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  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    rower63 wrote:

    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...

    Unusual; whereabouts on the cable did it snap i.e. at the FD, the shifter or depending on the routing, the BB/halfway along?
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  • rhodrich
    rhodrich Posts: 867
    rower63 wrote:
    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...

    Clearly too much shifting into the small ring! :P
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Rhodrich wrote:
    Clearly too much shifting into the big ring! :P
    FTFY
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    MTB-Idle wrote:
    rower63 wrote:
    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...
    Unusual; whereabouts on the cable did it snap i.e. at the FD, the shifter or depending on the routing, the BB/halfway along?
    Not sure yet, I think it's at the nipple, as the cable is still straight between the cable-stops under the frame. I'll have a look later. My feeling is there's excessive friction in the shifter.
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  • W1
    W1 Posts: 2,636
    rower63 wrote:
    MTB-Idle wrote:
    rower63 wrote:
    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...
    Unusual; whereabouts on the cable did it snap i.e. at the FD, the shifter or depending on the routing, the BB/halfway along?
    Not sure yet, I think it's at the nipple, as the cable is still straight between the cable-stops under the frame. I'll have a look later. My feeling is there's excessive friction in the shifter.
    In other news, your doppelganger (orange hat but black kit) was out and about last week, successfully trying to win twat of the day by carving through pedestrians on crossings. He is also very slow.

    EDIT - I didn't use the word fool.
  • shamrock134
    shamrock134 Posts: 714
    Cyclist busted for hitting 43mph descending Sawyers last night...

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  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    On the theme of being busted.....https://road.cc/content/news/262396-cyclist-found-partly-liable-crash-pedestrian-who-was-looking-her-mobile-phone
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    On the theme of being busted.....https://road.cc/content/news/262396-cyclist-found-partly-liable-crash-pedestrian-who-was-looking-her-mobile-phone

    That's a rather worrying judgement - partly liable for collisions caused by pedestrians stepping out in front of you without looking?

    It's a sh!tty little island sometimes, isn't it?
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  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Yep on both counts. A very very strange decision.
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    I wonder how many cyclists are in favour of presumed liability in collisions between bicycles and cars, but not in collisions between bicycles and pedestrians? Can't have it both ways...
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Smokey Bacon wrote:
    On the theme of being busted.....https://road.cc/content/news/262396-cyclist-found-partly-liable-crash-pedestrian-who-was-looking-her-mobile-phone

    That's a rather worrying judgement - partly liable for collisions caused by pedestrians stepping out in front of you without looking?

    It's a sh!tty little island sometimes, isn't it?

    My first thought was that you've got to have some nerve to sue someone when you walked out in front of them without looking.

    Second thought was that the rider has to make allowances for people walking out - we've all seen the herd mentality where people just start crossing. If you can't anticipate this and stop without hitting someone, maybe you're going too fast.

    Third thought is that I hope he has sued her to get the 50% that is her liability.
  • wolfsbane2k
    wolfsbane2k Posts: 3,056
    TGOTB wrote:
    I wonder how many cyclists are in favour of presumed liability in collisions between bicycles and cars, but not in collisions between bicycles and pedestrians? Can't have it both ways...

    But that's the point here - PL is only presumed, unless proven otherwise.

    Proven to be walking out into the middle of a live traffic lane without looking, while on a phone, is probably enough evidence to counter that presumption.

    With 3 witness's backing up that she walked out without looking, I'd say that's enough evidence.
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Wolfsbane2k wrote:
    TGOTB wrote:
    I wonder how many cyclists are in favour of presumed liability in collisions between bicycles and cars, but not in collisions between bicycles and pedestrians? Can't have it both ways...

    But that's the point here - PL is only presumed, unless proven otherwise.

    Proven to be walking out into the middle of a live traffic lane without looking, while on a phone, is probably enough evidence to counter that presumption.

    With 3 witness's backing up that she walked out without looking, I'd say that's enough evidence.
    A few years ago I was involved (as a witness) with an incident involving a pedestrian running out in front of a car. Although it seemed fairly clear that the pedestrian had run out into the street without looking, there was a lot of scrutiny on the way the car was being driven; not merely its speed in relation to the 30mph limit, but also whether its speed was appropriate for a situation where there might be an elevated risk of pedestrians stepping out without looking.

    One of the articles on the incident above describes the rider shouting, sounding a horn, swerving and braking, before hitting her at an estimated 15mph. If he had time to do all those things whilst braking, and was still doing 15mph at the point of impact, maybe the thinking was that his initial speed was a contributory factor.
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  • jds_1981
    jds_1981 Posts: 1,858
    Doesn't this make a lot of cycle lanes useless then. Reasonable to assume a pedestrian might just step into it unless fully segregated.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,152
    jds_1981 wrote:
    Doesn't this make a lot of cycle lanes useless then. Reasonable to assume a pedestrian might just step into it unless fully segregated.

    That much is obvious to anyone who uses them. And even if fully segregated.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    anonymousblackfg wrote:
    Sun is to come out by Thursday so worth, this is the official group, else drag your ar5e down however you like.

    Drinks on Thursday out in the hills, meet 6:15/30 in Richmond Park

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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Swift ride home this eve, dodged the rain too which was a pleasant bonus. Had a near miss as I reached the top of Priory Lane, an Uber driver pulled halfway across the lane right in front of me and I only just avoided t-boning his people carrier. The best bit of it was that his passengers saw the near miss unfold and were screaming at the driver, which almost certainly is what made him stop.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    edited June 2019
    Is it just here in the deepest SW that every night after 8pm for the last few weeks its be dry completely still and warmish?

    Has the day shifted by 12 hours?
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  • awavey
    awavey Posts: 2,368
    TGOTB wrote:
    One of the articles on the incident above describes the rider shouting, sounding a horn, swerving and braking, before hitting her at an estimated 15mph. If he had time to do all those things whilst braking, and was still doing 15mph at the point of impact, maybe the thinking was that his initial speed was a contributory factor.

    but then you make it sound that it would have been just as easy for the pedestrian to have carried on walking out of the way if there was that much time.

    I dont know, the one time I encountered a phone zombie on a dedicated cycle lane as it happened,crazily the pavement they should have been using was completely empty.

    I rang my bell just to alert them to my presence as I could sense they hadnt a clue I was approaching and the silly sod turned round saw me and instantly reacted by actually near jumping directly across my path, I tried to swerve and grabbed my brakes so hard I stopped in time and stayed upright but nearly flew over the handlebars and actually pulled the front brake cable straight off the brakes. if that had taken more than 2-3 seconds in real time Id have been surprised and I was fortunate I was comfortably sure no one was tailgating me so going to wipe me out from behind. so just because it sounds like theres alot going on actually theres not alot of time to cover all those actions often, and even to the last moment you are thinking to yourself they arent really doing what I think they are doing are they ?

    what I am fairly sure is do that exact same scenario in a car, and the compensation claim by the pedestrian would have been laughed out of court.
  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    rower63 wrote:
    MTB-Idle wrote:
    rower63 wrote:
    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...
    Unusual; whereabouts on the cable did it snap i.e. at the FD, the shifter or depending on the routing, the BB/halfway along?
    Not sure yet, I think it's at the nipple, as the cable is still straight between the cable-stops under the frame. I'll have a look later. My feeling is there's excessive friction in the shifter.

    Do you lubricate your nipples?
  • Gallywomack
    Gallywomack Posts: 823
    TGOTB wrote:
    One of the articles on the incident above describes the rider shouting, sounding a horn, swerving and braking, before hitting her at an estimated 15mph. If he had time to do all those things whilst braking, and was still doing 15mph at the point of impact, maybe the thinking was that his initial speed was a contributory factor.

    The report I read seemed to be saying that she was most of the way across, and then panicked and stepped back when he sounded his horn, which took her into the path of his swerve. I dunno, if that is the case that sounds pretty reckless of the cyclist, bearing in mind he had the option of shaking his head at the lemming peds and slowing right down.
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  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    Any legal eagles here?....

    “The appropriate finding is that the parties were equally responsible and I make a finding of liability at 50/50,” she added, meaning that Ms Brushett will only receive half the amount she claimed.

    Can the cyclist also sue her, and then given that its equal liability she (her insurer) would have to pay him. If his injuries were less than his the settlement amount might be less.

    And on that note... absolute twunt of a RLJ'er on CS7 this morning.. wearing black shorts and a red British Cycling jersey... presumably picked up when became a member...... Massive member indeed
  • mr_ribble
    mr_ribble Posts: 1,068
    Actually someone posted this comment on road.cc

    "He doesn’t need to counter sue, the pedestrians is now also liable for 50% of his damages too. If he turns up to the costs hearing with a medical report that says his injuries are worse than hers she’ll end up owning him money,"
  • The Nodder
    The Nodder Posts: 33
    That is right - the reported hearing was to decide who was liable. Now that has happened, each party will provide evidence about their losses. Whoever suffered more loss will then get from the other party 50% of the difference between the two loss figures.

    But this is a rare case where there may be an appeal (normally it’s very hard to challenge these types of cases which are so fact specific). The judge dismissed the evidence from the one witness who criticised the cyclist and found that the cyclist had acted reasonably. The judge also said that the cyclist should expect the unexpected, which is wrong as a matter of law – cyclists are only required to expect the reasonably foreseeable. Regardless of how badly or not the cyclist may have behaved (impossible to know on the facts given) it is hard to see how the judge’s ruling of 50% negligence holds up given the judge’s findings of fact.
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Lots of women out commuting by bike this morning it seemed.

    Also seemed to be more than usual of the young PE-shorted/flappy-t-shirted types who think they are quick, but who just get in the way, and take unneccessary risks in traffic.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    rower63 wrote:
    MTB-Idle wrote:
    rower63 wrote:
    My FD cable snapped this morning, after only 950 miles ... I replaced the previous snapped one only in April. I'm going to have to look closely at the shifter to see what's going on there...
    Unusual; whereabouts on the cable did it snap i.e. at the FD, the shifter or depending on the routing, the BB/halfway along?
    Not sure yet, I think it's at the nipple, as the cable is still straight between the cable-stops under the frame. I'll have a look later. My feeling is there's excessive friction in the shifter.
    Simple case of not tightening the cable into the FD properly, I'd just pulled it free. Normal service restored.
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Anyone know the twunt on a white single speed, always seems to wear an orange top, heads over Putney Bridge and heads along NKR and Chelsea Embankment etc, and RLJs at absolutely every opportunity? He's seriously getting on my t1ts.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Anyone know the twunt on a white single speed, always seems to wear an orange top, heads over Putney Bridge and heads along NKR and Chelsea Embankment etc, and RLJs at absolutely every opportunity? He's seriously getting on my t1ts.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,813
    itboffin wrote:
    anonymousblackfg wrote:
    Sun is to come out by Thursday so worth, this is the official group, else drag your ar5e down however you like.
    Drinks on Thursday out in the hills, meet 6:15/30 in Richmond Park
    Is there a conf call dial in number?
    Yes, but it's your round so you have to give the barman your card number before you can join in.
    Hope the weather holds up.
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  • cookeeemonster
    cookeeemonster Posts: 1,991
    Mr_Ribble wrote:
    Actually someone posted this comment on road.cc

    "He doesn’t need to counter sue, the pedestrians is now also liable for 50% of his damages too. If he turns up to the costs hearing with a medical report that says his injuries are worse than hers she’ll end up owning him money,"

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