The whatever footie that's going on (with actual fans) thread

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465

    #dadjokes

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593

    Works even better if you can imagine them singing it due to the way they pronounce more/mower. 🤣

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593

    Manchester City


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  • Have you had to walk 500 miles?

    Were you advised to walk 500 more?

    You could be entitled to compensation:

    Call the Pro Claimers now.

    (Coat, & cap, already in hand)

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619

    I really don't know why anybody thinks Manchester City are in crisis, they've merely been restored to pre-oil settings.

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,953
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,299

    Has all gone quiet, wot wiv the Chel$$ea tractor boys doing so well...

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619
    edited December 2024

    They're still doing better than Man U. Amorim is doing an exceptional job for us.

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  • wakemalcolm
    wakemalcolm Posts: 962
    edited December 2024

    Wazzah's now available to continue their progression.

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593

    Hopefully Rooney will now realise that he is not managerial material, or clubs will have taken note at least.

    Any club taking him on now is showing their lack of judgement.

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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,782
    Pinno, מלך אידיוט וחרא מכונאי
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593

    True. How many levels of confirmation are required on the footie merry-go-round?

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  • seanoconn
    seanoconn Posts: 11,782

    Some clubs are attracted to the glamour of a celebrity manager and not credentials 🤷‍♂️

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  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,844

    I would have thought just looking at him and listening to him should have been sufficient

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465

    You are just being Scousist.


  • I don't think he ever will, I guess part of the makeup of someone like Rooney who has been very successful in one field is that you can replicate it in another. Even when it is proven that you can't, the ego kicks and you remain convinced you are capable.

    As has been said, there will usually be another club prepared to take him on for the PR boost.

  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,299

    PR boost? Birmingham style? Ditch your current manager when you are 6th in favour of Wazza, 3 months later you are 20th... serious boost that.

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619

    Yea, Nistelhorse is doing well isn't he? Oh and Gary Neville at Valencia was a giggle. Lampard did great at Chelski...

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  • It does get them column inches though, whether we like it or not (and I do not!). These owners love it, that's why the likes of Rooney/Lampard/Gerrard keep getting jobs. The owners don't seem to actually care that they put the clubs in an even worse league position.

  • wakemalcolm
    wakemalcolm Posts: 962

    Dean Windass: he's the first case I'm aware of younger than me.

    How long are the authorities going let this go on. Are they looking to rely on plausible deniability indefinitely or are they scared that if they ban heading that'll be seen as an opportunity for a class action to take them to the cleaners?

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,593
    edited January 10

    I'll need some background for that to make sense. Never mind, found it.

    Said it before, football is heading towards a non-contact tippy tappy version.

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465

    It isn't this simple. In the general population, EOD runs at about 100 per 100000 in the 30-65 age range, and about 270 per 100000 at 50-59.

    Basically, if you took a snapshot of league 1 from 2009 when he retired, which probably had you'd expect at least 3-5 cases I think.

    Footballers probably lower their risk in some ways, so the prevalence is possibly lower in the pro footballer group. This makes it hard to show causality.

    The risk is cumulative, and exacerbated by a stoic "play on" attitude, which is still common. So risks can be motivated possibly to an acceptable essentially undetectable level by reducing heading in practiceand at younger ages, and by taking concussion seriously.

    I imagine a vast amount of academic work is ongoing to study this.

  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619

    "Posting on X, Windass said he was okay and joked he "was delighted to find out I had a brain"."

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619

    Published on the 9th December 2024 by the University of Glasgow:

    Overall, the study team found that the rates of these general health and lifestyle dementia risk factors were typically similar – or lower – among former players, compared to their counterparts. Moreover, the contribution of these factors to dementia outcomes was notably lower in former players than in the general population.

    https://www.gla.ac.uk/news/headline_1132176_en.html#:~:text=This%20latest%20study%20builds%20on,of%20death%20from%20neurodegenerative%20disease.

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  • wakemalcolm
    wakemalcolm Posts: 962

    Published in the BMJ:

    Yes, there's undoubtedly a lot more research than a few punters on a cycling forum hoying up links.

    The fact that it's been recognised that kids are to be restricted in how much they're coached to bang their heads against a hard object is the right thing to do but it's naive to think that kids won't just practice a skill that gives a player a competitive advantage outside of formal training. They're just driving heading underground.

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  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,619

    Contrary study conclusions ^.

    Kids have softer skulls.

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,465


    I think it's more about ongoing brain development.

    But the issue is cumulative damage, right? So if you should be able to gauge the effect on the normal person by the effect measured on a cohort that does something for a living. I think the reasoning is that if you suppress "bad" heading in the young, who will never go on to do it often enough in adulthood to cause a problem, and teach it correctly in the group that will, the risks are reduced. Those risks are also weighed against benefits of doing the activity in the first place, just like cycling and prostate issues.

    Rugby seems to have a potentially more fundamental problem, because the game is designed around intentional "car crash" level events.