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  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,057
    hopkinb wrote:
    Feel a cold coming on in time for Christmas, so tried to smash/sweat it out on the commute, we shall see if that works.

    Have you tried taking daily "super high dose" Vitamin C tablets of say 1000mg?
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    NitrousOxide wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Feel a cold coming on in time for Christmas, so tried to smash/sweat it out on the commute, we shall see if that works.

    Have you tried taking daily "super high dose" Vitamin C tablets of say 1000mg?

    Yep, am also doing this, though I understand you just p!ss out any excess over that which the body requires.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    hopkinb wrote:
    NitrousOxide wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Feel a cold coming on in time for Christmas, so tried to smash/sweat it out on the commute, we shall see if that works.

    Have you tried taking daily "super high dose" Vitamin C tablets of say 1000mg?

    Yep, am also doing this, though I understand you just p!ss out any excess over that which the body requires.

    Yes, so taking a mega dose is the right way to go as the amount your body needs spikes up considerably when fighting an infection etc, and anything surplus to requirements just flushes out of your system.
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    this is the same for beer consumption right?
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Kingstonian wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    NitrousOxide wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Feel a cold coming on in time for Christmas, so tried to smash/sweat it out on the commute, we shall see if that works.
    Have you tried taking daily "super high dose" Vitamin C tablets of say 1000mg?
    Yep, am also doing this, though I understand you just p!ss out any excess over that which the body requires.
    Yes, so taking a mega dose is the right way to go as the amount your body needs spikes up considerably when fighting an infection etc, and anything surplus to requirements just flushes out of your system.
    ... taking your kidneys with it :wink:
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  • ricky_h-2
    ricky_h-2 Posts: 119
    Brazil nuts (for the selenium content) are best for keeping the immune system up to speed. A handful a day in winter does the trick
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    ^^^

    That's a really good tip.
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Is there any proper evidence for any of these (double blind trials etc), or they just remedies that "everyone knows work" but for which no-one's been able to generate any clinical evidence (like Arnica for bruising)?
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  • ricky_h-2
    ricky_h-2 Posts: 119
    A quick Google of "selenium immune system" will provide you with plenty of academic research.
    I picked up on it a number of years ago when talking to folk who rowed at a high level. Apparently the only supplement recommended (to a balanced diet) was a handful of Brazil nuts in the winter as selenium intake tends to be depleted in the winter months.
    My own anecdotes are that I rarely come down with office lurgies when I stick to it
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    Ricky h wrote:
    A quick Google of "selenium immune system" will provide you with plenty of academic research.
    I did that; plenty of data supporting the contribution of selenium (and many other elements and compounds) to a working immune system, but not much to suggest that selenium deficiency is a common problem.

    As an analogy: We all know that iron is important for the production of red blood cells, but taking iron supplements isn't going to help most healthy people increase their blood's oxygen carrying capacity.
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    TGOTB wrote:
    Ricky h wrote:
    A quick Google of "selenium immune system" will provide you with plenty of academic research.
    I did that; plenty of data supporting the contribution of selenium (and many other elements and compounds) to a working immune system, but not much to suggest that selenium deficiency is a common problem.

    As an analogy: We all know that iron is important for the production of red blood cells, but taking iron supplements isn't going to help most healthy people increase their blood's oxygen carrying capacity.
    New Scientist fairly regularly has features on this, and its conclusion is that none of the received-wisdom supplements, including Vitamin C, makes any difference at all, except potentially to damage the kidneys. But there is one exception: Zinc, which has been shown to have an effect on certain viruses.
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  • smokey_bacon
    smokey_bacon Posts: 1,639
    Nice quiet ride home which is what I was after. That's it for riding this year for me and I'm happy to be going into hibernation for abit.

    Happy Christmas everyone, see you on the flip side!
  • Gallywomack
    Gallywomack Posts: 823
    Nice quick ride home which wasn't particularly what I was after, but fun all the same. Picked up a fastish roadie at Lewisham as sometimes happens. Twas all a bit congested on the run down to Catford so I hung back, then thought I'd lost him as he picked up the mother of all tows off an out-of-service bus heading back to Catford Garage. Luckily for me he got caught at the lights by Curry's which allowed me to get back on terms.

    He slowed and clipped-in/unclipped a few times on the approach to Peter Pan lights - a ruse? Or a genuine issue? I wasn't hanging around to find out - eased past, the lights went green and I gave it beans all the way up to my turn off by McDonald's, half expecting him to come past again. He wasn't seen again so I'm claiming that as a win to round off the year.

    Merry Christmas all, and a happy New Year!
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Early commute home for me - half day.

    Hate riding home in the afternoon. Leaving aside the sodding headwind which always seems to blight those commutes, the traffic seems to be made up of a lot more HGVs, flat bed trucks etc.

    Wfh today, but back in work next week.

    Clipped 8k miles for the year. Happy with that.

    Merry Christmas, all!
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Last commute in of 2018. Perfect storm of epic tailwind, lightish traffic and some SCR with a guy on a blue & white trek meant that was my quickest trip up CS7 ever, let alone this year. Low 34 mins elapsed, and 31 mins moving time. Gold pots galore, and even a cup (minor placing only) for the full Colliers Wood to North Southwark bridge segment. If only I'd known, I'd have kept the gas at full all the way in. :roll:
  • mtb-idle
    mtb-idle Posts: 2,179
    Gallywomack wrote:
    Edit: oh, a bloke who I eased past on the upslope of Waterloo bridge came huffing and puffing back past me as I was rolling down to the lights, which was quite amusing - but thinking about it, I suppose he technically has my scalp. Balls.

    Well, just think that at least that's better than him technically having your balls. Scalp!
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  • ricky_h-2
    ricky_h-2 Posts: 119
    I recall seeing some nutritional research out there showing that levels of selenium in a natural diet decline during winter months due to seasonal changes in diet and quality of produce.
    Personally I quite like Brazil nuts regardless so researching it to the nth degree isn't high on my agenda! It's the only supplement/dietary change iI make and at worst it's a tasty snack and at best it could be of some help, take it or leave it.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    rower63 wrote:
    TGOTB wrote:
    Ricky h wrote:
    A quick Google of "selenium immune system" will provide you with plenty of academic research.
    I did that; plenty of data supporting the contribution of selenium (and many other elements and compounds) to a working immune system, but not much to suggest that selenium deficiency is a common problem.

    As an analogy: We all know that iron is important for the production of red blood cells, but taking iron supplements isn't going to help most healthy people increase their blood's oxygen carrying capacity.
    New Scientist fairly regularly has features on this, and its conclusion is that none of the received-wisdom supplements, including Vitamin C, makes any difference at all, except potentially to damage the kidneys. But there is one exception: Zinc, which has been shown to have an effect on certain viruses.
    Brazil nuts are also quite radioactive...

    I mean 100g of brazil nuts is equal to about 100 BED (banana equivalent dose)!
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  • ricky_h-2
    ricky_h-2 Posts: 119
    Oh well, maybe it's the radiation then nuking my immune system !
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    The westbound fairies will be out in force tonight...
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    cjcp wrote:
    The westbound fairies will be out in force tonight...

    I'm just sticking it in the small ring and taking my time. They're welcome to sit behind me while I do 20kph. :D
  • cruff
    cruff Posts: 1,518
    Gallywomack wrote:
    Nice quick ride home which wasn't particularly what I was after, but fun all the same. Picked up a fastish roadie at Lewisham as sometimes happens. Twas all a bit congested on the run down to Catford so I hung back, then thought I'd lost him as he picked up the mother of all tows off an out-of-service bus heading back to Catford Garage. Luckily for me he got caught at the lights by Curry's which allowed me to get back on terms.

    He slowed and clipped-in/unclipped a few times on the approach to Peter Pan lights - a ruse? Or a genuine issue? I wasn't hanging around to find out - eased past, the lights went green and I gave it beans all the way up to my turn off by McDonald's, half expecting him to come past again. He wasn't seen again so I'm claiming that as a win to round off the year.

    Merry Christmas all, and a happy New Year!
    Motorpacing should be a DNF

    Few years ago I was coming in Eastbound on the Embankment - nicely warmed up after my 40km from Woking - and caught a serious looking bloke on an S-Works Venge napping - timed my sprint to perfection - peeled off the wheel of the lithe whippet in front and smashed my fat arse past him with 200m to go to Vauxhall Bridge, only to have my moment of glory snatched from me as a drafting fairy came past me tucked in behind a wagon doing 40mph. Instant DQ IMO
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  • drhaggis
    drhaggis Posts: 1,150
    hopkinb wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    The westbound fairies will be out in force tonight...

    I'm just sticking it in the small ring and taking my time. They're welcome to sit behind me while I do 20kph. :D

    This sounds pretty much what Sky do on sustained 6-8% gradients.
  • Pearcy
    Pearcy Posts: 46
    hopkinb wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    The westbound fairies will be out in force tonight...

    I'm just sticking it in the small ring and taking my time. They're welcome to sit behind me while I do 20kph. :D

    Doesn’t matter if 20kmh or 40kmh, the fairies don’t discriminate as long as they stay sheltered.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Motorpacing totally a DQ event. Outrageous behaviour.

    Gets lighter after today \o/. It's practically summer.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Pearcy wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    The westbound fairies will be out in force tonight...

    I'm just sticking it in the small ring and taking my time. They're welcome to sit behind me while I do 20kph. :D

    Doesn’t matter if 20kmh or 40kmh, the fairies don’t discriminate as long as they stay sheltered.

    Yep, no shame whatsoever.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
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  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    Cruff wrote:
    Gallywomack wrote:
    Nice quick ride home which wasn't particularly what I was after, but fun all the same. Picked up a fastish roadie at Lewisham as sometimes happens. Twas all a bit congested on the run down to Catford so I hung back, then thought I'd lost him as he picked up the mother of all tows off an out-of-service bus heading back to Catford Garage. Luckily for me he got caught at the lights by Curry's which allowed me to get back on terms.

    He slowed and clipped-in/unclipped a few times on the approach to Peter Pan lights - a ruse? Or a genuine issue? I wasn't hanging around to find out - eased past, the lights went green and I gave it beans all the way up to my turn off by McDonald's, half expecting him to come past again. He wasn't seen again so I'm claiming that as a win to round off the year.

    Merry Christmas all, and a happy New Year!
    Motorpacing should be a DNF

    Few years ago I was coming in Eastbound on the Embankment - nicely warmed up after my 40km from Woking - and caught a serious looking bloke on an S-Works Venge napping - timed my sprint to perfection - peeled off the wheel of the lithe whippet in front and smashed my fat ars* past him with 200m to go to Vauxhall Bridge, only to have my moment of glory snatched from me as a drafting fairy came past me tucked in behind a wagon doing 40mph. Instant DQ IMO


    Absolute red card for motorpacing.
  • Gallywomack
    Gallywomack Posts: 823
    I find it very worrying seeing people riding so close behind large vehicles traveling at speed, but that consideration aside, I have to admit it was a very successful bit of bus-drafting. He latched on as the bus was pulling away from lights and rode the draft a good three-quarters of a mile up the road, opening up a several hundred metre gap on me. That was his one chance though, when the red light got me back on terms I could see the effort of keeping up with the bus had taken it out of him even with the draft - and when I made my attack, it was game over. Well, either that or he turned off...
    Pompino
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Stayed in the small ring all the way home. Big bag with a weeks clothes plus laptop, a hiplock, and that cross headwind meant a severe case of cba. Left early enough so no fairies.

    Happy Christmas all.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Clear roads this morning, so nice. Very few cyclists, too. Bliss.

    Sub-50 minute commute for the first time, I think.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
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