

    Indeed. But need to make sure I don't use it in front of the kids...
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    cjcp wrote:
    I thought the rain would make it a bit chillier for the ride home.

    I was very, very wrong.
    Yeah - rain tends to make it wetter.

    It's cold you want, to make it chillier. Also, sun makes it brighter, fog makes it murkier, and nighttime makes it darker.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    TGOTB wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    I thought the rain would make it a bit chillier for the ride home.

    I was very, very wrong.
    Yeah - rain tends to make it wetter.

    It's cold you want, to make it chillier. Also, sun makes it brighter, fog makes it murkier, and nighttime makes it darker.

    :lol:

    Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, but what cold rain, eh?? Eh??! Then it's wet *and* cold, see?!

    EDIT: also, at my speed, there's the effect of wind chill on wet skin. I appreciate this may not be an issue for you.***


    ***I think this is what the yoof of today refer to as "shade".
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    cjcp wrote:
    EDIT: also, at my speed, there's the effect of wind chill on wet skin. I appreciate this may not be an issue for you.***
    This is true - at my speed the wind tends to blow the water off rather than leaving it to evaporate - think Dyson hand drier vs old-skool cr*ppy one.***

    *** There's also a yoof term for this, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is...
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  • warreng
    warreng Posts: 535
    cjcp wrote:
    Kingstonian wrote:
    Yep, the scale of noddergeddon has shot through the roof this week. "Howling rectum" is a great description and now has a place in my vocabulary !!!

    Indeed. But need to make sure I don't use it in front of the kids...

    Actually, that's how I started - Mrs G wasn't keen on me swearing in front of the kids so I stuck to anatomically correct language (screaming anus, tepid phallus etc) just to wind her up. Now they're 16 & 18 and their language is f*cking awful, to be frank, it's sort of stuck and no become a competition to come up with the most vile combination just to set her off
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